| Religion. Is it time? 09:55 - Oct 11 with 3512 views | onehunglow |
For a debate
Not sure if it’s appropriate as I don’t want any discussion to reflect badly for the sad.
It’s a contentious subject alright .
I will start off .
Why do people believe what they do and eshew the teachings of others
Ergo,why believe Baptist theology but not Mormon
Why JH and not Methodist
What is it exactly that binds |  |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 09:02 - Oct 13 with 724 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 23:53 - Oct 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
They should all get together and work through their differences but that would be an ecumenical matter. |
They can’t .
It’s all about the differences
They need others to be “ wrong” | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 15:37 - Oct 13 with 659 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Religion. Is it time? on 09:02 - Oct 13 by onehunglow |
They can’t .
It’s all about the differences
They need others to be “ wrong” |
Just like this forum  | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 15:38 - Oct 13 with 657 views | onehunglow |
You’re not wrong there | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 15:49 - Oct 13 with 645 views | Plankton |
All unproven sky fairies.
And yet, there they go, bomp, down on their knees four times a day believing in some bloke from the desert a billion years ago, going without food for months in a year.
We are about to colonize Mars and these idiots are still believing in this crap. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 15:50 - Oct 13 with 644 views | Plankton |
I mean, Noah's Ark alone should be enough. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:01 - Oct 13 with 612 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 15:49 - Oct 13 by Plankton |
All unproven sky fairies.
And yet, there they go, bomp, down on their knees four times a day believing in some bloke from the desert a billion years ago, going without food for months in a year.
We are about to colonize Mars and these idiots are still believing in this crap. |
But they believe in it totally,some so much so,they will kill to protect the religion and to punish non believers
It’s no fairy story form any | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 17:32 - Oct 13 with 584 views | Plankton |
Yep, absolute idiots throwing any semblance of common sense out of the window all for the sake of a phantom talked about by some bloke in flip flops from thousands of years ago | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:43 - Oct 13 with 558 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:32 - Oct 13 by Plankton |
Yep, absolute idiots throwing any semblance of common sense out of the window all for the sake of a phantom talked about by some bloke in flip flops from thousands of years ago |
Don’t forget the different strains of Islam,based purely on HOW Gods word was handed down.
Get it wrong in the wrong country and you’re toast | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 17:50 - Oct 13 with 550 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:32 - Oct 13 by Plankton |
Yep, absolute idiots throwing any semblance of common sense out of the window all for the sake of a phantom talked about by some bloke in flip flops from thousands of years ago |
Jesus didn’t wear flip flops, he famously went bare footed. Although being a carpenter he probably should have knocked up some clogs. |  |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 18:23 - Oct 14 with 460 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:50 - Oct 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Jesus didn’t wear flip flops, he famously went bare footed. Although being a carpenter he probably should have knocked up some clogs. |
He had some Crocs from his walking on water days, but that's a different story altogether. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 18:27 - Oct 14 with 458 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Religion. Is it time? on 18:23 - Oct 14 by SullutaCreturned |
He had some Crocs from his walking on water days, but that's a different story altogether. |
I wonder if he would have still been resurrected and saved our sins if there was a plot twist and he was torn apart by crocodiles on the river Nile? | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 20:43 - Oct 16 with 355 views | sons_of_omri |
| Religion. Is it time? on 09:26 - Oct 12 by SullutaCreturned |
No, my gran was a chapel going saint, a more lovely woman you'd never hooe to meet. Despite her generation she was very fair minded, not a racist bone in her and she treated everybody as she'd like to be treated herslef, even when they didn't deserve it. Most of the church goers I have known tho, have been hypocrites.
The "true church" eh, which one do you believe that is? Christianity didn't even exist until the 1st century CE. Judaism is the oldet monotheistic faith and of the Abrahamic faiths is th one with the claim to be "true"
Christianity is an invention, where was it whenShangdi and Itzamna, Nun and Shiva or Anu were being worshipped? And on the first day "God" didn't even exist in the minds of men, or women and not until thousands of years later did Christianity appear.
It's nonsense. Odin and Thor have as much legitimacy as the Christian God. |
“Christianity didn’t even exist until 1st century” - no sh*t! Christ was crucified in 33 AD you’re on the money there. It couldn’t have existed before so I don’t know what point you’re making there.
The true church is the one that maintains the faith of the Apostles - Orthodox Christianity.
Even better than your first observation is that Christianity is merely an invention. Can you give me any proof or basis to your statement? Even though the Son was revealed several times in the Old Testament to Abraham,Moses ,Daniel and Isaiah to name a few as well as the messianic prophecies - maybe you don’t really understand the Old Testament? To understand the NT you have to understand the OT.
“Odin and Thor have as much legitimacy as the Christian God”. Are you sugggesting the Christian God is not the same as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
I avoided saying the Jewish god because Judaism in its modern guise is definitely not the faith of the Patriarchs - more a modern invention fabricated to oppose Christianity | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 20:46 - Oct 16 with 355 views | sons_of_omri |
Well many people who witnessed his ministry , death and resurrection were executed in a variety of gruesome ways because they wouldn’t deny what they saw. I’d take their word over yours - no offence. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 20:49 - Oct 16 with 349 views | sons_of_omri |
| Religion. Is it time? on 15:49 - Oct 13 by Plankton |
All unproven sky fairies.
And yet, there they go, bomp, down on their knees four times a day believing in some bloke from the desert a billion years ago, going without food for months in a year.
We are about to colonize Mars and these idiots are still believing in this crap. |
We’re about to colonize Mars yet NASA says we can’t return to the moon as they’ve “lost the technology “.
Some people really do believe in anything , you are the epitome of that, plankton 🤣 | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 20:52 - Oct 16 with 348 views | sons_of_omri |
| Religion. Is it time? on 17:01 - Oct 13 by onehunglow |
But they believe in it totally,some so much so,they will kill to protect the religion and to punish non believers
It’s no fairy story form any |
The Chinese government has officially labelled Islam as a mental illness. Long overdue - no western government would dare do the same | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 21:07 - Oct 16 with 334 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Religion. Is it time? on 20:43 - Oct 16 by sons_of_omri |
“Christianity didn’t even exist until 1st century” - no sh*t! Christ was crucified in 33 AD you’re on the money there. It couldn’t have existed before so I don’t know what point you’re making there.
The true church is the one that maintains the faith of the Apostles - Orthodox Christianity.
Even better than your first observation is that Christianity is merely an invention. Can you give me any proof or basis to your statement? Even though the Son was revealed several times in the Old Testament to Abraham,Moses ,Daniel and Isaiah to name a few as well as the messianic prophecies - maybe you don’t really understand the Old Testament? To understand the NT you have to understand the OT.
“Odin and Thor have as much legitimacy as the Christian God”. Are you sugggesting the Christian God is not the same as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
I avoided saying the Jewish god because Judaism in its modern guise is definitely not the faith of the Patriarchs - more a modern invention fabricated to oppose Christianity |
Ok then, by your own admission the Christian faith didn't exist, god didn't exist to any human, so how did this god who didn't exist create the world that was here for thousand of years before he was invented?
The OT and the NT are books written by men, men who invented and spread the word of the new god. What are they going to do, come out and admit the god they are pushing is actually a scam?
I am suggesting nothing like that, I am saying that religion is a made up thing to help maintain control of the masses. When I said "have as much legitimacy" what I meant is they are equal in the BS department. None of them existed except in the minds of the ignorant, uneducated and downtrodden.
Scholars aren't even sure that Moses existed. The Torah was finalised during the Babylonian exile...well probably which is sometime around the 6th or 5th century BCE. The Torah is still the book of the Jews. What evidence do you have that modern Judaism is the invention you claim? | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 03:23 - Oct 17 with 278 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Religion. Is it time? on 20:46 - Oct 16 by sons_of_omri |
Well many people who witnessed his ministry , death and resurrection were executed in a variety of gruesome ways because they wouldn’t deny what they saw. I’d take their word over yours - no offence. |
Folie a deux. | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 06:09 - Oct 17 with 271 views | sons_of_omri |
| Religion. Is it time? on 21:07 - Oct 16 by SullutaCreturned |
Ok then, by your own admission the Christian faith didn't exist, god didn't exist to any human, so how did this god who didn't exist create the world that was here for thousand of years before he was invented?
The OT and the NT are books written by men, men who invented and spread the word of the new god. What are they going to do, come out and admit the god they are pushing is actually a scam?
I am suggesting nothing like that, I am saying that religion is a made up thing to help maintain control of the masses. When I said "have as much legitimacy" what I meant is they are equal in the BS department. None of them existed except in the minds of the ignorant, uneducated and downtrodden.
Scholars aren't even sure that Moses existed. The Torah was finalised during the Babylonian exile...well probably which is sometime around the 6th or 5th century BCE. The Torah is still the book of the Jews. What evidence do you have that modern Judaism is the invention you claim? |
For a start you misrepresent me - I was quoting you. Of course God existed , he was ever present before creation. Christianity didn’t begin until Christ’s time of course but to it is not an alien religion compared to what it superseded.
Christian was the name first attributed to the Apostles and followers of Christ in Antioch in the first century . It was the continuation of the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob which Christ came to affirm but he came also to negate the oral laws of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s (Talmud) which in the Gospels he rails against. The Talmud first came into being during the exile and its tenets fundamentally alter the laws or create new ones which came from rhe influence of the Babylonian culture which they had to coexist.
Orthodox Christianity to this days upholds this tradition - the services are the continuation of Temple Liturgical worship (with iconography, incense , menorahs on the altar etc ) but the sacrifice is not a goat/bull or whatever but the offering is bread and wine.
I like the way that you see it as a system of control - control as in “don’t kill each other” , “don’t sleep with someone else’s spouse” “don’t steal” - you obviously mean something else - can you elucidate that for me? I would have thought the command to “love one another “ wouldn’t be seen as some nefarious and negative control system!
Also you go on to claim the the God of the OT and NT is new and somehow invented but bang on about the integrity of “Judaism” - (that term is actually younger than Christianity by a good century or so and refers completely to the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah which is false as is Kabbalah). The modern day (from the period after the first centuries of Christianity) faith of Judaism even changed the translation of the Septuagint to EXCLUDE messianic texts that were attributed to the coming of the messiah in the foretold time (the period before the destruction of the second temple ) and in its stead the Jewish mystics have announced more than one messiah (Shabbatai Zevi being one in the 1600’s) and Jews to this day need to rebuild the temple to usher in the one they regard as Mossiach but which the book of Revelation describes as Antichrist. And when you look at the Middle East today you can see they’re trying to do exactly that - there’s even film on you tube of Rabbi Schnerson (chabad founder) telling a younger Netanyahu to “do more to hasten his coming”. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 06:13 - Oct 17 with 270 views | sons_of_omri |
Or maybe they know something you don’t? Or are you all knowing? You sound like you are so maybe you do know best. | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 06:16 - Oct 17 with 270 views | sons_of_omri |
| Religion. Is it time? on 12:15 - Oct 12 by onehunglow |
Some suppositions there butty Bach
Not all church goers ,but the majority .
My opinion |
You definitely suffer from misery. That’s not a supposition that’s an observation. We must always have hope otherwise what’s the point? Release the inner optimist ! | | | |
| Religion. Is it time? on 08:52 - Oct 17 with 256 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 06:16 - Oct 17 by sons_of_omri |
You definitely suffer from misery. That’s not a supposition that’s an observation. We must always have hope otherwise what’s the point? Release the inner optimist ! |
Well,I’m in good company then as Jesus suffered . | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 08:59 - Oct 17 with 254 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Religion. Is it time? on 06:09 - Oct 17 by sons_of_omri |
For a start you misrepresent me - I was quoting you. Of course God existed , he was ever present before creation. Christianity didn’t begin until Christ’s time of course but to it is not an alien religion compared to what it superseded.
Christian was the name first attributed to the Apostles and followers of Christ in Antioch in the first century . It was the continuation of the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob which Christ came to affirm but he came also to negate the oral laws of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s (Talmud) which in the Gospels he rails against. The Talmud first came into being during the exile and its tenets fundamentally alter the laws or create new ones which came from rhe influence of the Babylonian culture which they had to coexist.
Orthodox Christianity to this days upholds this tradition - the services are the continuation of Temple Liturgical worship (with iconography, incense , menorahs on the altar etc ) but the sacrifice is not a goat/bull or whatever but the offering is bread and wine.
I like the way that you see it as a system of control - control as in “don’t kill each other” , “don’t sleep with someone else’s spouse” “don’t steal” - you obviously mean something else - can you elucidate that for me? I would have thought the command to “love one another “ wouldn’t be seen as some nefarious and negative control system!
Also you go on to claim the the God of the OT and NT is new and somehow invented but bang on about the integrity of “Judaism” - (that term is actually younger than Christianity by a good century or so and refers completely to the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah which is false as is Kabbalah). The modern day (from the period after the first centuries of Christianity) faith of Judaism even changed the translation of the Septuagint to EXCLUDE messianic texts that were attributed to the coming of the messiah in the foretold time (the period before the destruction of the second temple ) and in its stead the Jewish mystics have announced more than one messiah (Shabbatai Zevi being one in the 1600’s) and Jews to this day need to rebuild the temple to usher in the one they regard as Mossiach but which the book of Revelation describes as Antichrist. And when you look at the Middle East today you can see they’re trying to do exactly that - there’s even film on you tube of Rabbi Schnerson (chabad founder) telling a younger Netanyahu to “do more to hasten his coming”. |
Blimey, if that's what religion does to.you, I'm out. |  |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 09:25 - Oct 17 with 235 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 08:59 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Blimey, if that's what religion does to.you, I'm out. |
I started to read that and my eyelids froze
It’s a long time since I read material like that .
Chaq un a son gout | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 09:51 - Oct 17 with 219 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Religion. Is it time? on 06:13 - Oct 17 by sons_of_omri |
Or maybe they know something you don’t? Or are you all knowing? You sound like you are so maybe you do know best. |
Perhaps they got it wrong? Perhaps Jesus didn’t rise from the dead, perhaps he was still alive when they took him off the cross? Even the bible states that Pontius Pilate was in shock that he died so soon. crucifixion usually lasted a couple of days but Jesus snuffed it just after afternoon tea just before tipping point came on the telly. | |
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| Religion. Is it time? on 10:11 - Oct 17 with 208 views | onehunglow |
| Religion. Is it time? on 09:51 - Oct 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Perhaps they got it wrong? Perhaps Jesus didn’t rise from the dead, perhaps he was still alive when they took him off the cross? Even the bible states that Pontius Pilate was in shock that he died so soon. crucifixion usually lasted a couple of days but Jesus snuffed it just after afternoon tea just before tipping point came on the telly. |
“ afternoon tea”
You’re either pretentious or seriously posh
Ych a fi  | |
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