| Chagos Islands 22:42 - Oct 3 with 4939 views | Kilkennyjack |
Great news.
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| Chagos Islands on 13:56 - Oct 11 with 807 views | onehunglow |
| Chagos Islands on 13:45 - Oct 11 by AnotherJohn |
Yes, but the discussion was about similarities and differences between the UK's approach to the two overseas territories, and whether the populations want British protection. I suppose one could say that a point of similarity in both cases was that a situation where moving to live in the UK was very difficult changed to one where it is a near certainty for those who want to make the move. |
Falklanders want to remain British
Ukraine wantbto remain Ukrainians .
Simple really |  |
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| Chagos Islands on 11:25 - Oct 12 with 719 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Chagos Islands on 10:20 - Oct 11 by controversial_jack |
It was amended after the conflict. but prior to that, Maggie couldn't have given a toss about the islanders. Many Brits didn't even know where the Falklands was |
Is that why British troops were stationed on the Falklands before the conflict?
Fact Argentina is an ex colony of Spain and is largely inhabited by people of Spanish decent. The indigenous population of Argentina were virtually wiped out.
Fact the Falklands had no indigenous population the were uninhabited. The Falklands were never a Spanish colony.
On that basis, the UN decided, that neither Spain or Argentina had any territorial rights to the Falkland Islands.
Unlike Ukraine which the UN considers an independent country which is illegally being invaded by Russia. | |
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| Chagos Islands on 13:19 - Oct 12 with 700 views | controversial_jack |
| Chagos Islands on 11:25 - Oct 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Is that why British troops were stationed on the Falklands before the conflict?
Fact Argentina is an ex colony of Spain and is largely inhabited by people of Spanish decent. The indigenous population of Argentina were virtually wiped out.
Fact the Falklands had no indigenous population the were uninhabited. The Falklands were never a Spanish colony.
On that basis, the UN decided, that neither Spain or Argentina had any territorial rights to the Falkland Islands.
Unlike Ukraine which the UN considers an independent country which is illegally being invaded by Russia. |
Thatcher passed the act a year before the conflict. Fact!
I never stated the Falklands was Spanish or belonged to Argentina.
The Ukraine has not been invaded. There is a conflict in the Donbass and the reasons are many, much of which is above your understanding | | | |
| Chagos Islands on 17:01 - Oct 12 with 682 views | DJack |
| Chagos Islands on 13:19 - Oct 12 by controversial_jack |
Thatcher passed the act a year before the conflict. Fact!
I never stated the Falklands was Spanish or belonged to Argentina.
The Ukraine has not been invaded. There is a conflict in the Donbass and the reasons are many, much of which is above your understanding |
And above your understanding is that Russia exported hardliners and GRU staff to the Donbass to create the conflict in the first place. The problems in the Donbass are of Russia's making for their geopolitical gain and their Oligarch's financial gain. |  |
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| Chagos Islands on 09:37 - Oct 13 with 641 views | controversial_jack |
| Chagos Islands on 17:01 - Oct 12 by DJack |
And above your understanding is that Russia exported hardliners and GRU staff to the Donbass to create the conflict in the first place. The problems in the Donbass are of Russia's making for their geopolitical gain and their Oligarch's financial gain. |
No that was the US who replaced the legit pro Russian govt with an anti Russian puppet. Victoria Nuland has gone on record saying as such | | | |
| Chagos Islands on 16:12 - Jan 8 with 407 views | AnotherJohn |
| Chagos Islands on 09:37 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack |
No that was the US who replaced the legit pro Russian govt with an anti Russian puppet. Victoria Nuland has gone on record saying as such |
It has emerged that our hair-brained government is offering to pay Mauritius £99 million a year for 99 years to take the Chagos islands off our hands, and is even prepared to sweeten this deal with a big dollop up front in order to get the deal over the line before Trump's inauguration.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/eye-watering-cost-of-keir-starmer-s-disast [Post edited 8 Jan 16:31]
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| Chagos Islands on 16:50 - Jan 8 with 375 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What on earth are we getting out of this wonderful deal? |  |
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| Chagos Islands on 19:13 - Jan 8 with 324 views | Flashberryjack |
| Chagos Islands on 16:50 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What on earth are we getting out of this wonderful deal? |
Utter madness. |  |
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| Chagos Islands on 19:19 - Jan 8 with 316 views | Gwyn737 |
| Chagos Islands on 16:50 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What on earth are we getting out of this wonderful deal? |
99 years use of the airbase there.
I’ve no idea if that’s good value or not. | | | |
| Chagos Islands on 19:32 - Jan 8 with 303 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Chagos Islands on 16:50 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What on earth are we getting out of this wonderful deal? |
Another saving when Wales goes Indy …. | |
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| Chagos Islands on 23:36 - Jan 8 with 246 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Chagos Islands on 19:19 - Jan 8 by Gwyn737 |
99 years use of the airbase there.
I’ve no idea if that’s good value or not. |
But we’ve got that already and don’t have to pay £99 million a year. Why would we choose to give the islands away and then pay for the privilege? | |
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| Chagos Islands on 00:00 - Jan 9 with 232 views | majorraglan |
| Chagos Islands on 23:36 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
But we’ve got that already and don’t have to pay £99 million a year. Why would we choose to give the islands away and then pay for the privilege? |
Maybe it’s because we’re breaking international law and they want to ensure we comply with what’s expected of us.
I’m not sure how far down the road this agreement was when Labour came to power, but the Conservatives under PM Truss’s stewardship started the talks. Foreign Secretary Cleverly gave a written statement confirming this and stating a desire to complete the deal in early 2023.
Cleverly then condemned Starmer for handing over the Chagos Islands despite the fact he got the ball rolling. It’s mental, more front than Aberavon beach. | | | |
| Chagos Islands on 00:30 - Jan 9 with 215 views | Robbie |
Trump wants to take over Greenland now . a Country Governed by Denmark and also a NATO member . The Don has no interest in that link , Uncle Sam will take it soon .
He also wants The Panama Canal to come under USA control , Panama own the rights to that route and use it efficientlly for all shipping under their direction in them waters .
He has annoyed Canada by saying they should be part of the USA too .
Mexico will be a real hot potato for him to challenge , he probably will have a go .
Our soon to be our numbers inflated WAG Politicians sitting comfortably in Cardiff Bay is a joke , just who wanted another tier of nonsense .
Trump makes the Senedd look like a small Sunday School outing . [Post edited 9 Jan 0:33]
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| Chagos Islands on 05:31 - Jan 9 with 186 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Chagos Islands on 00:30 - Jan 9 by Robbie |
Trump wants to take over Greenland now . a Country Governed by Denmark and also a NATO member . The Don has no interest in that link , Uncle Sam will take it soon .
He also wants The Panama Canal to come under USA control , Panama own the rights to that route and use it efficientlly for all shipping under their direction in them waters .
He has annoyed Canada by saying they should be part of the USA too .
Mexico will be a real hot potato for him to challenge , he probably will have a go .
Our soon to be our numbers inflated WAG Politicians sitting comfortably in Cardiff Bay is a joke , just who wanted another tier of nonsense .
Trump makes the Senedd look like a small Sunday School outing . [Post edited 9 Jan 0:33]
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Two entirely unrelated matters.
Grandad Crazy Pants has already rowed back on deporting illegals, reducing grocery costs, and ending the Ukraine War in 24 hours before he takes office. Yes he was talking guff.
There is zero chance the US will invade Greenland or Canada.
An economic war is the most likely using tariffs. Both sides will lose.
Troops in Panama is something he might do.
These are both global politics on brand for Trumper.
Its a distraction.
Our Senedd plays no role in any of the above, you may as well reference Town Tyres or Lidl’s in Morriston ….? | |
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| Chagos Islands on 10:24 - Jan 9 with 121 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Chagos Islands on 00:00 - Jan 9 by majorraglan |
Maybe it’s because we’re breaking international law and they want to ensure we comply with what’s expected of us.
I’m not sure how far down the road this agreement was when Labour came to power, but the Conservatives under PM Truss’s stewardship started the talks. Foreign Secretary Cleverly gave a written statement confirming this and stating a desire to complete the deal in early 2023.
Cleverly then condemned Starmer for handing over the Chagos Islands despite the fact he got the ball rolling. It’s mental, more front than Aberavon beach. |
International law isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. What right do some faceless, nameless activists in some think tank belonging to the UN have to decide on such matters such as sovereignty over some uninhabited islands that have been British since the fall of Napoleon? And why the hell should we comply?
At a time where the country is supposedly strapped for cash and the burden is being heaped on the taxpayer to a level barely seen since the time of King John we shouldn’t be choosing to spunk away another £100 million a year for something we currently get for nothing. | |
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| Chagos Islands on 14:00 - Jan 9 with 84 views | Flashberryjack |
| Chagos Islands on 10:24 - Jan 9 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
International law isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. What right do some faceless, nameless activists in some think tank belonging to the UN have to decide on such matters such as sovereignty over some uninhabited islands that have been British since the fall of Napoleon? And why the hell should we comply?
At a time where the country is supposedly strapped for cash and the burden is being heaped on the taxpayer to a level barely seen since the time of King John we shouldn’t be choosing to spunk away another £100 million a year for something we currently get for nothing. |
Absolutely spot on mate. | |
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| Chagos Islands on 14:08 - Jan 9 with 78 views | AnotherJohn |
There is a tendency to talk about international law as if it is a coherent corpus of rules coming from an authoritative source about which all countries agree, Of course, that is not the case. It is a mish-mash of treaty obligations, rulings by various courts, and case law. Not all countries have signed up to particular treaties or recognise particular courts. The one that ruled in this case has no power to impose sanctions or enforce its judgements, which are advisory. Many will think the ruling that the islands belong to far away Mauritius is itself irrational, and takes no account of how Mauritius has treated exiled Chagossians or of the wishes of those Chagossians. | | | |
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