| Tory leadership 09:49 - Sep 29 with 3506 views | onehunglow |
Ok,so who impresses more
Badenoch just been on and impressed me ,anyway
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| Tory leadership on 10:33 - Sep 29 with 2495 views | Whiterockin |
Why so long to elect a leader. Postal vote for all party members. Job done in three weeks. |  | | |
| Tory leadership on 12:02 - Sep 29 with 2443 views | SullutaCreturned |
If a white person had said what Kemi said they'd be under police investigation for racism and I'll be surprised if there isn't a backlash anyway.
I can't say any of them inpresses me. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 12:36 - Sep 29 with 2434 views | Gwyn737 |
I don’t think she’s the right person to revive the Tory party atm.
As things stand, it’s Lib Dem voters they need to woo, not Reform ones. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 13:02 - Sep 29 with 2426 views | union_jack |
None of them but as it’s got to be one of them I’ll go forTugenhadt. |  |
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| Tory leadership on 14:11 - Sep 29 with 2383 views | Wingstandwood |
So here we find the Tories coming out with the same old promises, the same time-worn hot air and same future intent that now means ABSOLUTELY nothing, because of what has gone on before,
A case of “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me” but in this instance it was many more times than just being fooled once.
It was election victory, after election victory, after election victory!!!! And to do the complete and utter opposite of what they actually promised!!!!
And thus the trust has been broken, because if they couldn’t fix the English NHS or insane U.K immigration numbers (both illegal and legal) when in power? How come it’s only now that they are champing at the bit to do so? FFS they had from 2010 - 2024!
Ditto that silly woman Kamala Harris who is coming out with dawn of a new era lunacy and time for change baloney. Does she realise what political party has been in government and where the AWOL American border czar has been hiding since 2020? |  |
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| Tory leadership on 14:21 - Sep 29 with 2374 views | onehunglow |
Not bad debate is it ?
They need to get one in quickly in order to get stuck into Rach | |
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| Tory leadership on 10:51 - Sep 30 with 2235 views | controversial_jack |
| Tory leadership on 14:21 - Sep 29 by onehunglow |
Not bad debate is it ?
They need to get one in quickly in order to get stuck into Rach |
Regardless, the voters will remember 14 years of neglect and corruption | | | |
| Tory leadership on 10:55 - Sep 30 with 2224 views | onehunglow |
| Tory leadership on 12:36 - Sep 29 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think she’s the right person to revive the Tory party atm.
As things stand, it’s Lib Dem voters they need to woo, not Reform ones. |
Well,she answered a question,directly . | |
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| Tory leadership on 18:58 - Sep 30 with 2134 views | johnlangy |
I just switch off whenever one of them starts to speak. I'm amazed that they're not too embarrassed to spout the stupid things they say.
Jenrick for example - 'the answer to the prison population problem is to build more prisons.'
The Conservatives have just been in Government for 14 years, did nothing about the problem and he says that.
They'll probably come out with similar stupid answers to questions about the NHS, the CPS, the Care system, schools etc and the recruitment of staff for all those services.
Skins like rhinos. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 19:45 - Sep 30 with 2107 views | union_jack |
| Tory leadership on 18:58 - Sep 30 by johnlangy |
I just switch off whenever one of them starts to speak. I'm amazed that they're not too embarrassed to spout the stupid things they say.
Jenrick for example - 'the answer to the prison population problem is to build more prisons.'
The Conservatives have just been in Government for 14 years, did nothing about the problem and he says that.
They'll probably come out with similar stupid answers to questions about the NHS, the CPS, the Care system, schools etc and the recruitment of staff for all those services.
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Guto Harri on Sky just now has said that the party needs someone likeable. Someone that people wouldn’t want to slap in the face of which without naming names he said there were one or two. I’m absolutely sure Jenrick is one he’s thinking of.
I think Tugenhadt is the least offensive of the pick. | |
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| Tory leadership on 20:10 - Sep 30 with 2095 views | onehunglow |
| Tory leadership on 19:45 - Sep 30 by union_jack |
Guto Harri on Sky just now has said that the party needs someone likeable. Someone that people wouldn’t want to slap in the face of which without naming names he said there were one or two. I’m absolutely sure Jenrick is one he’s thinking of.
I think Tugenhadt is the least offensive of the pick. |
Yeah
Problem with Jen Rick is ge looks like previous failed Tory leaders
They don’t learn ,clearly.
Meanwhile, we have a smug Starmer in situ | |
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| Tory leadership on 22:38 - Sep 30 with 2052 views | majorraglan |
| Tory leadership on 20:10 - Sep 30 by onehunglow |
Yeah
Problem with Jen Rick is ge looks like previous failed Tory leaders
They don’t learn ,clearly.
Meanwhile, we have a smug Starmer in situ |
Jenrick was caught up in a bit of a scandal during the Covid era when it was alleged he breached the Covid rules, he was also embroiled in row over his role in a controversial £1bn development proposed by a Conservative Party donor where he approved the development after the planning inspector had turned it down. It transpires Jenrick and the donor had met and that the donor had shown Jenrick a promotional video and gifted £12k to the.
Conservative Party. I suspect this story will be resurrected at the next GE should Jenrick win and be used against him, sleaze etc etc.
Badenoch is rubbing people up the wrong way, she’s even copping flak from the readers in the Conservative press regarding yesterday’s interview and she’s reversing and back tracking faster than the proverbial Italian tank. She may be the darling of the right, but I can’t see comments like the above endearing her with the majority of the electorate. I’d say she’s out of touch, there’s been a huge furore from people like Andrea Jenkyn about the falling birth rate which many blame on the cost of living etc, stopping maternity pay isn’t going to encourage working people who may be maxing out to afford mortgages etc to have children, they’ll act responsibly, it’ll be the chavmungus who aren’t impacted by the maternity pay issue because they don’t work.
Cleverly and Tugendhat are the more centrist candidates, they appear more appealing to the centre but may not have support in the party.
I think it’ll be Jenrick and Cleverly in the last 2. I suspect Badenoch may become the victim of tactical voting. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 22:27 - Oct 3 with 1902 views | Kilkennyjack |
All dreadful.
The only decent Tory is Dominic Grieve.
They remain the English Nationalist Party … 🇬🇧🏴
And Laura K sent Johnson all her interview questions in advance. Fancy that …. 🤝 …. Who would have thought. |  |
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| Tory leadership on 13:45 - Oct 4 with 1841 views | onehunglow |
| Tory leadership on 22:38 - Sep 30 by majorraglan |
Jenrick was caught up in a bit of a scandal during the Covid era when it was alleged he breached the Covid rules, he was also embroiled in row over his role in a controversial £1bn development proposed by a Conservative Party donor where he approved the development after the planning inspector had turned it down. It transpires Jenrick and the donor had met and that the donor had shown Jenrick a promotional video and gifted £12k to the.
Conservative Party. I suspect this story will be resurrected at the next GE should Jenrick win and be used against him, sleaze etc etc.
Badenoch is rubbing people up the wrong way, she’s even copping flak from the readers in the Conservative press regarding yesterday’s interview and she’s reversing and back tracking faster than the proverbial Italian tank. She may be the darling of the right, but I can’t see comments like the above endearing her with the majority of the electorate. I’d say she’s out of touch, there’s been a huge furore from people like Andrea Jenkyn about the falling birth rate which many blame on the cost of living etc, stopping maternity pay isn’t going to encourage working people who may be maxing out to afford mortgages etc to have children, they’ll act responsibly, it’ll be the chavmungus who aren’t impacted by the maternity pay issue because they don’t work.
Cleverly and Tugendhat are the more centrist candidates, they appear more appealing to the centre but may not have support in the party.
I think it’ll be Jenrick and Cleverly in the last 2. I suspect Badenoch may become the victim of tactical voting. |
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| Tory leadership on 17:36 - Oct 9 with 1702 views | Gwyn737 |
Cleverly gone.
Tories now in bushes for a couple of years.
Huge opportunity for the Lib Dem’s to make a mark. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 17:40 - Oct 9 with 1689 views | onehunglow |
| Tory leadership on 17:36 - Oct 9 by Gwyn737 |
Cleverly gone.
Tories now in bushes for a couple of years.
Huge opportunity for the Lib Dem’s to make a mark. |
He has stature . OK he’s got some baggage but he’d have some gravitas
Badenoxh has little chance
A black woman ?
Tory Leader
Laughable
I’d love her to win it though as she’d rip into Smarmer
Jen Rick the archetype smarmy “ Toryboy”
They truly do not learn
Jenrick will ensure we have two faceless chaps at the dispatch box
Pitiful | |
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| Tory leadership on 18:30 - Oct 9 with 1650 views | johnlangy |
All of them are irrelevant to be now so I switch off when they speak. And they will hopefully be in the wilderness for at least two terms.
Happy days. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 19:32 - Oct 9 with 1591 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Tory leadership on 18:30 - Oct 9 by johnlangy |
All of them are irrelevant to be now so I switch off when they speak. And they will hopefully be in the wilderness for at least two terms.
Happy days. |
It'd be happy days if we knew we had a better lot in power. The jury is still out there but the evidence so far isn't really encouraging. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 20:41 - Oct 9 with 1509 views | Dr_Winston |
Badenoch has been impressive in the HoC. Don't know much about Jenrick.
Labour and others need to be careful here. The Tories didn't lose the last election because they were too right wing. They lost it because they were hopeless and completely failed to deal with the issues that people cared about, like immigration.
A Tory party that looks like it's got its shit together can easily reverse a hell of a lot of those losses and win back the voters they won in 2019 and who simply didn't vote this time around. Labour are off to a horrific start and it won't take much to turn the tide. |  |
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| Tory leadership on 20:47 - Oct 9 with 1495 views | onehunglow |
I've already commented Badenoch is impressive
Whether people buy into her is another matter
Labour voters
Will hate whoever they vote for
Starmer will have a challenger with some fire in the belly | |
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| Tory leadership on 20:56 - Oct 9 with 1483 views | Gwyn737 |
| Tory leadership on 20:41 - Oct 9 by Dr_Winston |
Badenoch has been impressive in the HoC. Don't know much about Jenrick.
Labour and others need to be careful here. The Tories didn't lose the last election because they were too right wing. They lost it because they were hopeless and completely failed to deal with the issues that people cared about, like immigration.
A Tory party that looks like it's got its shit together can easily reverse a hell of a lot of those losses and win back the voters they won in 2019 and who simply didn't vote this time around. Labour are off to a horrific start and it won't take much to turn the tide. |
This is why they need a centrist.
Both those candidates will lurch the party to the right. That’s not what they need IMO. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 21:00 - Oct 9 with 1478 views | Dr_Winston |
| Tory leadership on 20:56 - Oct 9 by Gwyn737 |
This is why they need a centrist.
Both those candidates will lurch the party to the right. That’s not what they need IMO. |
A centrist is the last thing they need. Cameron, May and Sunak were all centrists. Johnson pretended to be quite right wing in 2019 and won their biggest victory since Thatcher.
There is no appetite for far left Govts in the UK as Corbyn found out. People are tired of Centrists. "Two cheeks of the same arse" is a popular phrase these days. [Post edited 9 Oct 21:03]
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| Tory leadership on 21:03 - Oct 9 with 1474 views | Gwyn737 |
| Tory leadership on 21:00 - Oct 9 by Dr_Winston |
A centrist is the last thing they need. Cameron, May and Sunak were all centrists. Johnson pretended to be quite right wing in 2019 and won their biggest victory since Thatcher.
There is no appetite for far left Govts in the UK as Corbyn found out. People are tired of Centrists. "Two cheeks of the same arse" is a popular phrase these days. [Post edited 9 Oct 21:03]
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Then they’ll have to out flank Reform to the point they’ll become unpalatable to many.
As I said, I reckon the Lib Dem’s are licking their lips. | | | |
| Tory leadership on 21:12 - Oct 9 with 1446 views | Gwyn737 |
| Tory leadership on 20:41 - Oct 9 by Dr_Winston |
Badenoch has been impressive in the HoC. Don't know much about Jenrick.
Labour and others need to be careful here. The Tories didn't lose the last election because they were too right wing. They lost it because they were hopeless and completely failed to deal with the issues that people cared about, like immigration.
A Tory party that looks like it's got its shit together can easily reverse a hell of a lot of those losses and win back the voters they won in 2019 and who simply didn't vote this time around. Labour are off to a horrific start and it won't take much to turn the tide. |
Jenrick is the former housing minister who overrode local planning laws to green light a Tory donor £1,000.0000.000 housing scheme, saving an additional £50,000,000 a couple of days before a community levy was introduced.
Mind you, someone gave Starmer glasses so they’re all the same apparently 😉 [Post edited 9 Oct 21:12]
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| Tory leadership on 21:15 - Oct 9 with 1430 views | Dr_Winston |
| Tory leadership on 21:03 - Oct 9 by Gwyn737 |
Then they’ll have to out flank Reform to the point they’ll become unpalatable to many.
As I said, I reckon the Lib Dem’s are licking their lips. |
Reform will do themselves in. There will be one too many racist outbursts, a few scandals, and they'll die away like the BNP did after they had a brief moment of electoral success in the early 00's. | |
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