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Senedd Costs 07:38 - Sep 27 with 8483 viewsYrAlarch

Apparently it's going to cost us an extra £1.2 million to prepare the Senedd for the increased number of members.
Value for money?
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Senedd Costs on 18:28 - Oct 29 with 966 viewsSullutaCreturned

Senedd Costs on 16:03 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

Nothing compared to the House of Lords. In the evolution of Wales the parliament and self determination is vital for many of us. This is the first Welsh parliament ever.

It can perform a lot better if the voters were more careful in selecting their candidates. The last leader preferred to hang on to £200k rather than his job as the leader which was a pretty poor optic. It showed a lack of fibre.
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I take it you don't know that the voters do not select candidates, they get given a choice of party, the candidate is selected by the party, even that is about to change thanks to the Senedd. Soon enough you will only be able to vote for the party and then they will decide who gets the seat at their discretion.

Who chose the last leader of Welsh Labour? I didn't get a vote. It's like Wales is as undemocratic as the Westminster trough dwellers who Drakeford and Gething were so critical of.
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Senedd Costs on 19:47 - Oct 29 with 906 viewsReslovenSwan1

Senedd Costs on 18:28 - Oct 29 by SullutaCreturned

I take it you don't know that the voters do not select candidates, they get given a choice of party, the candidate is selected by the party, even that is about to change thanks to the Senedd. Soon enough you will only be able to vote for the party and then they will decide who gets the seat at their discretion.

Who chose the last leader of Welsh Labour? I didn't get a vote. It's like Wales is as undemocratic as the Westminster trough dwellers who Drakeford and Gething were so critical of.


The labour party selected Gething by a vote. They knew the character of this man who was happy to cash in and give up the job of leading the country. He sounds to be a person of very low ambition and drive. The Labour party voted him into the role.

I will have to research the new voting system you have highlighted which is proportional representation and a fairer system than at Westminster. Welsh voters can punish the Welsh Labour party for picking this man if they chose to.

There is nothing wrong with the WAG that an new broom cannot solve. The WAG has been 600 years coming and a great example to minortiy group worldwide. Kurds, Tibetans Tamil Sri Lankans and Ughiars in China would love such a democratic body respect and peace.

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Senedd Costs on 22:08 - Oct 29 with 851 viewsBoundy

Senedd Costs on 19:47 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

The labour party selected Gething by a vote. They knew the character of this man who was happy to cash in and give up the job of leading the country. He sounds to be a person of very low ambition and drive. The Labour party voted him into the role.

I will have to research the new voting system you have highlighted which is proportional representation and a fairer system than at Westminster. Welsh voters can punish the Welsh Labour party for picking this man if they chose to.

There is nothing wrong with the WAG that an new broom cannot solve. The WAG has been 600 years coming and a great example to minortiy group worldwide. Kurds, Tibetans Tamil Sri Lankans and Ughiars in China would love such a democratic body respect and peace.


"democratic body " Really

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Senedd Costs on 22:29 - Oct 29 with 853 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Senedd Costs on 19:47 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

The labour party selected Gething by a vote. They knew the character of this man who was happy to cash in and give up the job of leading the country. He sounds to be a person of very low ambition and drive. The Labour party voted him into the role.

I will have to research the new voting system you have highlighted which is proportional representation and a fairer system than at Westminster. Welsh voters can punish the Welsh Labour party for picking this man if they chose to.

There is nothing wrong with the WAG that an new broom cannot solve. The WAG has been 600 years coming and a great example to minortiy group worldwide. Kurds, Tibetans Tamil Sri Lankans and Ughiars in China would love such a democratic body respect and peace.


Personally, I would like to know which person I am voting for. I'm what you may call a floating voter and always research candidates and pick what seems to be the most able.
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Senedd Costs on 06:26 - Oct 30 with 814 viewsWhiterockin

Senedd Costs on 22:29 - Oct 29 by JACKMANANDBOY

Personally, I would like to know which person I am voting for. I'm what you may call a floating voter and always research candidates and pick what seems to be the most able.
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Only sheep vote for a party irrespective of the candidate. Wait a minute that's what Welsh Labour want.
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Senedd Costs on 10:04 - Oct 30 with 769 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Senedd Costs on 06:26 - Oct 30 by Whiterockin

Only sheep vote for a party irrespective of the candidate. Wait a minute that's what Welsh Labour want.


The roots of democracy lie in groups of people identifying one from their community to represent them, now the Senedd are saying we will not know who our representative will be just the party they represent!

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Senedd Costs on 14:52 - Oct 30 with 731 viewsSullutaCreturned

Senedd Costs on 19:47 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

The labour party selected Gething by a vote. They knew the character of this man who was happy to cash in and give up the job of leading the country. He sounds to be a person of very low ambition and drive. The Labour party voted him into the role.

I will have to research the new voting system you have highlighted which is proportional representation and a fairer system than at Westminster. Welsh voters can punish the Welsh Labour party for picking this man if they chose to.

There is nothing wrong with the WAG that an new broom cannot solve. The WAG has been 600 years coming and a great example to minortiy group worldwide. Kurds, Tibetans Tamil Sri Lankans and Ughiars in China would love such a democratic body respect and peace.


Exactly, the Labour prty, the majority of people of Wales had no say, It was the same way that the Tories chose a few PM's recently and a way that was criticised by Welsh Labour for being undemocratic, changing the leadwe should mean an election.

It's not PR, they are just taking away your right to vote for a person and saying choose the party then WE will decide who represents you.

I will agree about a new broom but what are the chances of that new broom happening? The Senedd are busy consolidating their position, increasing the noses in the trough and taking awayan essential part of representative politics, our right to choose the PERSON we want.
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Senedd Costs on 18:02 - Oct 30 with 693 viewsKilkennyjack

Senedd Costs on 14:52 - Oct 30 by SullutaCreturned

Exactly, the Labour prty, the majority of people of Wales had no say, It was the same way that the Tories chose a few PM's recently and a way that was criticised by Welsh Labour for being undemocratic, changing the leadwe should mean an election.

It's not PR, they are just taking away your right to vote for a person and saying choose the party then WE will decide who represents you.

I will agree about a new broom but what are the chances of that new broom happening? The Senedd are busy consolidating their position, increasing the noses in the trough and taking awayan essential part of representative politics, our right to choose the PERSON we want.


You are right on this one.

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Senedd Costs on 18:19 - Oct 30 with 688 viewsSullutaCreturned

Senedd Costs on 18:02 - Oct 30 by Kilkennyjack

You are right on this one.


It had to happen one day
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Senedd Costs on 20:35 - Oct 30 with 659 viewsReslovenSwan1

Here is the information

https://senedd.wales/senedd-now/news/major-changes-to-the-senedd-approved/

"Unless voting for an independent candidate, people choose a political party to vote for, with the elected representatives coming from lists decided by parties. The names of all candidates will appear on the ballot paper.

It seems instead of voting for a single candidate you are now voting for a listed group of six as I understand it. This means reading 6:summaries not one. Not sure why they have done this.
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Senedd Costs on 21:02 - Oct 30 with 626 viewsraynor94

Senedd Costs on 20:35 - Oct 30 by ReslovenSwan1

Here is the information

https://senedd.wales/senedd-now/news/major-changes-to-the-senedd-approved/

"Unless voting for an independent candidate, people choose a political party to vote for, with the elected representatives coming from lists decided by parties. The names of all candidates will appear on the ballot paper.

It seems instead of voting for a single candidate you are now voting for a listed group of six as I understand it. This means reading 6:summaries not one. Not sure why they have done this.
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Labour trying to cling to power, what an absolute waste of money, they certainly need to order in bigger troughs

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Senedd Costs on 22:00 - Oct 30 with 612 viewsKilkennyjack

Senedd Costs on 18:19 - Oct 30 by SullutaCreturned

It had to happen one day


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Beware of the Risen People

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Senedd Costs on 07:58 - Nov 5 with 468 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Senedd Costs on 20:35 - Oct 30 by ReslovenSwan1

Here is the information

https://senedd.wales/senedd-now/news/major-changes-to-the-senedd-approved/

"Unless voting for an independent candidate, people choose a political party to vote for, with the elected representatives coming from lists decided by parties. The names of all candidates will appear on the ballot paper.

It seems instead of voting for a single candidate you are now voting for a listed group of six as I understand it. This means reading 6:summaries not one. Not sure why they have done this.
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Simple reason. You now cannot vote out a sitting Senedd member you do not think is ip to the job. The senedd election is no longer democratic.

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Senedd Costs on 11:13 - Nov 6 with 404 viewsReslovenSwan1

Senedd Costs on 07:58 - Nov 5 by felixstowe_jack

Simple reason. You now cannot vote out a sitting Senedd member you do not think is ip to the job. The senedd election is no longer democratic.


It has changed once and can be changed again if people object. I will object actually.

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Senedd Costs on 11:36 - Nov 6 with 398 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Senedd Costs on 11:13 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1

It has changed once and can be changed again if people object. I will object actually.


Unfortunately can only be changed by the Senedd itself. Why would labour change a voting system that gives them a permanent advantage.

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Senedd Costs on 11:56 - Nov 6 with 381 viewsReslovenSwan1

Senedd Costs on 11:36 - Nov 6 by felixstowe_jack

Unfortunately can only be changed by the Senedd itself. Why would labour change a voting system that gives them a permanent advantage.


Scottish voters ditched them a decade ago because of their arrogance.it can happen in Wales .

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Senedd Costs on 13:10 - Nov 6 with 360 viewsBoundy

Senedd Costs on 11:56 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1

Scottish voters ditched them a decade ago because of their arrogance.it can happen in Wales .


And in 2026 it will , the sheep have seen the light.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Senedd Costs on 15:06 - Nov 6 with 332 viewsunion_jack

Senedd Costs on 13:10 - Nov 6 by Boundy

And in 2026 it will , the sheep have seen the light.


To vote for who though Boundy? PC are a danger with their quest for independence and Conservatives just wouldn’t get the numbers.

I will vote to get them all out, whatever that party may be called.

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Senedd Costs on 15:23 - Nov 6 with 314 viewsWhiterockin

Senedd Costs on 15:06 - Nov 6 by union_jack

To vote for who though Boundy? PC are a danger with their quest for independence and Conservatives just wouldn’t get the numbers.

I will vote to get them all out, whatever that party may be called.


Reform will use it as a stepping stone to the next general election. Imagine if they guaranteed a vote on abolishing the Senedd, would they get your vote.
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Senedd Costs on 16:33 - Nov 6 with 271 viewsunion_jack

Senedd Costs on 15:23 - Nov 6 by Whiterockin

Reform will use it as a stepping stone to the next general election. Imagine if they guaranteed a vote on abolishing the Senedd, would they get your vote.
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Yes they would.

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Senedd Costs on 18:11 - Nov 6 with 239 viewsReslovenSwan1

Senedd Costs on 16:33 - Nov 6 by union_jack

Yes they would.


You want Welsh affairs to be run by remote English people. I do not want this. It would help the Senedd if they stopped unpopular laws for the powers they have. This can be resolved by the voter. Reform / Brexit has, done enough damage..

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Senedd Costs on 18:50 - Nov 6 with 234 viewsBoundy

Senedd Costs on 18:11 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1

You want Welsh affairs to be run by remote English people. I do not want this. It would help the Senedd if they stopped unpopular laws for the powers they have. This can be resolved by the voter. Reform / Brexit has, done enough damage..


We have a government based in Wales ,just what good has that done for those not living in the s east corner, very little .I think what you want will have little or no bearing in 2026.Reform will be targeting Wales as already posted as a stepping stone into Westminster.Already labour in recent local elections have lost power and that will continue whether you want it to or not.Reform will take over the Tories as the main opposition party.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Senedd Costs on 18:53 - Nov 6 with 230 viewsraynor94

Senedd Costs on 18:50 - Nov 6 by Boundy

We have a government based in Wales ,just what good has that done for those not living in the s east corner, very little .I think what you want will have little or no bearing in 2026.Reform will be targeting Wales as already posted as a stepping stone into Westminster.Already labour in recent local elections have lost power and that will continue whether you want it to or not.Reform will take over the Tories as the main opposition party.


I certainly wouldn't vote Welsh Labour again

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Senedd Costs on 18:58 - Nov 6 with 227 viewsBoundy

Senedd Costs on 15:06 - Nov 6 by union_jack

To vote for who though Boundy? PC are a danger with their quest for independence and Conservatives just wouldn’t get the numbers.

I will vote to get them all out, whatever that party may be called.


Myself it will be Reform , when a party such as Labour especially Welsh Labour with it's history of fighting for the rights and betterment of it's population then to see the past 25 years literally destroy the very fabric of it's society without a backwards glance.The Tories aren't a viable option due to again their indifference over the past 14 years ,more concerned with itself than those it was meant to represent, the less said about PC the better., so for me and I do believe Reform cannot do any worse than the past few decades have given us.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Senedd Costs on 19:40 - Nov 6 with 217 viewsSullutaCreturned

Senedd Costs on 18:58 - Nov 6 by Boundy

Myself it will be Reform , when a party such as Labour especially Welsh Labour with it's history of fighting for the rights and betterment of it's population then to see the past 25 years literally destroy the very fabric of it's society without a backwards glance.The Tories aren't a viable option due to again their indifference over the past 14 years ,more concerned with itself than those it was meant to represent, the less said about PC the better., so for me and I do believe Reform cannot do any worse than the past few decades have given us.


I couldn't bring myself to Reforms table, it'll still be an independent candidate for me, at least I'll know who I'm voting for.
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