| One for Tummer... on 22:04 - Sep 7 with 994 views | Dr_Winston |
By any serious evaluation, Harris is a hopeless candidate for President. America's problem is that she is still a far better option than Trump.
Pretty bonkers how "The Greatest Democracy in the World" ended up in this position. |  |
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| One for Tummer... on 23:42 - Sep 7 with 961 views | DaPs166 |
| One for Tummer... on 22:04 - Sep 7 by Dr_Winston |
By any serious evaluation, Harris is a hopeless candidate for President. America's problem is that she is still a far better option than Trump.
Pretty bonkers how "The Greatest Democracy in the World" ended up in this position. |
Lots of people say that Trump is worse, or he’s a threat to democracy. In what way is he bad? What would he do in office that’s so awful?
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅.
Now that rhetoric isn’t working, they’ve resorted to calling Trump weird. Which is strange for people who think men can stick a wig on and be women instantly, no questions asked. 😅 |  | | |
| One for Tummer... on 08:50 - Sep 8 with 913 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 16:52 - Sep 7 by DJack |
I agree with that she wouldn't. But as I started the post about Trump and his lies it is funny to see people pivot it to her. She has failings sure but nowhere near as many as Trump and that dangerous narcissist made it to the Presidency and after that some fools would vote for him again. |
It wasn’t a conscious attempt to pivot it to her. Anotherjohn made a valid comment about left field factors that may influence the election and used hunter biden’s naughtiness as an example. I then chipped in and said the debates will be important too because Harris has a record of struggle without her notes and teleprompter. It was a very organic conversation.
We’ve been talking about Trump for ten years. He’s a known quantity. Harris is the new kid on the block and people are thinking and hoping she’s the answer when it’s quite clear to anyone with a functioning brain that she’s definitely not. |  |
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| One for Tummer... on 09:03 - Sep 8 with 907 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 16:39 - Sep 7 by Gwyn737 |
I think you’re right in ‘normal’ times.
But to beat Trump? Being a younger, black female means her stock rises dramatically, whether you think she’s any good or not. |
Well that’s just stupid. Why should a persons “stock rise dramatically” based solely on their ethnicity, sex and age?
When are we going to grow up and start judging people based on character, moral fibre, knowledge and ability? You know, actual important things over the superficial nonsense about how much melanin they produce in their skin or what genitals they have. | |
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| One for Tummer... on 09:30 - Sep 8 with 894 views | Gwyn737 |
| One for Tummer... on 09:03 - Sep 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Well that’s just stupid. Why should a persons “stock rise dramatically” based solely on their ethnicity, sex and age?
When are we going to grow up and start judging people based on character, moral fibre, knowledge and ability? You know, actual important things over the superficial nonsense about how much melanin they produce in their skin or what genitals they have. |
It’s not how I see it, it’s how the general public see it. I’ve seen nothing up to now impressive about Harris but she’s moved the needle because she is who she is and she’s not Joe Biden.
It’s also how the Republican Party see it as they’ve struggled up to now to find a particular attack line as she doesn’t fit the usual candidate mold.
You seem to think I’m both a Harris supporter and for equality of outcome. What’s given you that idea? | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 09:31 - Sep 8 with 892 views | Dr_Winston |
| One for Tummer... on 23:42 - Sep 7 by DaPs166 |
Lots of people say that Trump is worse, or he’s a threat to democracy. In what way is he bad? What would he do in office that’s so awful?
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅.
Now that rhetoric isn’t working, they’ve resorted to calling Trump weird. Which is strange for people who think men can stick a wig on and be women instantly, no questions asked. 😅 |
Generally speaking I would prefer the leader of the free world to have fewer felony convictions and proven legal cases for sexual assault, but I accept that may not be an issue for everybody. | |
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| One for Tummer... on 10:35 - Sep 8 with 861 views | theloneranger |
| One for Tummer... on 09:03 - Sep 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Well that’s just stupid. Why should a persons “stock rise dramatically” based solely on their ethnicity, sex and age?
When are we going to grow up and start judging people based on character, moral fibre, knowledge and ability? You know, actual important things over the superficial nonsense about how much melanin they produce in their skin or what genitals they have. |
Ask the Republicans - Why they vote for a "man" with orange skin?? 😇 |  |
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| One for Tummer... on 13:45 - Sep 8 with 823 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One for Tummer... on 23:42 - Sep 7 by DaPs166 |
Lots of people say that Trump is worse, or he’s a threat to democracy. In what way is he bad? What would he do in office that’s so awful?
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅.
Now that rhetoric isn’t working, they’ve resorted to calling Trump weird. Which is strange for people who think men can stick a wig on and be women instantly, no questions asked. 😅 |
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅
Except he didn't just do that and walk away, he fought the result, inspired people to break the law ( even though it now seems apparent that he knew he lost fair and square ) and that ended u with thousands of people occupying the Capitol building, many of them ending up in prison amd quite a few now determinedly anti Trump because they now see him for what he is, after his litte admission about losing. | | | |
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| One for Tummer... on 17:04 - Sep 8 with 763 views | Gwyn737 |
| One for Tummer... on 13:45 - Sep 8 by SullutaCreturned |
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅
Except he didn't just do that and walk away, he fought the result, inspired people to break the law ( even though it now seems apparent that he knew he lost fair and square ) and that ended u with thousands of people occupying the Capitol building, many of them ending up in prison amd quite a few now determinedly anti Trump because they now see him for what he is, after his litte admission about losing. |
And this word salad of craziness is from today:
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| One for Tummer... on 17:14 - Sep 8 with 762 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 13:45 - Sep 8 by SullutaCreturned |
The democrats say he is a threat to democracy because he didn’t accept the result of the election. Except he stood down and went through the normal hand over process, and the democrats do the exact fvcking same when they lose 😅
Except he didn't just do that and walk away, he fought the result, inspired people to break the law ( even though it now seems apparent that he knew he lost fair and square ) and that ended u with thousands of people occupying the Capitol building, many of them ending up in prison amd quite a few now determinedly anti Trump because they now see him for what he is, after his litte admission about losing. |
He didn’t inspire people to break the law he told them to march peacefully and make their voices heard. Those people who broke the law did so of their own accord.
If we are going to apply those standards then surely Biden should be up for inspiring an assassination attempt for saying Trump should be put in the crosshairs a few days before someone came within millimetres of putting a bullet in his head. That would be ridiculous though.
It’s all part of the dumbing down of politics, the control of language and speech is worryingly extreme in the last few years. [Post edited 8 Sep 17:14]
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| One for Tummer... on 17:50 - Sep 8 with 738 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One for Tummer... on 17:14 - Sep 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
He didn’t inspire people to break the law he told them to march peacefully and make their voices heard. Those people who broke the law did so of their own accord.
If we are going to apply those standards then surely Biden should be up for inspiring an assassination attempt for saying Trump should be put in the crosshairs a few days before someone came within millimetres of putting a bullet in his head. That would be ridiculous though.
It’s all part of the dumbing down of politics, the control of language and speech is worryingly extreme in the last few years. [Post edited 8 Sep 17:14]
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He inspired them, he made a speech exhorting them to fight, whichever context you want to take it in and at the end he urged people to march to the Capitol.
If he hadn't strongly urged people to march would those events have happened? It wasn't just that one speech though, for weeks he was making aggressive speeches about fighting and lets face it, his supporters (proud boys, MAGA) arethick enoughto react to his language.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-history-of-support-from-white-supremacist
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-militia-election/
We weren't discussing Biden but if we were, I'd be agreeing because Biden is no more fit to be POTUS than Trump. | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 18:00 - Sep 8 with 727 views | onehunglow |
Keep it tidy eh
What is arrant nonsense to one is not to mothers . Non. Sense….
Frankly,I don’t care who keeps Trump from the White House
The circus around Harris is pretty gruesome and she ain’t my cup of tea but it’s all about keeping the filth that is Trump well away from power .Any power . | |
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| One for Tummer... on 18:08 - Sep 8 with 706 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One for Tummer... on 18:00 - Sep 8 by onehunglow |
Keep it tidy eh
What is arrant nonsense to one is not to mothers . Non. Sense….
Frankly,I don’t care who keeps Trump from the White House
The circus around Harris is pretty gruesome and she ain’t my cup of tea but it’s all about keeping the filth that is Trump well away from power .Any power . |
It's a bit like when we had a choice of Corbyn or Bojo, whichever way you voted you lost, it's just a matter of the lesser evil. | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 22:10 - Sep 8 with 681 views | DJack |
| One for Tummer... on 20:59 - Sep 7 by DaPs166 |
And you attack the person not the issue, then scuttle away when confronted.
The democrats play the same game as the republicans. Open your eyes. It’s regular political discourse in the states(not that it’s right, it isn’t).
They continually said al gore won the election in 2000 and it was stolen.
They are massive hypocrites and even if you hate Trump, it’s clear to see they are using the courts to de legitimise his presidential run.
Do as I say not as I do personified. |
Er no, I just think that you are a fool who gets his information from right wing attack sites.
Your take post Hanas invasion and your regurgitation of right wing information warfare makes me want to have as little contact with you as possible.
But as we are here got any proof of Kanala spending 40 years on her back to get to the top... please no nutjob links who are "backed up" by other nutjob sites. |  |
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| One for Tummer... on 23:33 - Sep 8 with 657 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 18:08 - Sep 8 by SullutaCreturned |
It's a bit like when we had a choice of Corbyn or Bojo, whichever way you voted you lost, it's just a matter of the lesser evil. |
A bumbling fornicating chucklesome buffoon or a literal enemy of the state with a five decade long history of siding with all who want to destroy Britain.
What a choice eh? | |
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| One for Tummer... on 09:57 - Sep 9 with 614 views | onehunglow |
| One for Tummer... on 23:33 - Sep 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
A bumbling fornicating chucklesome buffoon or a literal enemy of the state with a five decade long history of siding with all who want to destroy Britain.
What a choice eh? |
Indeed so.
Corbyn was unelectable . His own Labour people admitted as much .
Johnson was a sick joke ,but he’s done ok out of it all. | |
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| One for Tummer... on 13:43 - Sep 9 with 562 views | DaPs166 |
| One for Tummer... on 09:31 - Sep 8 by Dr_Winston |
Generally speaking I would prefer the leader of the free world to have fewer felony convictions and proven legal cases for sexual assault, but I accept that may not be an issue for everybody. |
The convictions are politically driven and the sexual assault isn’t proven, it was a civil case which requires a much less high standard of evidence than a criminal case.
If you’re driven by that then I have a bridge to sell you. | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 15:34 - Sep 9 with 530 views | DJack |
| One for Tummer... on 13:43 - Sep 9 by DaPs166 |
The convictions are politically driven and the sexual assault isn’t proven, it was a civil case which requires a much less high standard of evidence than a criminal case.
If you’re driven by that then I have a bridge to sell you. |
Arrant nonsense, you're being g blinded by the sites you peruse. The serial assault case WAS proven. His defamation trials underscore that trial result.
And you are totally ignoring the fact he is a convicted felon on multiple counts...every count he was found UNAMINOUSLY GUILTY. Observers of the case pointed out such a complete set of unanimous verdicts for all the indictments showed how well proven the trial was. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| One for Tummer... on 17:45 - Sep 9 with 505 views | onehunglow |
| One for Tummer... on 20:59 - Sep 7 by DaPs166 |
And you attack the person not the issue, then scuttle away when confronted.
The democrats play the same game as the republicans. Open your eyes. It’s regular political discourse in the states(not that it’s right, it isn’t).
They continually said al gore won the election in 2000 and it was stolen.
They are massive hypocrites and even if you hate Trump, it’s clear to see they are using the courts to de legitimise his presidential run.
Do as I say not as I do personified. |
I detest the image of Trump
His personality is enough to make me recoil
As for Harris, she seems as disingenuous as anyone seeking power
She will destroy him face to face though
If Trump wins,he will die in office | |
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| One for Tummer... on 18:46 - Sep 9 with 480 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One for Tummer... on 23:33 - Sep 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
A bumbling fornicating chucklesome buffoon or a literal enemy of the state with a five decade long history of siding with all who want to destroy Britain.
What a choice eh? |
Except the bumbling is all an act, he's clever, devious and very sneaky.
I was told a story about him, how he performs the same routine at speeches. He turns up and plays the bumbling oaf who forgot his speech, then he goes on to give a very good "off the cuff" speech. It's not off the cuff at all though, it's very well rehearsed and it's all designed to take in the audience, to get them onside.
At least Corbyn sticks to his morals, Bojo has very few and they are completely interchangeable. | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 23:30 - Sep 9 with 458 views | DaPs166 |
| One for Tummer... on 22:10 - Sep 8 by DJack |
Er no, I just think that you are a fool who gets his information from right wing attack sites.
Your take post Hanas invasion and your regurgitation of right wing information warfare makes me want to have as little contact with you as possible.
But as we are here got any proof of Kanala spending 40 years on her back to get to the top... please no nutjob links who are "backed up" by other nutjob sites. |
Hamas;
What opinion of mine do you disagree with? Bizarre thing for you to say.
Kamala Harris;
Everyone who disagrees with your world view is a right wing propagandist. When in reality I’m a rational person who isn’t influenced by anything but the facts. Especially seeing as the result doesn’t matter here nor there to anyone much in this country.
Willie Brown(ex san fransidco mayor) and Kamala met when he was 60 and she was 29. He gave her a job when she was on her back for him. Why else would a young woman go out with an old bloke apart from wanting something in return? Use your brain;
https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/willie-brown-kamala-harris-backg
https://amp.scmp.com/magazines/style/entertainment/article/3272329/who-kamala-ha
“ The speaker gave Harris a couple plum positions on two state regulatory boards — the Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission. “If you were asked to be on a board that regulated medical care, would you say no?” Harris told SFWeekly a few years later.
Harris’ connection to Brown also helped her make connections across San Francisco high-society and California political elite. In 1996, a year after Brown became mayor and Harris broke off the relationship, she joined the board of trustees at San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. ”
Kamala pulled out of the 2020 race because she was awful. Was only chosen because she was a woman of colour and is now only the nominee because it’s the only person they have. Failing upwards. | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 23:42 - Sep 9 with 455 views | DaPs166 |
| One for Tummer... on 15:34 - Sep 9 by DJack |
Arrant nonsense, you're being g blinded by the sites you peruse. The serial assault case WAS proven. His defamation trials underscore that trial result.
And you are totally ignoring the fact he is a convicted felon on multiple counts...every count he was found UNAMINOUSLY GUILTY. Observers of the case pointed out such a complete set of unanimous verdicts for all the indictments showed how well proven the trial was. |
Talking of arrant nonsense, Shut the fvck up about “the sites I peruse”. I read the BBC mostly.
You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about when it comes to civil cases, quite clearly. You don’t understand how low the bar of evidence needs to be. The civil case is completely meaningless and doesn’t mean anything in reality.
A civil case is simply a weigh up of evidence and “more likely than not” in the opinion of a judge that something did or didn’t happen. I’ve even been ruled against in a civil claim for employment where the employer wanted to get rid of me due to financial constraints. He sacked me for ‘gross misconduct’(with no explanation) I got angry with him afterward. So the employer lied in court and said my anger caused him to sack me for gross misconduct 😅 he also had a barrister which leant him credibility. The judge ruled in his favour and I had to pay his costs.
I know first hand how easily a judge can get a civil claim wrong, based on hear say and circumstantial at best evidence.
Trump also may well have done something criminal to get the felony convictions. However, what he was found guilty of is so minor, no one else would have been brought on such petty charges. Millions of people break the law all the time and it’s left. It’s clearly politically motivated and used as a cudgel to beat Trump over the head with. and if you can’t see it then you have a screw loose.
It’s possibly all the left wing media you consume 😂 | | | |
| One for Tummer... on 11:33 - Sep 10 with 377 views | DJack |
| One for Tummer... on 23:30 - Sep 9 by DaPs166 |
Hamas;
What opinion of mine do you disagree with? Bizarre thing for you to say.
Kamala Harris;
Everyone who disagrees with your world view is a right wing propagandist. When in reality I’m a rational person who isn’t influenced by anything but the facts. Especially seeing as the result doesn’t matter here nor there to anyone much in this country.
Willie Brown(ex san fransidco mayor) and Kamala met when he was 60 and she was 29. He gave her a job when she was on her back for him. Why else would a young woman go out with an old bloke apart from wanting something in return? Use your brain;
https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/willie-brown-kamala-harris-backg
https://amp.scmp.com/magazines/style/entertainment/article/3272329/who-kamala-ha
“ The speaker gave Harris a couple plum positions on two state regulatory boards — the Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission. “If you were asked to be on a board that regulated medical care, would you say no?” Harris told SFWeekly a few years later.
Harris’ connection to Brown also helped her make connections across San Francisco high-society and California political elite. In 1996, a year after Brown became mayor and Harris broke off the relationship, she joined the board of trustees at San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. ”
Kamala pulled out of the 2020 race because she was awful. Was only chosen because she was a woman of colour and is now only the nominee because it’s the only person they have. Failing upwards. |
Your first link is paywalled and your second blows your claim out of the water with a direct quote...
. “I don’t think she owes her career to me,” he told the publication. “I think talent is what got her where she is. And she has been through the chairs: DA [district attorney], attorney general, US senator and now vice-president. That’s an indication that she had to be talented.”
Additionally you claimed earlier in the thread that Harris has spent 40 years on her back and have yet to show any proof | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| One for Tummer... on 12:23 - Sep 10 with 372 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 18:46 - Sep 9 by SullutaCreturned |
Except the bumbling is all an act, he's clever, devious and very sneaky.
I was told a story about him, how he performs the same routine at speeches. He turns up and plays the bumbling oaf who forgot his speech, then he goes on to give a very good "off the cuff" speech. It's not off the cuff at all though, it's very well rehearsed and it's all designed to take in the audience, to get them onside.
At least Corbyn sticks to his morals, Bojo has very few and they are completely interchangeable. |
There are several examples of Corbyn chucking his morals and principles in the bin when it seemed politically expedient to do so. Pretending to be a “7 out of 10 remainer” after forty years of opposing and voting against anything and everything to do with Europe was a bit of a clue as to how sacred his beliefs were. | |
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| One for Tummer... on 12:31 - Sep 10 with 362 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| One for Tummer... on 11:33 - Sep 10 by DJack |
Your first link is paywalled and your second blows your claim out of the water with a direct quote...
. “I don’t think she owes her career to me,” he told the publication. “I think talent is what got her where she is. And she has been through the chairs: DA [district attorney], attorney general, US senator and now vice-president. That’s an indication that she had to be talented.”
Additionally you claimed earlier in the thread that Harris has spent 40 years on her back and have yet to show any proof |
Claiming she has got to where she is by lying on her back is completely and totally unacceptable.
I hear she’s very good at reverse cowgirl.
(Joke. Please don’t arrest me) | |
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