| More stabbings 13:30 - Aug 12 with 12371 views | KeithHaynes |
An 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman have been stabbed in London's Leicester Square.
The Metropolitan Police said they have been taken to hospital but their condition is not yet known.
A man has been arrested and is in custody.
The Met Police said in a statement posted on X: "We don't believe there are any outstanding suspects."
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| More stabbings on 16:53 - Aug 31 with 795 views | Luther27 |
| More stabbings on 16:07 - Aug 31 by Flashberryjack |
I know what the government can do, ban smoking outside pubs. |
Morris dancing next… |  |
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| More stabbings on 16:59 - Aug 31 with 785 views | Wingstandwood |
| More stabbings on 16:07 - Aug 31 by Flashberryjack |
I know what the government can do, ban smoking outside pubs. |
WE are ALL going to see loads of this type of sh1t over the next couple of years. When all that is on offer is further U.K's decay?
Out will come superfluous b0ll*cks portrayed as ground breaking policies, dynamic government and achievement. |  |
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| More stabbings on 00:45 - Sep 5 with 611 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Already killed two people before coming here posing as a 14 year old orphan….
And there we are folks. This is what we’re facing in a f*cking nutshell. |  |
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| More stabbings on 07:12 - Sep 5 with 565 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 00:45 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Already killed two people before coming here posing as a 14 year old orphan….
And there we are folks. This is what we’re facing in a f*cking nutshell. |
It's shocking.
He should have been correctly processed and deported.
Unfortunately over the previous 4 years the number of those those waiting for their claims to be processed increased by a factor of 5. The system could have done with a massive cash injection and increased levels of staff.
A month after this poor lads murder the Rwanda scheme was launched. Costing 100's of millions of pounds and employing 1000 staff.
Stop the boats! Does that include ferries to Poole? | | | |
| More stabbings on 07:57 - Sep 5 with 527 views | AnotherJohn |
| More stabbings on 07:12 - Sep 5 by Scotia |
It's shocking.
He should have been correctly processed and deported.
Unfortunately over the previous 4 years the number of those those waiting for their claims to be processed increased by a factor of 5. The system could have done with a massive cash injection and increased levels of staff.
A month after this poor lads murder the Rwanda scheme was launched. Costing 100's of millions of pounds and employing 1000 staff.
Stop the boats! Does that include ferries to Poole? |
Could this man have been deported though? We do not have a returns agreement with Afghanistan and there seems no prospect of one with the Taliban in charge. Germany announced last month that it would break EU ranks by starting deportations of criminals to Afghanistan, and was promptly criticized by Amnesty International for collaborating with the Taliban. Germany is also considering getting third countries to take refused asylum seekers or deportees. and this suggests that a Rwanda-type option is not entirely discredited. Without a way of removing a person from the UK, the speed of processing makes little difference (although obviously the faster the better on other grounds).
Too many people, mainly self-identified progressives, refuse to acknowledge that there will be collateral damage. A few years ago I wrote to the BBC complaining about a comment from John Pienaar saying that no British person had been killed by a refugee, and giving a couple of examples. Unusually, I got a response that relayed on a message from Pienaar saying the number was tiny and in effect that the exception proved the rule that there was no real risk. I heard him saying something similar about problems being exaggerated on Times Radio just last week. [Post edited 5 Sep 9:00]
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| More stabbings on 08:53 - Sep 5 with 494 views | onehunglow |
| More stabbings on 00:45 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Already killed two people before coming here posing as a 14 year old orphan….
And there we are folks. This is what we’re facing in a f*cking nutshell. |
Well no,not for some anyway
Denying the absolutely obvious | |
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| More stabbings on 09:12 - Sep 5 with 475 views | Boundy |
| More stabbings on 00:45 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Already killed two people before coming here posing as a 14 year old orphan….
And there we are folks. This is what we’re facing in a f*cking nutshell. |
The so called experts and betters ( because that's what they believe to be ) are insulated from all this shi* and this is why is there no will to stop scum like this is because too many of them listen to arse wipes like this who protest when the mere suggestion of dental checks be used to determine the age of some low life goat herder best suited to be 6 feet under the ground than to live amongst us .
The British Dental association strongly opposed the reintroduction of such checks because it believes that it was inappropriate and unethical to subject people to radiation when there is no health benefit for them. " X-rays taken for a clinically justified reason must not be used for another purpose without the patient's informed consent and must be carried out without coercion and in full knowledge of how the radiograph will be used and by whom." | |
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| More stabbings on 09:22 - Sep 5 with 454 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| More stabbings on 07:12 - Sep 5 by Scotia |
It's shocking.
He should have been correctly processed and deported.
Unfortunately over the previous 4 years the number of those those waiting for their claims to be processed increased by a factor of 5. The system could have done with a massive cash injection and increased levels of staff.
A month after this poor lads murder the Rwanda scheme was launched. Costing 100's of millions of pounds and employing 1000 staff.
Stop the boats! Does that include ferries to Poole? |
You can’t deport a 14 year old orphan that’s inhumane(!) | |
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| More stabbings on 09:28 - Sep 5 with 445 views | DaPs166 |
Anyone coming to this country illegally should automatically be refused and sent back to their country of origin.
How can we even contemplate people whose first action in this country is to break the law?
What are they running from in France? They’re not coming here because they’re scared for their lives. They’re coming here because they’re usually already criminals, 18-50 year old men and know they can game the system. Hence why they have no qualms in breaking our laws on arrival.
Any woman with a child putting them on a dodgy boat in France is a dangerous person. Why would you risk your child’s life to flee….. France. These people are not good people, objectively.
It’s not difficult at all. If the above means breaching ‘international law’ then so be it. Self harm isn’t and shouldn’t be tolerated for the sake of outdated practices, not fit for purpose in modern, unprecedented times. | | | |
| More stabbings on 09:49 - Sep 5 with 425 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 09:28 - Sep 5 by DaPs166 |
Anyone coming to this country illegally should automatically be refused and sent back to their country of origin.
How can we even contemplate people whose first action in this country is to break the law?
What are they running from in France? They’re not coming here because they’re scared for their lives. They’re coming here because they’re usually already criminals, 18-50 year old men and know they can game the system. Hence why they have no qualms in breaking our laws on arrival.
Any woman with a child putting them on a dodgy boat in France is a dangerous person. Why would you risk your child’s life to flee….. France. These people are not good people, objectively.
It’s not difficult at all. If the above means breaching ‘international law’ then so be it. Self harm isn’t and shouldn’t be tolerated for the sake of outdated practices, not fit for purpose in modern, unprecedented times. |
They're coming here because they can hide in the grey Labour market or they have people who currently work in the grey labour market who will look after them. | | | |
| More stabbings on 09:52 - Sep 5 with 419 views | onehunglow |
| More stabbings on 09:12 - Sep 5 by Boundy |
The so called experts and betters ( because that's what they believe to be ) are insulated from all this shi* and this is why is there no will to stop scum like this is because too many of them listen to arse wipes like this who protest when the mere suggestion of dental checks be used to determine the age of some low life goat herder best suited to be 6 feet under the ground than to live amongst us .
The British Dental association strongly opposed the reintroduction of such checks because it believes that it was inappropriate and unethical to subject people to radiation when there is no health benefit for them. " X-rays taken for a clinically justified reason must not be used for another purpose without the patient's informed consent and must be carried out without coercion and in full knowledge of how the radiograph will be used and by whom." |
Let’s be frank
Many musing about asylum seekers are living in areas bit affected by these chancers.
They opine from a position of total ignorance
It’s like somebody from deepest rural Wales offering expert analysis of the cultural revolution in the likes of Bradford .
It’s almost like wealthy legal chaos making huge living out of feral rats from crap holes . Ordinarily ,they wouldn’t p on them if on fire | |
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| More stabbings on 09:54 - Sep 5 with 416 views | onehunglow |
| More stabbings on 09:28 - Sep 5 by DaPs166 |
Anyone coming to this country illegally should automatically be refused and sent back to their country of origin.
How can we even contemplate people whose first action in this country is to break the law?
What are they running from in France? They’re not coming here because they’re scared for their lives. They’re coming here because they’re usually already criminals, 18-50 year old men and know they can game the system. Hence why they have no qualms in breaking our laws on arrival.
Any woman with a child putting them on a dodgy boat in France is a dangerous person. Why would you risk your child’s life to flee….. France. These people are not good people, objectively.
It’s not difficult at all. If the above means breaching ‘international law’ then so be it. Self harm isn’t and shouldn’t be tolerated for the sake of outdated practices, not fit for purpose in modern, unprecedented times. |
Brilliant posting
Absolutely as it is
Everyone should read this and reflect | |
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| More stabbings on 10:29 - Sep 5 with 397 views | union_jack |
Until, and only then, we as a country change our stance in so-called human rights we will have this problem.
The example above citing the BDA’s reluctance to x-ray people against their will is preposterous. You want to come here, you jump through the hoops we tell you to, no bleeding it’s against your human rights,
Of course, all this costs money and requires a tough approach other countries are considering but is apparent beneath us!
And sending them to countries such as Rwanda is never going to work. As soon as they get there, they will be planning a way back and the problem won’t go away.
Dear God, we have the best defence of all in this country. A defence even the might if the German army couldn’t breach. 22 miles of water!!! They shouldn’t be getting within 10 miles of our coast and should be forced, by whatever means necessary, back to the shores of mainland Europe. |  |
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| More stabbings on 10:35 - Sep 5 with 395 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 07:57 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn |
Could this man have been deported though? We do not have a returns agreement with Afghanistan and there seems no prospect of one with the Taliban in charge. Germany announced last month that it would break EU ranks by starting deportations of criminals to Afghanistan, and was promptly criticized by Amnesty International for collaborating with the Taliban. Germany is also considering getting third countries to take refused asylum seekers or deportees. and this suggests that a Rwanda-type option is not entirely discredited. Without a way of removing a person from the UK, the speed of processing makes little difference (although obviously the faster the better on other grounds).
Too many people, mainly self-identified progressives, refuse to acknowledge that there will be collateral damage. A few years ago I wrote to the BBC complaining about a comment from John Pienaar saying that no British person had been killed by a refugee, and giving a couple of examples. Unusually, I got a response that relayed on a message from Pienaar saying the number was tiny and in effect that the exception proved the rule that there was no real risk. I heard him saying something similar about problems being exaggerated on Times Radio just last week. [Post edited 5 Sep 9:00]
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But the point is he was not assessed. If he was assessed all sorts of red flags would have been raised and he could have been dealt with appropriately.
He didn't get in to the country without the authorities knowing, he was discovered and finger printed but nothing further happened.
He wasn't properly assessed almost certainly due to austerity and associated cuts.
It should be realtively straight forward to deal with illegal immigrants. Try to stop them coming (nothing has been done, yet), stop them working illegally (nothing has been done, yet), process them (timeline for processing has got far worse) then get rid of them or allow them to work legally.
The home office should have been given funds to do this not have resources stripped from towards a hair brained deportation scheme.
Threatening to send them to Africa was never going to work for loads of reasons but it got some headlines. | | | |
| More stabbings on 10:47 - Sep 5 with 375 views | AnotherJohn |
| More stabbings on 10:35 - Sep 5 by Scotia |
But the point is he was not assessed. If he was assessed all sorts of red flags would have been raised and he could have been dealt with appropriately.
He didn't get in to the country without the authorities knowing, he was discovered and finger printed but nothing further happened.
He wasn't properly assessed almost certainly due to austerity and associated cuts.
It should be realtively straight forward to deal with illegal immigrants. Try to stop them coming (nothing has been done, yet), stop them working illegally (nothing has been done, yet), process them (timeline for processing has got far worse) then get rid of them or allow them to work legally.
The home office should have been given funds to do this not have resources stripped from towards a hair brained deportation scheme.
Threatening to send them to Africa was never going to work for loads of reasons but it got some headlines. |
I was just picking up the point about deportation, and asking whether it was really an option. Yes, this man should have been properly assessed, but that would take place at the point of entry rather than the later processing of the asylum claim. It seems there was an assessment, but it lacked sufficient depth even to determine he was older than 13. You don't address the issue of what to do if a migrant is assessed as dangerous but isn't from a country where returns are possible. Some EU countries, reportedly even Germany, are discussing use of third countries. Italy already has a processing centre in Albania that is about to come onstream. This is not exactly like Rwanda, but the general principle of using a third country to receive migrants is the same. Your remark about African countries suggests to me that you would not regard any African country as safe, which indeed is the position of some NGOs. As quite a large % of illegal migrants are Africans that would present real problems for European countries. | | | |
| More stabbings on 11:03 - Sep 5 with 339 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
We could stop illegal immigration overnight if there was the political will to do so. But the powers that be see no issue with filling the country with millions from all around the world if it drives wages down and grows the economy by a tiny percentage point. | |
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| More stabbings on 11:07 - Sep 5 with 327 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 10:29 - Sep 5 by union_jack |
Until, and only then, we as a country change our stance in so-called human rights we will have this problem.
The example above citing the BDA’s reluctance to x-ray people against their will is preposterous. You want to come here, you jump through the hoops we tell you to, no bleeding it’s against your human rights,
Of course, all this costs money and requires a tough approach other countries are considering but is apparent beneath us!
And sending them to countries such as Rwanda is never going to work. As soon as they get there, they will be planning a way back and the problem won’t go away.
Dear God, we have the best defence of all in this country. A defence even the might if the German army couldn’t breach. 22 miles of water!!! They shouldn’t be getting within 10 miles of our coast and should be forced, by whatever means necessary, back to the shores of mainland Europe. |
But where do force them back too? They've left those countries they are no longer their responsibility, unless we track each vessel we don't know if they've come from France, Belgium, The Netherlands or anywhere else.
Besides those coming on illegal small boats are the very tip of the immigration iceberg. | | | |
| More stabbings on 11:12 - Sep 5 with 306 views | union_jack |
| More stabbings on 11:07 - Sep 5 by Scotia |
But where do force them back too? They've left those countries they are no longer their responsibility, unless we track each vessel we don't know if they've come from France, Belgium, The Netherlands or anywhere else.
Besides those coming on illegal small boats are the very tip of the immigration iceberg. |
Well most will come from France I’d imagine as it’s the shortest route.
But don’t tell me that some surveillance can’t be implemented.
And anyway, send them all back to France. If we can’t tell where they come from then nor will the French authorities😁 | |
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| More stabbings on 11:12 - Sep 5 with 306 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 10:47 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn |
I was just picking up the point about deportation, and asking whether it was really an option. Yes, this man should have been properly assessed, but that would take place at the point of entry rather than the later processing of the asylum claim. It seems there was an assessment, but it lacked sufficient depth even to determine he was older than 13. You don't address the issue of what to do if a migrant is assessed as dangerous but isn't from a country where returns are possible. Some EU countries, reportedly even Germany, are discussing use of third countries. Italy already has a processing centre in Albania that is about to come onstream. This is not exactly like Rwanda, but the general principle of using a third country to receive migrants is the same. Your remark about African countries suggests to me that you would not regard any African country as safe, which indeed is the position of some NGOs. As quite a large % of illegal migrants are Africans that would present real problems for European countries. |
I've no real issue with the use of a third country processing centre? How about France?
We should have no dangerous immigrants (or anyone else) freely patrolling our streets, but first we have to know if they're dangerous or not. Simple checks were not made in this case, I'd guess down to there not being enough people to do them. | | | |
| More stabbings on 11:27 - Sep 5 with 287 views | Scotia |
| More stabbings on 11:12 - Sep 5 by union_jack |
Well most will come from France I’d imagine as it’s the shortest route.
But don’t tell me that some surveillance can’t be implemented.
And anyway, send them all back to France. If we can’t tell where they come from then nor will the French authorities😁 |
What if when they were apprehended in the channel they said they were the Afghani Sea Angling Club from Folkestone? So claimed they had left from the UK so had to be brought back here.
I'm not being facetious but once they're on the water and away from France there isn't a great deal we can do.
That kind of surveilance would have to be done within a mile of France. It could be done but it would be up to France to do it because I really don't think they'd let us . | | | |
| More stabbings on 11:34 - Sep 5 with 267 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| More stabbings on 11:12 - Sep 5 by union_jack |
Well most will come from France I’d imagine as it’s the shortest route.
But don’t tell me that some surveillance can’t be implemented.
And anyway, send them all back to France. If we can’t tell where they come from then nor will the French authorities😁 |
If we started turning back boats then within days word would get around and people would think twice before handing over thousands of pounds for a place on the boats. They’re currently willing to pay the criminals thousands of pounds because there’s no risk apart from the journey itself. | |
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| More stabbings on 11:45 - Sep 5 with 230 views | union_jack |
| More stabbings on 11:27 - Sep 5 by Scotia |
What if when they were apprehended in the channel they said they were the Afghani Sea Angling Club from Folkestone? So claimed they had left from the UK so had to be brought back here.
I'm not being facetious but once they're on the water and away from France there isn't a great deal we can do.
That kind of surveilance would have to be done within a mile of France. It could be done but it would be up to France to do it because I really don't think they'd let us . |
I appreciate the problem with the French (and there’s a generalisation for you😂).
But I’m sure there is a way, it just seems the political will is not there and I have no idea why not. Surely, given the feeling in this country for this issue it would be a sure fire vote winner??
It’s time to take tough measures, with refugees and with our ‘friends’ across the channel. | |
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| More stabbings on 12:28 - Sep 5 with 190 views | Boundy |
| More stabbings on 11:34 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If we started turning back boats then within days word would get around and people would think twice before handing over thousands of pounds for a place on the boats. They’re currently willing to pay the criminals thousands of pounds because there’s no risk apart from the journey itself. |
Has anyone asked the question as to where the money comes from to cross the channel, say it costs £1500 per head to cross and as we know many illegals come from all over the middle east , Africa , really poor sections of society so where does this money come from I can't imagine someone from Eritrea has saved enough to make the journey from his homeland throughout europe and have enough over to hand over the dosh to Mohamed Awad, (real person who has been convicted of being a gang leader trafficking, 2 years & 8 months by the way ) | |
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| More stabbings on 12:41 - Sep 5 with 178 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| More stabbings on 11:45 - Sep 5 by union_jack |
I appreciate the problem with the French (and there’s a generalisation for you😂).
But I’m sure there is a way, it just seems the political will is not there and I have no idea why not. Surely, given the feeling in this country for this issue it would be a sure fire vote winner??
It’s time to take tough measures, with refugees and with our ‘friends’ across the channel. |
The political will isn’t there because they actively want as many people coming here as possible. They do not want to stop it. | |
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