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Winter fuel allowance 16:24 - Jul 29 with 8368 viewsraynor94

For Pensioners, is going to means tested, oh well ill have to invest in a few blankets

I don't remember this in the Labour manifesto

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Winter fuel allowance on 23:44 - Sep 5 with 974 viewsmax936

Winter fuel allowance on 21:12 - Sep 5 by Flashberryjack

Try convincing that raving lunatic Miliband. when he's finished we won't have enough energy to run a toothbrush.


He should have been put out to grass years ago.

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Winter fuel allowance on 09:07 - Sep 6 with 907 viewsSullutaCreturned

Winter fuel allowance on 19:44 - Sep 5 by max936

This Carbon Neutral/Green Energy pee's me right off its a massive con, can anyone tell me what difference we are gonna make when we produce less than 0.1 or it might even be 0.01% of carbon emissions compared to most of the other Countries, until the likes of China, Russia, India and the good old US of A plus others get their acts together its a lost cause.

We always got to be seen as leaders, we are virtually little more than a pin head on the Worlds map. its a joke and another excuse to rob the hardworking Tax Payer of yet more money


We produce less than 1% of the CO2 globally, China's output has increased year on year but even 5 years ago they were, well this,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57018837

27% of global greenhouse emissions. More than the rest of the "developed world" put together.

What we do is a fart in a big thunderstrom and makes absolutely no difference. it's a very expensive waste of money.
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Winter fuel allowance on 17:38 - Sep 6 with 850 viewsraynor94

Winter fuel allowance on 19:44 - Sep 5 by max936

This Carbon Neutral/Green Energy pee's me right off its a massive con, can anyone tell me what difference we are gonna make when we produce less than 0.1 or it might even be 0.01% of carbon emissions compared to most of the other Countries, until the likes of China, Russia, India and the good old US of A plus others get their acts together its a lost cause.

We always got to be seen as leaders, we are virtually little more than a pin head on the Worlds map. its a joke and another excuse to rob the hardworking Tax Payer of yet more money


Just stop oil don't seem to protest in China and Russia, what we contribute to carbon emissions is a storm in a tea cup compared to those 2

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Winter fuel allowance on 17:40 - Sep 6 with 835 viewsFlashberryjack

Winter fuel allowance on 23:44 - Sep 5 by max936

He should have been put out to grass years ago.


Him and David Lammy.

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Winter fuel allowance on 18:40 - Sep 6 with 791 viewsSullutaCreturned

Winter fuel allowance on 17:40 - Sep 6 by Flashberryjack

Him and David Lammy.


I've always considered Lammy to be a rabble rousing closet racist. Even worse than dianne Abbot becaue she was just useless, Lammy is dangerous.
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Winter fuel allowance on 17:33 - Sep 10 with 638 viewsAnotherJohn

Unsurprisingly the Labour Government easily won the vote to defeat the opposition motion to halt the means testing of the WFA. Only one Labour MP who had not previously been suspended over another issue voted for the opposition motion, while 52 did not vote, mainly because their absence was authorised.

Among those who voted against, meaning they supported the Labour policy, are:

Torsten Bell (Swansea West)
Carolyn Harris (Swansea East and Neath)
Stephen Kinnock (Aberafan Maesteg)
Nia Griffith (Llanelli)

Absences included:

Tonia Antoniazzi (Gower)
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Winter fuel allowance on 17:44 - Sep 10 with 620 viewsWhiterockin

Winter fuel allowance on 17:33 - Sep 10 by AnotherJohn

Unsurprisingly the Labour Government easily won the vote to defeat the opposition motion to halt the means testing of the WFA. Only one Labour MP who had not previously been suspended over another issue voted for the opposition motion, while 52 did not vote, mainly because their absence was authorised.

Among those who voted against, meaning they supported the Labour policy, are:

Torsten Bell (Swansea West)
Carolyn Harris (Swansea East and Neath)
Stephen Kinnock (Aberafan Maesteg)
Nia Griffith (Llanelli)

Absences included:

Tonia Antoniazzi (Gower)


Maybe local pensioners who have lost their WFA and will struggle should visit their local surgery and ask their MP wtf they were thinking about. I firmly believe if MPs, many new to the job realised that they would get a rough ride from their constituents, they would think more carefully before making stupid decisions.
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Winter fuel allowance on 17:48 - Sep 10 with 597 viewsonehunglow

Missus was at a support centre today and talk is the Givt are considering scrapping free prescriptions
Yeah baby, kill pensioners or make the bustards pay .
And no plans to hammer those who can afford to take a financial hit
Despicable shower

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Winter fuel allowance on 18:10 - Sep 10 with 569 viewsAnotherJohn

Winter fuel allowance on 17:44 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin

Maybe local pensioners who have lost their WFA and will struggle should visit their local surgery and ask their MP wtf they were thinking about. I firmly believe if MPs, many new to the job realised that they would get a rough ride from their constituents, they would think more carefully before making stupid decisions.


Bell's Facebook page contains a few negative messages, but not a peep from him about WFA and the way he cast his vote. One of the main recent items he has posted features him holding up a "Refugees are welcome here" sign in a vigil in town outside McDonalds. Perhaps shows where his priorities lie.
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Winter fuel allowance on 08:18 - Sep 13 with 396 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Starmer has claimed his government has done no assessment on the effects of his decision to cut WFA to 10 million pensioners, especially the most vulnerable who may be unable to afford to heat their homes adequately this winter.

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Winter fuel allowance on 09:37 - Sep 13 with 359 viewsAnotherJohn

Winter fuel allowance on 08:18 - Sep 13 by felixstowe_jack

Starmer has claimed his government has done no assessment on the effects of his decision to cut WFA to 10 million pensioners, especially the most vulnerable who may be unable to afford to heat their homes adequately this winter.


At face value, the absence of an impact assessment seems at odds with expected practice when new legislation is introduced.

https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/4986/impact-assessment/

However, the change is being made in the form of secondary legislation, meaning via the introduction of a regulation using powers granted under existing primary legislation (the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 and other related social security Acts). The regulation is: The Social Fund Winter Fuel Payment (Amendment) Regulations 2024.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2024/869/introduction/made

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/changes-to-winter-fuel-payments-the-social-fu

The Government will probably argue that as no new Bill is involved, then no impact assessment is necessary. Even so, this will be unusual and highly controversial. Some will say the Government is showing a cavalier disregard for a process that Labour itself has used to hold the last Government to account on many occasions.
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Winter fuel allowance on 20:56 - Sep 14 with 181 viewsAnotherJohn

The optics are getting even worse. The critics say the Government tried to mitigate the effects of a FOI request by slipping out their response on a Friday night. An equality analysis is less comprehensive than an impact assessment. The impact of curtailing the WFA still looks awful, especially for older disabled people.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/government-accused-of-trying-to-hide-horri
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Winter fuel allowance on 22:36 - Sep 14 with 123 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 20:18 - Jul 29 by Johnw102

Rachel Reeves is axing winter fuel payments for pensioners, in the hope that the cold will kill off thousands of them and save the new government a fortune in pension payments.


Labour has always had contempt for pensioners
They tend to vote Tory, apparently and don’t protest. The buggers just get in with life
The bustards

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