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Winter fuel allowance 16:24 - Jul 29 with 8372 viewsraynor94

For Pensioners, is going to means tested, oh well ill have to invest in a few blankets

I don't remember this in the Labour manifesto

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Winter fuel allowance on 21:19 - Jul 29 with 936 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Winter fuel allowance on 20:28 - Jul 29 by Boundy

The " books " have openly been available for scrutiny for months if not years and all of a sudden this , great for the doctors who imo deserve a decent rise but then again who doesn't ,nurses support staff etc. We are now seeing a glimpse of the future with the Autumn statement still to come then I predict more misery put upon an already fed up country with the thought that there's at least 5 year ahead .


The Government spends £1,200 Billion each year, £20 Billion is not significant when you consider the impact of a change in global interest rates fir example. The Government has also increased spending by £24 Billion since the election.

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Winter fuel allowance on 21:31 - Jul 29 with 914 viewsLuther27

Winter fuel allowance on 17:56 - Jul 29 by onehunglow

They are a tiny majority
It’s not the reason for Reeves doing this
What about those on modest incomes who are just above the threshold ,the mugs who worked all their lives,saved as best they could and tried to provide for their old age
Labour hitting those who never complain,again
Lesson is,don’t work meter,have loads of kids, get on the benefit bandwagon and keep at it.
The State will provide your care in a Home too,whilst the mugs sell their terraced house to pay £ 1500 per week to have chicken nuggets for tea .

Labour .
Again


A lot of honesty in that post which sums up the situation my parents are in.

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Winter fuel allowance on 09:38 - Jul 30 with 787 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 21:31 - Jul 29 by Luther27

A lot of honesty in that post which sums up the situation my parents are in.


Care for the aged,a non political organisation say many will choose between eat or heat
This under a Labour government

And this is overdue?

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Winter fuel allowance on 09:43 - Jul 30 with 786 viewsBoundy

Winter fuel allowance on 09:38 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

Care for the aged,a non political organisation say many will choose between eat or heat
This under a Labour government

And this is overdue?


Next will be at least 10p per litre on fuel ( including heating oil) ,funny nothing being said from the red side , although I suppose they're not feeling like crowing I suppose.

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Winter fuel allowance on 09:48 - Jul 30 with 771 viewsGwyn737

Winter fuel allowance on 09:43 - Jul 30 by Boundy

Next will be at least 10p per litre on fuel ( including heating oil) ,funny nothing being said from the red side , although I suppose they're not feeling like crowing I suppose.


I’m not sure if the timings are linked, but there were quite a few stories earlier in the week about profiteering by petrol stations by artificially inflating their margins.

It could be that by increasing tax on fuels the cost could be swallowed by the sellers.

I’m ever the optimist!
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Winter fuel allowance on 11:53 - Jul 30 with 724 viewsmajorraglan

Winter fuel allowance on 09:48 - Jul 30 by Gwyn737

I’m not sure if the timings are linked, but there were quite a few stories earlier in the week about profiteering by petrol stations by artificially inflating their margins.

It could be that by increasing tax on fuels the cost could be swallowed by the sellers.

I’m ever the optimist!


The CMA were warned that allowing mergers and acquisitions of some of the bigger petrol retailers and supermarkets would result in higher prices, they acknowledged it but still let it happen. As a results profiteering has increased significantly.

Previously, independents were always more expensive than supermarkets garages, now it’s the other way round! Something isn’t right.
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Winter fuel allowance on 12:58 - Jul 30 with 690 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 09:43 - Jul 30 by Boundy

Next will be at least 10p per litre on fuel ( including heating oil) ,funny nothing being said from the red side , although I suppose they're not feeling like crowing I suppose.


They will kill many of those who voted for them
I just wished the Tories had had a backbone to truly address the issues in the country
Gender legislation and other drivel are not priorities.

Johnson May and Truss are responsible for this for turning Tory voters to vote Labour

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Winter fuel allowance on 13:00 - Jul 30 with 689 viewsonehunglow

The very “ poor” and the very rich will be ok,as they always are.
It’s the poor buggers in the middle that hammered and hammered they will be

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Winter fuel allowance on 13:11 - Jul 30 with 667 viewscontroversial_jack

Winter fuel allowance on 13:00 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

The very “ poor” and the very rich will be ok,as they always are.
It’s the poor buggers in the middle that hammered and hammered they will be


I guess i'm in the middle like many in here. I had the winter fuel allowance, but I didn't really need it and shouldn't have had it.
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Winter fuel allowance on 13:17 - Jul 30 with 670 viewsglanmORJa_k

Winter fuel allowance on 09:48 - Jul 30 by Gwyn737

I’m not sure if the timings are linked, but there were quite a few stories earlier in the week about profiteering by petrol stations by artificially inflating their margins.

It could be that by increasing tax on fuels the cost could be swallowed by the sellers.

I’m ever the optimist!


Supermarket petrol stations have been accused time and time again since covid, all the Ombudsman(if there is one) who should be regulating the price of oil especially if the price of a barrel of oil is continually low is force supermarket prices down by a couple of pence and then it slowly rises again no doubt encouraged by the Just stop oil zealots.
For oil read the closed shop of the water utility companys who continue unabated to poison river and sea life.
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Winter fuel allowance on 13:25 - Jul 30 with 661 viewsRobbie

Will probably be means tested myself and will not be eligiable for the allowance .
Luckily for me it will be no big deal and I can take the hit , others will need it of course .

What really grinds my gears are able bodied people capable of working a full week instead opting to do the minimum 16 hrs per week then using the benefits system to get a top up .
Quite open in admitting it too .

Will their financies be looked into as much as mine .
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Winter fuel allowance on 13:28 - Jul 30 with 651 viewsunion_jack

Should not be taken off those who already receive it imo. The same should have applied to the free TV Licence. Just let them taper off, the amount paid out would not be onerous and ever decreasing of course.

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Winter fuel allowance on 13:29 - Jul 30 with 650 viewsJohnw102

Instead of cutting out the winter fuel allowance, they kick all the illegals out of the 5* accommodation they live in. Paid SFA into the system taking £millions out.

Never knew getting old would happen so quick!

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Winter fuel allowance on 13:32 - Jul 30 with 645 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 21:12 - Jul 29 by union_jack

That thought, cynical as it is was the first thing that entered my head!


Pensioners less likely to vote Labour.
This is the way ordinary people they call them ) are treated

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Winter fuel allowance on 13:46 - Jul 30 with 639 viewsScotia

Winter fuel allowance on 13:00 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

The very “ poor” and the very rich will be ok,as they always are.
It’s the poor buggers in the middle that hammered and hammered they will be


I agree.

My mother in law, would be considered the very poor. Gets all sorts of benefits now has barely worked in her life, has money in different savings accounts (not in her name) to keep under the benefits savings threshold and will still get the winter fuel allowance.

My parents who both worked full time their entire lives won't get it any longer.

A benefits clamp down is desperately needed and would save billions.

I hope this is just the start.
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Winter fuel allowance on 13:58 - Jul 30 with 618 viewsraynor94

Winter fuel allowance on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Scotia

I agree.

My mother in law, would be considered the very poor. Gets all sorts of benefits now has barely worked in her life, has money in different savings accounts (not in her name) to keep under the benefits savings threshold and will still get the winter fuel allowance.

My parents who both worked full time their entire lives won't get it any longer.

A benefits clamp down is desperately needed and would save billions.

I hope this is just the start.


Sorry with respect you posted earlier they didn't need the fuel allowance.

But I 100% agree with you on the benefits clampdown, I worked for 42 years and haven't claimed a penny, and find it galling to see some claiming everything who haven't worked a day in their life

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Winter fuel allowance on 14:02 - Jul 30 with 611 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 13:58 - Jul 30 by raynor94

Sorry with respect you posted earlier they didn't need the fuel allowance.

But I 100% agree with you on the benefits clampdown, I worked for 42 years and haven't claimed a penny, and find it galling to see some claiming everything who haven't worked a day in their life


It’s a culture .
I will repeat.
Those at the bottom of the food chain ,will always be fed ,clothed and housed no matter what they bleat .
Those at the top have already the resources to self provide with comfort.
Pity the not that poor and not that rich

80% of the country

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Winter fuel allowance on 16:06 - Jul 30 with 557 viewsBoundy

Winter fuel allowance on 13:17 - Jul 30 by glanmORJa_k

Supermarket petrol stations have been accused time and time again since covid, all the Ombudsman(if there is one) who should be regulating the price of oil especially if the price of a barrel of oil is continually low is force supermarket prices down by a couple of pence and then it slowly rises again no doubt encouraged by the Just stop oil zealots.
For oil read the closed shop of the water utility companys who continue unabated to poison river and sea life.


It appears ifs not just a UK problem , I noticed the prices in Spain are comparable to our greedy lot.

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Winter fuel allowance on 16:14 - Jul 30 with 553 viewsGwyn737

Winter fuel allowance on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Scotia

I agree.

My mother in law, would be considered the very poor. Gets all sorts of benefits now has barely worked in her life, has money in different savings accounts (not in her name) to keep under the benefits savings threshold and will still get the winter fuel allowance.

My parents who both worked full time their entire lives won't get it any longer.

A benefits clamp down is desperately needed and would save billions.

I hope this is just the start.


If this was younger people, they’d just be told to stop buying Starbucks and cancel Netflix.

I’ll keep banging the drum, a child in the UK is three times more likely to be living in poverty than a pensioner.

I hope this government is seriously about levelling up. The last lot weren’t.
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Winter fuel allowance on 16:19 - Jul 30 with 545 viewsGwyn737

Winter fuel allowance on 20:11 - Jul 29 by Dr_Winston

There is no "£20bn hole". The figures have been available from the OBR for months. It's just a Labour excuse to raise taxes whilst simultaneously blaming the Tories and their supporters are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

Meanwhile, despite this apparent huge gap in National finances, more than £11bn has been pledged in overseas climate change aid, and Doctors have been offered a payrise in excess of 20% with no concessions required.


The OBR have launched a review of its own report on the previous government's spring Budget because it was based on Tory spending plans.

They’ve already identified £6 billion not accounted for as a cost for accommodation for asylum seekers (I assume this because Rwanda was going to solve it all).

I mentioned in another thread the hidden £5 billion off the books for SEND funding.

There £11 billion missing for starters.
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Winter fuel allowance on 16:20 - Jul 30 with 541 viewstrampie

Winter fuel allowance on 16:14 - Jul 30 by Gwyn737

If this was younger people, they’d just be told to stop buying Starbucks and cancel Netflix.

I’ll keep banging the drum, a child in the UK is three times more likely to be living in poverty than a pensioner.

I hope this government is seriously about levelling up. The last lot weren’t.


This lot are the same as the last lot they are only interested in looking after themselves and the elites, maybe to a slightly less degree but they are the same, they kicked out all the socialists that should give you a good idea what they are about.

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Winter fuel allowance on 16:28 - Jul 30 with 532 viewscontroversial_jack

Winter fuel allowance on 13:58 - Jul 30 by raynor94

Sorry with respect you posted earlier they didn't need the fuel allowance.

But I 100% agree with you on the benefits clampdown, I worked for 42 years and haven't claimed a penny, and find it galling to see some claiming everything who haven't worked a day in their life


You and I are part of the fortunate generations. Many today will not get the opportunities that we did.Be thankful for what you had. If you were young today you probably wouldn't get the same opportunities. A job for life won't happen again.
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Winter fuel allowance on 16:29 - Jul 30 with 534 viewsraynor94

Winter fuel allowance on 16:14 - Jul 30 by Gwyn737

If this was younger people, they’d just be told to stop buying Starbucks and cancel Netflix.

I’ll keep banging the drum, a child in the UK is three times more likely to be living in poverty than a pensioner.

I hope this government is seriously about levelling up. The last lot weren’t.


Sorry Gwyn I agree with most things you post, but I can't with your second paragraph.

Far to many feckless parents who should never be allowed to have children, head to foot in tattoos vaping and then moaning about how they are going to feed their brood.

Swansea Town centre is an eye opener

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Winter fuel allowance on 16:49 - Jul 30 with 513 viewsonehunglow

Winter fuel allowance on 16:29 - Jul 30 by raynor94

Sorry Gwyn I agree with most things you post, but I can't with your second paragraph.

Far to many feckless parents who should never be allowed to have children, head to foot in tattoos vaping and then moaning about how they are going to feed their brood.

Swansea Town centre is an eye opener


It’s really quite simple
Have children ONLY when able to care for them. That means ,if the State can’t or won’t,you do.
Kids are parents responsibility ,not the states

It is right across our island Ray,from Aberdeen to Aberdare .

We have lost our way


I don’t see why I should pay for others to have kids with no intention at all of providing for them themselves

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Winter fuel allowance on 16:54 - Jul 30 with 513 viewsBoundy

Winter fuel allowance on 16:49 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

It’s really quite simple
Have children ONLY when able to care for them. That means ,if the State can’t or won’t,you do.
Kids are parents responsibility ,not the states

It is right across our island Ray,from Aberdeen to Aberdare .

We have lost our way


I don’t see why I should pay for others to have kids with no intention at all of providing for them themselves


This ,we had 3 children and each one was born at a time where we could afford them ,never ever considered relying on the state to care for their needs.Tax credits wtf all we had was family allowance and me working all hours to ensure they had a decent happy upbringing.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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