| Tourists go home . 09:29 - Jul 23 with 3170 views | onehunglow |
Well,should we.
Should we leave them alone to get on with their lives without our money .
They could then afford the housing they can’t now.
Yeah,stay at home .
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| Tourists go home . on 10:08 - Jul 23 with 1710 views | sw02sea |
It’s only a matter of time before they either raise or introduce a tourist tax, to any Spanish country.
If the locals can’t afford to live in their own country, that’s a recipe for political suicide. | | | |
| Tourists go home . on 10:10 - Jul 23 with 1705 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 10:08 - Jul 23 by sw02sea |
It’s only a matter of time before they either raise or introduce a tourist tax, to any Spanish country.
If the locals can’t afford to live in their own country, that’s a recipe for political suicide. |
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Without tourists however ,they have no economy .
Not everyone in Tenerife can have an Orange grove.
If they do ,then they need a market to sell their wares
Chuck in restaurants,cafes ,hotels jobs and there you have it . | |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:14 - Jul 23 with 1701 views | Whiterockin |
| Tourists go home . on 10:10 - Jul 23 by onehunglow |
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Without tourists however ,they have no economy .
Not everyone in Tenerife can have an Orange grove.
If they do ,then they need a market to sell their wares
Chuck in restaurants,cafes ,hotels jobs and there you have it . |
They will go back to being starving peasants as they were before tourists. Can't afford a house, they won't be able to afford to eat. Short memories on some, pure idealism for others. There has to be a balance. |  | | |
| Tourists go home . on 10:22 - Jul 23 with 1690 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 10:14 - Jul 23 by Whiterockin |
They will go back to being starving peasants as they were before tourists. Can't afford a house, they won't be able to afford to eat. Short memories on some, pure idealism for others. There has to be a balance. |
In Franco times Spain was divided shockingly and dirt poor.
Francis death saw tourism boom,as religious intolerance of the bikini became less profound and ladies were given more freedom .
Spain,like it or not, outside the biggest cities needs tourists .millions of jobs gone overnight. Covid should have been a portent of what it would be like without tourists . Greeks appreciate tourists more ,clearly . The country was bankrupt and needed them back
Spain is on a hiding to nothing | |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:40 - Jul 23 with 1666 views | Boundy |
| Tourists go home . on 10:08 - Jul 23 by sw02sea |
It’s only a matter of time before they either raise or introduce a tourist tax, to any Spanish country.
If the locals can’t afford to live in their own country, that’s a recipe for political suicide. |
Tourist tax already exists in Spain ,coming to Wales shortly . | |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:49 - Jul 23 with 1650 views | raynor94 |
| Tourists go home . on 10:08 - Jul 23 by sw02sea |
It’s only a matter of time before they either raise or introduce a tourist tax, to any Spanish country.
If the locals can’t afford to live in their own country, that’s a recipe for political suicide. |
You have tourist tax in Greece, and it's only a few euros a night.
Speaking from experience of many years, I find the Greeks far more welcoming than the Spanish. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 11:24 - Jul 23 with 1606 views | builthjack |
| Tourists go home . on 10:49 - Jul 23 by raynor94 |
You have tourist tax in Greece, and it's only a few euros a night.
Speaking from experience of many years, I find the Greeks far more welcoming than the Spanish. |
Tourist tax is already in place in most of Europe. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 12:47 - Jul 23 with 1590 views | sw02sea |
That why I said raise it (or introduce it)
Keep up. | | | |
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| Tourists go home . on 13:23 - Jul 23 with 1580 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 10:49 - Jul 23 by raynor94 |
You have tourist tax in Greece, and it's only a few euros a night.
Speaking from experience of many years, I find the Greeks far more welcoming than the Spanish. |
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They are lovely people | |
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| Tourists go home . on 13:30 - Jul 23 with 1565 views | union_jack |
We must understand that the locals are concerned with OVERtourism not tourism itself.
I don’t think they have an issue with the Magaluf crowd (I would!) but more the purchasing if hoses to rent out to tourists making buying properties out of range financially.
It’s understandable. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 13:43 - Jul 23 with 1559 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Tourists go home . on 10:40 - Jul 23 by Boundy |
Tourist tax already exists in Spain ,coming to Wales shortly . |
Yes I paid it in the Balearics for sure. They called it an " environment protection tax".
I had no objections. If Wales do it gave jo objection either if It funded to environmental protection causes. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 15:41 - Jul 23 with 1504 views | Boundy |
| Tourists go home . on 13:43 - Jul 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Yes I paid it in the Balearics for sure. They called it an " environment protection tax".
I had no objections. If Wales do it gave jo objection either if It funded to environmental protection causes. |
What environmental protection causes would they be ? | |
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| Tourists go home . on 16:13 - Jul 23 with 1485 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 15:41 - Jul 23 by Boundy |
What environmental protection causes would they be ? |
Looking at the horrific advertisement hoardings in Spain,not much | |
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| Tourists go home . on 18:30 - Jul 23 with 1427 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Tourists go home . on 10:49 - Jul 23 by raynor94 |
You have tourist tax in Greece, and it's only a few euros a night.
Speaking from experience of many years, I find the Greeks far more welcoming than the Spanish. |
yeah us too, we went to Northern Spain and the difference in Greece was palpable. Much friendlier, nicer, more helpful. | | | |
| Tourists go home . on 18:46 - Jul 23 with 1400 views | Flashberryjack |
| Tourists go home . on 18:30 - Jul 23 by SullutaCreturned |
yeah us too, we went to Northern Spain and the difference in Greece was palpable. Much friendlier, nicer, more helpful. |
Haven't been to Spain for years, prefer to go to counties with a better service at restaurants and hotels. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 20:15 - Jul 23 with 1329 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 18:46 - Jul 23 by Flashberryjack |
Haven't been to Spain for years, prefer to go to counties with a better service at restaurants and hotels. |
The prevailing attitude in Spain,imo,is similar to Caribbean
ThecFrench are actually more engaging | |
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| Tourists go home . on 20:22 - Jul 23 with 1328 views | majorraglan |
| Tourists go home . on 13:43 - Jul 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Yes I paid it in the Balearics for sure. They called it an " environment protection tax".
I had no objections. If Wales do it gave jo objection either if It funded to environmental protection causes. |
I was in the Balearics last week and we didn’t experience any animosity towards tourists, in fact the Spanish we spoke to were all very welcoming and friendly. I happened to look in an estate agents window while we were there and property prices in the place we were staying were very high, so 8 can see why the young are aggrieved.
There is a tourist tax and what you pay varies on where you stay. It starts at €1 per person per night for camping and Lodi g and goes up to €4 pppn for your top end luxury hotel. Most tourists will pay €2 or €3 euros pppn which is around the price of a pint.
Many parts of Europe now charge and the WG was looking to do something similar, whether it still intends to I have no idea.
The young people of Majorca face exactly the same problems as the youngsters in Cornwall, Devon, Norfolk, Gwynedd, Pembrokeshire and many other places - they are priced off the property market.
A sensible balance striking a compromise between the needs of all parties is what’s required, whether that can be achieved though I’m not sure. | | | |
| Tourists go home . on 09:54 - Jul 24 with 1176 views | controversial_jack |
It's all they have to do is put a ban on foreigners buying property there | | | |
| Tourists go home . on 22:34 - Jul 24 with 1107 views | majorraglan |
| Tourists go home . on 09:54 - Jul 24 by controversial_jack |
It's all they have to do is put a ban on foreigners buying property there |
Not sure they can do that, there is EU legislation in existence which safeguards the right of EU citizens to move capital around and make investments, they could if they wanted to stop non eu citizens buying property, but not your Germans, French, Dutch etc. | | | |
| Tourists go home . on 22:41 - Jul 24 with 1084 views | builthjack |
| Tourists go home . on 20:22 - Jul 23 by majorraglan |
I was in the Balearics last week and we didn’t experience any animosity towards tourists, in fact the Spanish we spoke to were all very welcoming and friendly. I happened to look in an estate agents window while we were there and property prices in the place we were staying were very high, so 8 can see why the young are aggrieved.
There is a tourist tax and what you pay varies on where you stay. It starts at €1 per person per night for camping and Lodi g and goes up to €4 pppn for your top end luxury hotel. Most tourists will pay €2 or €3 euros pppn which is around the price of a pint.
Many parts of Europe now charge and the WG was looking to do something similar, whether it still intends to I have no idea.
The young people of Majorca face exactly the same problems as the youngsters in Cornwall, Devon, Norfolk, Gwynedd, Pembrokeshire and many other places - they are priced off the property market.
A sensible balance striking a compromise between the needs of all parties is what’s required, whether that can be achieved though I’m not sure. |
Most youngsters can’t buy a house in my area as they are too expensive. Caused by older English folk moving in from southern England. I can’t blame the English oldies as they get to live in a lovely area. But do feel sorry for youngsters having to pay stupid rent prices with no chance of ever owning unless they are given or left money, or win the football pools. | |
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| Tourists go home . on 08:55 - Jul 25 with 1032 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Tourists go home . on 22:41 - Jul 24 by builthjack |
Most youngsters can’t buy a house in my area as they are too expensive. Caused by older English folk moving in from southern England. I can’t blame the English oldies as they get to live in a lovely area. But do feel sorry for youngsters having to pay stupid rent prices with no chance of ever owning unless they are given or left money, or win the football pools. |
Of course no Welshman ever goes on holiday to anywhere in England or Scotland. | |
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| Tourists go home . on 08:58 - Jul 25 with 1031 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 08:55 - Jul 25 by felixstowe_jack |
Of course no Welshman ever goes on holiday to anywhere in England or Scotland. |
The A55 is all the evidence you need Felix.
Westbound traffic goes to spend ,eastbound goes to earn | |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:26 - Jul 25 with 984 views | KeithHaynes |
| Tourists go home . on 18:46 - Jul 23 by Flashberryjack |
Haven't been to Spain for years, prefer to go to counties with a better service at restaurants and hotels. |
It can be hit and miss, but outside of the tourist spots it’s ok. Just the overall attitude is very poor. |  |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:32 - Jul 25 with 980 views | onehunglow |
| Tourists go home . on 10:26 - Jul 25 by KeithHaynes |
It can be hit and miss, but outside of the tourist spots it’s ok. Just the overall attitude is very poor. |
Greeks are good Keith but paying separately fir air con is cheeky | |
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| Tourists go home . on 10:47 - Jul 25 with 963 views | Boundy |
| Tourists go home . on 22:41 - Jul 24 by builthjack |
Most youngsters can’t buy a house in my area as they are too expensive. Caused by older English folk moving in from southern England. I can’t blame the English oldies as they get to live in a lovely area. But do feel sorry for youngsters having to pay stupid rent prices with no chance of ever owning unless they are given or left money, or win the football pools. |
It's not exclusive ,it's quite noticeable in Swansea that a lot ( as did in the late 80s) have moved this way ,for a number of reasons of which I can't blame them . | |
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