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George Floyd - The Truth 11:47 - Jul 17 with 4787 viewsunion_jack

Stumbled upon this independently made documentary of the death of George Floyd and it’s worth watching (though quite long).
What a travesty of justice and abuse of justice this has been. If you’ve got the time, watch it and you’ll see it in a completely different light if you don’t already.


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George Floyd - The Truth on 18:10 - Jul 17 with 1084 viewsSullutaCreturned

George Floyd - The Truth on 13:43 - Jul 17 by Scotia

I wouldn't.


yet we know the woman at the head of BLM was in it for the money and the whole organisation has been discredited.

We all believe what we want to believe and we can all be fooled, even usually trustworthy sources get it wrong sometimes.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 07:45 - Jul 18 with 1013 viewsmajorraglan

George Floyd - The Truth on 13:17 - Jul 17 by Scotia

I've seen enough to know it's not independent and quite possibly / probably not the truth but somebodies biased version of it.

It's made by a bunch of right wing republicans who are know for mosting conspiracies and propganda.

What have you seen in it to make you think it's firstly independent and secondly the truth?


You’re not wrong. The below is the summary and headline from one of the media bias checking organisations reports on Alpha News.

Overall, we rate Alpha News Questionable based on extreme right bias, poor sourcing of information, promotion of conspiracy theories, and anti-Islamic propaganda, as well as a lack of transparency regarding ownership.

Detailed Report

Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Anti-Islam, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
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George Floyd - The Truth on 09:09 - Jul 18 with 978 viewsAnotherJohn

George Floyd - The Truth on 07:45 - Jul 18 by majorraglan

You’re not wrong. The below is the summary and headline from one of the media bias checking organisations reports on Alpha News.

Overall, we rate Alpha News Questionable based on extreme right bias, poor sourcing of information, promotion of conspiracy theories, and anti-Islamic propaganda, as well as a lack of transparency regarding ownership.

Detailed Report

Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Anti-Islam, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY


Some editing would be possible, but I do not think the body cam footage has been changed in any way other than selecting and pasting segments together. There was enough evidence produced at the time to tell us that Mr Floyd was not a very nice man. The clincher for me was the video of "Big George" I viewed on TheHabibShow.com. I think it has been taken down on the original website but wasn't hard to find when I checked today. The content made me wonder what Mr Floyd's many female supporters would think of his attitude towards women. Another angle not picked up in the video at the opening post is the outstanding felony arrest warrants on Morries Lester Hall, the other man in the car at the time of the incident, and the nature of his offenses (one involved possession of a firearm). He is now in Jail after being sentenced to 15 years for sex trafficking.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 09:15 - Jul 18 with 973 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 09:09 - Jul 18 by AnotherJohn

Some editing would be possible, but I do not think the body cam footage has been changed in any way other than selecting and pasting segments together. There was enough evidence produced at the time to tell us that Mr Floyd was not a very nice man. The clincher for me was the video of "Big George" I viewed on TheHabibShow.com. I think it has been taken down on the original website but wasn't hard to find when I checked today. The content made me wonder what Mr Floyd's many female supporters would think of his attitude towards women. Another angle not picked up in the video at the opening post is the outstanding felony arrest warrants on Morries Lester Hall, the other man in the car at the time of the incident, and the nature of his offenses (one involved possession of a firearm). He is now in Jail after being sentenced to 15 years for sex trafficking.
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His ethnicity is a key element
We know that but won’t admit it
Violent criminals once restrained can erupt again .
Problem is ,too many have not come face to face ,flesh to flesh with evil.
It’s either yiu or them
If you come out on top,then you ride the storm acoming

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George Floyd - The Truth on 09:20 - Jul 18 with 969 viewscontroversial_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 09:15 - Jul 18 by onehunglow

His ethnicity is a key element
We know that but won’t admit it
Violent criminals once restrained can erupt again .
Problem is ,too many have not come face to face ,flesh to flesh with evil.
It’s either yiu or them
If you come out on top,then you ride the storm acoming


I believe this guy was cuffed, restrained and on the floor, surrounded by 3 armed cops. Yes, a real danger wasn't he?
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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:32 - Jul 18 with 901 viewsunion_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 07:45 - Jul 18 by majorraglan

You’re not wrong. The below is the summary and headline from one of the media bias checking organisations reports on Alpha News.

Overall, we rate Alpha News Questionable based on extreme right bias, poor sourcing of information, promotion of conspiracy theories, and anti-Islamic propaganda, as well as a lack of transparency regarding ownership.

Detailed Report

Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Anti-Islam, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY


There we are then, no need to watch it now

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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:39 - Jul 18 with 894 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:32 - Jul 18 by union_jack

There we are then, no need to watch it now


Time to be cruel
Exactly who misses this chap,outside his family.

Is the world worse off a place after his passing

What is his legacy ?

It’s nice to leave something worthwhile and honourable behind when we pass into the dust bowl .

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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:49 - Jul 18 with 864 viewsunion_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:39 - Jul 18 by onehunglow

Time to be cruel
Exactly who misses this chap,outside his family.

Is the world worse off a place after his passing

What is his legacy ?

It’s nice to leave something worthwhile and honourable behind when we pass into the dust bowl .


Although harsh, that’s fair. But that’s not the point I’m making. I certainly wouldn’t revel in the loss of human life (hardly) ever.

The documentary shows how the whole aftermath of his death was engineered to an extent to find scapegoats and to make it look like a white police force purposefully or neglectfully killing a black man. The powers to be did nothing to calm the situation both at the time nor through the justice system afterwards where it seems cover up after cover up made the officers guilty when they possibly weren’t.

I can only repeat what I have been saying ad nauseum, people should watch it then comment. I’ll have no issues if people can put up a credible counter argument to what I believe are the facts cited in the film.

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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:52 - Jul 18 with 861 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:49 - Jul 18 by union_jack

Although harsh, that’s fair. But that’s not the point I’m making. I certainly wouldn’t revel in the loss of human life (hardly) ever.

The documentary shows how the whole aftermath of his death was engineered to an extent to find scapegoats and to make it look like a white police force purposefully or neglectfully killing a black man. The powers to be did nothing to calm the situation both at the time nor through the justice system afterwards where it seems cover up after cover up made the officers guilty when they possibly weren’t.

I can only repeat what I have been saying ad nauseum, people should watch it then comment. I’ll have no issues if people can put up a credible counter argument to what I believe are the facts cited in the film.


Not glorying in it

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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:54 - Jul 18 with 862 viewsJumpingJackFlash

This thread encapsulates one of the biggest problems facing us today and in the future.

Where do you source your information from? Most people seek out sources thatthey know will agree with their already form ed opinions thus entrenching their views.

People then become more and more polarised in tbeir views and the days of respect for other opinions and consensus politics are left further and further behind.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 01:28 - Jul 19 with 797 viewsAnotherJohn

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:54 - Jul 18 by JumpingJackFlash

This thread encapsulates one of the biggest problems facing us today and in the future.

Where do you source your information from? Most people seek out sources thatthey know will agree with their already form ed opinions thus entrenching their views.

People then become more and more polarised in tbeir views and the days of respect for other opinions and consensus politics are left further and further behind.


The other angle on this is that no single source (or portion of the news "spectrum") is sufficient to gain a full picture of controversial events. Just as GB News or the Mail will sometimes omit important bits of an overall picture, there are certain kinds of information that the Guardian and the Indy will never report. What happened with the father in the Aylan Kurdi drowning case is a good example. So not everything coming from right wing sources can be discounted, especially if there is corroboration from video evidence or other sources. I think UJ has a point about the misleading hagiography constructed around GF, and that it may indeed have affected the legal process.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 09:06 - Jul 19 with 750 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:49 - Jul 18 by union_jack

Although harsh, that’s fair. But that’s not the point I’m making. I certainly wouldn’t revel in the loss of human life (hardly) ever.

The documentary shows how the whole aftermath of his death was engineered to an extent to find scapegoats and to make it look like a white police force purposefully or neglectfully killing a black man. The powers to be did nothing to calm the situation both at the time nor through the justice system afterwards where it seems cover up after cover up made the officers guilty when they possibly weren’t.

I can only repeat what I have been saying ad nauseum, people should watch it then comment. I’ll have no issues if people can put up a credible counter argument to what I believe are the facts cited in the film.


Facing exceptionally violent men isn’t comfortable . drugs means they are sometimes drawing on unknown ,unnatural strength . I am lucky to be still here .
It is about self preservation. You or them. Police have guidelines,criminals none ,apart from doing whatever it takes to get away with crime .WHATEVER it takes.
Those bleeding for this chap do so out of a gut reaction borne out of their political or social beliefs . The ones who always blame the Police. They do it here .
This Floyd incident is manna for them and the fact he was a black man makes it more so.

Those who are most vociferous on this live well away from such trouble .

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George Floyd - The Truth on 10:34 - Jul 19 with 715 viewsScotia

George Floyd - The Truth on 01:28 - Jul 19 by AnotherJohn

The other angle on this is that no single source (or portion of the news "spectrum") is sufficient to gain a full picture of controversial events. Just as GB News or the Mail will sometimes omit important bits of an overall picture, there are certain kinds of information that the Guardian and the Indy will never report. What happened with the father in the Aylan Kurdi drowning case is a good example. So not everything coming from right wing sources can be discounted, especially if there is corroboration from video evidence or other sources. I think UJ has a point about the misleading hagiography constructed around GF, and that it may indeed have affected the legal process.


I think it goes a little further than that. There are incredibly biased mainstream media sources, such as the Mail, the Telegraph and the Mirror but then there are others who's raison d'etre is to support and diseminate a particular political angle rather than distribute news. That is why the source of a "story" is so important, that story ofter becomes propaganda.

I would consider GB News in this category but more worrying is the so called "independent" sources online. Whether they are from the left or the right.

This documentary is 2 hours of right wing propaganda and is just as beleivable as a documentary on George Floyd commissioned by Black Lives Matter. There is no difference.

I'm just amazed people get taken in by it - especially when they genuinley think it's independent or the truth.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 10:46 - Jul 19 with 709 viewsBoundy

George Floyd - The Truth on 09:15 - Jul 18 by onehunglow

His ethnicity is a key element
We know that but won’t admit it
Violent criminals once restrained can erupt again .
Problem is ,too many have not come face to face ,flesh to flesh with evil.
It’s either yiu or them
If you come out on top,then you ride the storm acoming


Is the world a better, safer place now or before his demise.Some may say unsafer due to it ,some may have a more personal view.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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George Floyd - The Truth on 11:26 - Jul 19 with 698 viewsGwyn737

George Floyd - The Truth on 10:34 - Jul 19 by Scotia

I think it goes a little further than that. There are incredibly biased mainstream media sources, such as the Mail, the Telegraph and the Mirror but then there are others who's raison d'etre is to support and diseminate a particular political angle rather than distribute news. That is why the source of a "story" is so important, that story ofter becomes propaganda.

I would consider GB News in this category but more worrying is the so called "independent" sources online. Whether they are from the left or the right.

This documentary is 2 hours of right wing propaganda and is just as beleivable as a documentary on George Floyd commissioned by Black Lives Matter. There is no difference.

I'm just amazed people get taken in by it - especially when they genuinley think it's independent or the truth.


A good example of GB News doing just this is the way the framed yesterday's abhorrant incident in Leicester.

Their TV program and online stuff showed (video, Op Eds and stills) the actions of almost exclusively non-white young men when (sadle) it was all colours and ages involved.

I don't like the tone and politics of the Mail, however, they do have some good columnists and have done some excellent investigative pieces.

It'snot comparable to GB News and even further away is Talk TV, which is the only outlet mentioned on here that I won't click on.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 11:41 - Jul 19 with 676 viewsunion_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 10:34 - Jul 19 by Scotia

I think it goes a little further than that. There are incredibly biased mainstream media sources, such as the Mail, the Telegraph and the Mirror but then there are others who's raison d'etre is to support and diseminate a particular political angle rather than distribute news. That is why the source of a "story" is so important, that story ofter becomes propaganda.

I would consider GB News in this category but more worrying is the so called "independent" sources online. Whether they are from the left or the right.

This documentary is 2 hours of right wing propaganda and is just as beleivable as a documentary on George Floyd commissioned by Black Lives Matter. There is no difference.

I'm just amazed people get taken in by it - especially when they genuinley think it's independent or the truth.


So have you watched it yet?

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George Floyd - The Truth on 12:14 - Jul 19 with 642 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 10:46 - Jul 19 by Boundy

Is the world a better, safer place now or before his demise.Some may say unsafer due to it ,some may have a more personal view.


He’s like us all boundy boy,mere dust particles floating through the atmosphere
Atmosphere?
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George Floyd - The Truth on 13:58 - Jul 19 with 621 viewsScotia

George Floyd - The Truth on 11:41 - Jul 19 by union_jack

So have you watched it yet?


No. It's propaganda.

Have you watched an equivalent by BLM?

I wouldn't watch a story on immigration on GB news for the same reason.
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George Floyd - The Truth on 14:33 - Jul 19 with 590 viewsunion_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 13:58 - Jul 19 by Scotia

No. It's propaganda.

Have you watched an equivalent by BLM?

I wouldn't watch a story on immigration on GB news for the same reason.
[Post edited 19 Jul 13:59]


I’ve been watching the BLM angle sinvpcevthe day it happened.

There is a lot of evidence in this film that I’d like to think would change your mind but I’ve come to the conclusion that you’d say black is white (don’t go looking for something in that example!) if you don’t agree with it.

Until you explore both sides, your opinion has no validity.

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George Floyd - The Truth on 17:57 - Jul 19 with 535 viewsScotia

George Floyd - The Truth on 14:33 - Jul 19 by union_jack

I’ve been watching the BLM angle sinvpcevthe day it happened.

There is a lot of evidence in this film that I’d like to think would change your mind but I’ve come to the conclusion that you’d say black is white (don’t go looking for something in that example!) if you don’t agree with it.

Until you explore both sides, your opinion has no validity.


It's not evidence, it's propaganda.That's not an opinion it's fact.

I don't think I've ever expressed my opinion on the George Floyd murder on here?
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George Floyd - The Truth on 18:00 - Jul 19 with 527 viewsunion_jack

George Floyd - The Truth on 17:57 - Jul 19 by Scotia

It's not evidence, it's propaganda.That's not an opinion it's fact.

I don't think I've ever expressed my opinion on the George Floyd murder on here?


You have no authority upon which to say that until you’ve seen it.

And you’ve just expressed your opinion in that sentence alone!

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George Floyd - The Truth on 18:06 - Jul 19 with 523 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 17:57 - Jul 19 by Scotia

It's not evidence, it's propaganda.That's not an opinion it's fact.

I don't think I've ever expressed my opinion on the George Floyd murder on here?


No it’s not a fact.
Self evidently, propaganda is subjective

It is to you

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George Floyd - The Truth on 18:56 - Jul 19 with 494 viewsBoundy

George Floyd - The Truth on 12:14 - Jul 19 by onehunglow

He’s like us all boundy boy,mere dust particles floating through the atmosphere
Atmosphere?
Russ Abbott


Terrible tune as is your pun

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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George Floyd - The Truth on 22:08 - Jul 19 with 457 viewsonehunglow

George Floyd - The Truth on 18:56 - Jul 19 by Boundy

Terrible tune as is your pun


Soz

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George Floyd - The Truth on 23:48 - Jul 19 with 418 viewsScotia

George Floyd - The Truth on 18:00 - Jul 19 by union_jack

You have no authority upon which to say that until you’ve seen it.

And you’ve just expressed your opinion in that sentence alone!


No I absolutely do. And no I haven't.
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