| Post election thoughts 09:46 - Jul 5 with 2295 views | onehunglow |
Incredible really.
Not see so much slaughter so those nice Canadians sets out those poor bloody seals
That said,Sunak looks like a battered seal. An utter clown preceded by two vicious butchers who killed their party .
Corbyn wins showing the difference between his London milieu and denizens and the rest of us
Farage clearly loves him being the cynosure of disaffected leavers
Rees Mogg dumped so no comic value
And the magnificence of the décolletage of Penny Maudaunt gone
Tories lost it when Ruth Davidson left the stage
Interesting times ahead |  |
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| Post election thoughts on 09:56 - Jul 5 with 1375 views | YrAlarch |
At your most eloquent!
I'm sure Rees Mogg won't be needing to use his local food bank, assuming they have one near his pile.
Interestingly Drakeford was on BBC Wales last night. He was talking about the relationship between the Welsh and UK Governments over the years. He stated that when Tata announced the closure of the blast furnaces at Port Talbot he, as First Minister, tried to call Sunak, as Prime Minister, but the latter did not bother to return his call. That says it all about how much a Conservative Government cares about Wales. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 10:04 - Jul 5 with 1368 views | onehunglow |
| Post election thoughts on 09:56 - Jul 5 by YrAlarch |
At your most eloquent!
I'm sure Rees Mogg won't be needing to use his local food bank, assuming they have one near his pile.
Interestingly Drakeford was on BBC Wales last night. He was talking about the relationship between the Welsh and UK Governments over the years. He stated that when Tata announced the closure of the blast furnaces at Port Talbot he, as First Minister, tried to call Sunak, as Prime Minister, but the latter did not bother to return his call. That says it all about how much a Conservative Government cares about Wales. |
Mornin matey
Watching Rees Mogg last night with two huge portraits of some long departed family grandee made me both laugh and cry ,made worse by two smaller photos of Churchill and That her, I
Was hoping not too many of our contributors were watching as the Waterford crystal would be smashed to pieces .
A man clearly dressed like a post war toff with the PR dissonance that detaches them from reality .
Until Conservatives find somebody who is ,or appears to be real,then they are doomed to die .
At least Sunak didn’t do a CR7 | |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:12 - Jul 5 with 1358 views | raynor94 |
Have to say its made my day seeing so many government ministers losing their seats.
Especially Truss and Schapps |  |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:14 - Jul 5 with 1355 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Fascinating stuff. Waiting for the release of the full data to get more detail but to me the real winner is apathy I think. Labour 3 million votes down on Corbyn’s 2017 result. 500,000 down on 2019 which was widely seen as a disaster. Low turnout across the board. Any other election they would have been trounced on this performance. Partygate and the shenanigans that followed have been the death knell for the conservatives in the same way the tuition fee pledge/lie killed the Lib Dem’s for a decade.
SNP wiped out which is lovely to see. There’s their mandate on independence gone along with their toxic, childish antics. |  |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:20 - Jul 5 with 1347 views | YrAlarch |
| Post election thoughts on 10:04 - Jul 5 by onehunglow |
Mornin matey
Watching Rees Mogg last night with two huge portraits of some long departed family grandee made me both laugh and cry ,made worse by two smaller photos of Churchill and That her, I
Was hoping not too many of our contributors were watching as the Waterford crystal would be smashed to pieces .
A man clearly dressed like a post war toff with the PR dissonance that detaches them from reality .
Until Conservatives find somebody who is ,or appears to be real,then they are doomed to die .
At least Sunak didn’t do a CR7 |
Yes, I noticed the background paraphernalia. Perhaps he put back the portraits of the Sex Pistols after the cameras departed.
On a serious note JON was quite right to point out the poor turn-out. That is concerning as it seems to suggest a lack of engagement by the various parties with the electorate. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 10:28 - Jul 5 with 1336 views | onehunglow |
| Post election thoughts on 10:20 - Jul 5 by YrAlarch |
Yes, I noticed the background paraphernalia. Perhaps he put back the portraits of the Sex Pistols after the cameras departed.
On a serious note JON was quite right to point out the poor turn-out. That is concerning as it seems to suggest a lack of engagement by the various parties with the electorate. |
Indeed.
Starmer really didn’t have to do much.Tories lost it,not Labour won .
Sunak was anonymous ,Truss superfluous ,May just a bitch.
Covid was the thing that killed them off
People who couodnt go to funerals,lost loved ones or in our case couldn’t see newborn grandchildren for months
People didn’t forget | |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:35 - Jul 5 with 1328 views | pencoedjack |
| Post election thoughts on 09:56 - Jul 5 by YrAlarch |
At your most eloquent!
I'm sure Rees Mogg won't be needing to use his local food bank, assuming they have one near his pile.
Interestingly Drakeford was on BBC Wales last night. He was talking about the relationship between the Welsh and UK Governments over the years. He stated that when Tata announced the closure of the blast furnaces at Port Talbot he, as First Minister, tried to call Sunak, as Prime Minister, but the latter did not bother to return his call. That says it all about how much a Conservative Government cares about Wales. |
What is the point of discussing the closing of TATA Steel? Welsh labour for all their guff wanted the steelworks closed as they did with the closure of the pit in Merthyr recently.
We will now import steel & as we do with coal, but hey Wales looks good.
https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2023-02/net-zero-skills-a
Anyway hopefully Labour in Westminster will push the yokels in Cardiff to
Improve the infrastructure in South Wales which will bring much-needed jobs
Rid us of the FM who the Senedd have no confidence in
Ensure money is spread fairly around Wales & not just spent in Cardiff
Ensure that WL is reigned in with ridiculous wasteful schemes
That would be a good start. |  | | |
| Post election thoughts on 10:41 - Jul 5 with 1307 views | controversial_jack |
| Post election thoughts on 10:28 - Jul 5 by onehunglow |
Indeed.
Starmer really didn’t have to do much.Tories lost it,not Labour won .
Sunak was anonymous ,Truss superfluous ,May just a bitch.
Covid was the thing that killed them off
People who couodnt go to funerals,lost loved ones or in our case couldn’t see newborn grandchildren for months
People didn’t forget |
When we needed the govt to stand up and be counted during covid, they didn't | | | |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:42 - Jul 5 with 1303 views | controversial_jack |
| Post election thoughts on 10:35 - Jul 5 by pencoedjack |
What is the point of discussing the closing of TATA Steel? Welsh labour for all their guff wanted the steelworks closed as they did with the closure of the pit in Merthyr recently.
We will now import steel & as we do with coal, but hey Wales looks good.
https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2023-02/net-zero-skills-a
Anyway hopefully Labour in Westminster will push the yokels in Cardiff to
Improve the infrastructure in South Wales which will bring much-needed jobs
Rid us of the FM who the Senedd have no confidence in
Ensure money is spread fairly around Wales & not just spent in Cardiff
Ensure that WL is reigned in with ridiculous wasteful schemes
That would be a good start. |
There wasn't a discussion, Sunak didn't reply. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 10:43 - Jul 5 with 1315 views | onehunglow |
| Post election thoughts on 10:35 - Jul 5 by pencoedjack |
What is the point of discussing the closing of TATA Steel? Welsh labour for all their guff wanted the steelworks closed as they did with the closure of the pit in Merthyr recently.
We will now import steel & as we do with coal, but hey Wales looks good.
https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2023-02/net-zero-skills-a
Anyway hopefully Labour in Westminster will push the yokels in Cardiff to
Improve the infrastructure in South Wales which will bring much-needed jobs
Rid us of the FM who the Senedd have no confidence in
Ensure money is spread fairly around Wales & not just spent in Cardiff
Ensure that WL is reigned in with ridiculous wasteful schemes
That would be a good start. |
Michael Foot, oversaw the death of Ebbw Vale steelworks | |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:43 - Jul 5 with 1314 views | raynor94 |
| Post election thoughts on 10:35 - Jul 5 by pencoedjack |
What is the point of discussing the closing of TATA Steel? Welsh labour for all their guff wanted the steelworks closed as they did with the closure of the pit in Merthyr recently.
We will now import steel & as we do with coal, but hey Wales looks good.
https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2023-02/net-zero-skills-a
Anyway hopefully Labour in Westminster will push the yokels in Cardiff to
Improve the infrastructure in South Wales which will bring much-needed jobs
Rid us of the FM who the Senedd have no confidence in
Ensure money is spread fairly around Wales & not just spent in Cardiff
Ensure that WL is reigned in with ridiculous wasteful schemes
That would be a good start. |
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| Post election thoughts on 10:50 - Jul 5 with 1292 views | controversial_jack |
| Post election thoughts on 10:43 - Jul 5 by raynor94 |
Excellent post |
Your Tories took a hammering too. They are finished at least for the next 10 years | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 10:52 - Jul 5 with 1302 views | felixstowe_jack |
Amazing election
Starmer got 500,000 fewer votes than Corbyn.
In Wales labour got 150,000 fewer votes than than in 2019.
In Scotland the SNP vote collapsed.
Don't you just love our democratic system. Roll on 2026 for the next Senedd and Scottish elections. | |
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| Post election thoughts on 11:00 - Jul 5 with 1285 views | controversial_jack |
| Post election thoughts on 10:52 - Jul 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Amazing election
Starmer got 500,000 fewer votes than Corbyn.
In Wales labour got 150,000 fewer votes than than in 2019.
In Scotland the SNP vote collapsed.
Don't you just love our democratic system. Roll on 2026 for the next Senedd and Scottish elections. |
Sour grapes? | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 11:01 - Jul 5 with 1298 views | Boundy |
| Post election thoughts on 10:28 - Jul 5 by onehunglow |
Indeed.
Starmer really didn’t have to do much.Tories lost it,not Labour won .
Sunak was anonymous ,Truss superfluous ,May just a bitch.
Covid was the thing that killed them off
People who couodnt go to funerals,lost loved ones or in our case couldn’t see newborn grandchildren for months
People didn’t forget |
They also forget the money paid into their bank accounts for staying at home during covid , the free meal deals | |
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| Post election thoughts on 13:12 - Jul 5 with 1256 views | AnotherJohn |
| Post election thoughts on 11:01 - Jul 5 by Boundy |
They also forget the money paid into their bank accounts for staying at home during covid , the free meal deals |
As far as I can see, England's COVID performance was not noticeably worse than that of Wales and Scotland, except perhaps in the area of PPE contracts. Scotland had some difficult moments because of its reluctance to use central UK support services. Wales was a little more nanny state than England with the mileage from home limit and those closed supermarket aisles containing "non-essential" goods. What was it about England's performance that was so bad compared with what happened in Wales? | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 13:24 - Jul 5 with 1239 views | JumpingJackFlash |
| Post election thoughts on 10:12 - Jul 5 by raynor94 |
Have to say its made my day seeing so many government ministers losing their seats.
Especially Truss and Schapps |
Not a minister but Fabricant losing was delicious. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 13:54 - Jul 5 with 1223 views | Luther27 |
I would not…and did not vote for Labour after watching them destroy my country from the Senedd.
However I am a firm supporter of democracy. I believe it’s in our country’s interest to join together and get on with it, not backbiting, backstabbing, protesting that this country has lowered itself to. If our lives are to get better then let’s not repeat the debacle post Brexit vote that continues to this day. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 14:39 - Jul 5 with 1179 views | KeithHaynes |
| Post election thoughts on 10:50 - Jul 5 by controversial_jack |
Your Tories took a hammering too. They are finished at least for the next 10 years |
What about the party who got well over four million votes but only four seats whilst LDP got seventy one seats with one and a half million less votes ! can they build on that ? |  |
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| Post election thoughts on 14:48 - Jul 5 with 1165 views | onehunglow |
| Post election thoughts on 13:24 - Jul 5 by JumpingJackFlash |
Not a minister but Fabricant losing was delicious. |
Never trust a man with a rug | |
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| Post election thoughts on 14:52 - Jul 5 with 1159 views | Gwyn737 |
| Post election thoughts on 14:39 - Jul 5 by KeithHaynes |
What about the party who got well over four million votes but only four seats whilst LDP got seventy one seats with one and a half million less votes ! can they build on that ? |
They can but they'll have to do three things.
1. The LDs ground machine did very well in targeting seats they could win. Reform will have to become a 'proper' party and evolve into a more traditional election machine.
2. They've had a massive bump with the return of Farage. They need to work out what comes next.
3. They've got four MPs in Parliament for 5 years to show they can talk about things apart from immigration to show they're not just a protest vote.
Also everything depends on the performance of Labour. If they're rubbish, the door will be wide open. If things get better, voters will stop being so angry and the vote will seep back to the center right. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 15:14 - Jul 5 with 1133 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Labour get a huge majority with 34 percent of the vote, something seems out of sync? |  |
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| Post election thoughts on 15:17 - Jul 5 with 1131 views | Boundy |
Just facts | |
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| Post election thoughts on 16:11 - Jul 5 with 1081 views | pencoedjack |
| Post election thoughts on 14:52 - Jul 5 by Gwyn737 |
They can but they'll have to do three things.
1. The LDs ground machine did very well in targeting seats they could win. Reform will have to become a 'proper' party and evolve into a more traditional election machine.
2. They've had a massive bump with the return of Farage. They need to work out what comes next.
3. They've got four MPs in Parliament for 5 years to show they can talk about things apart from immigration to show they're not just a protest vote.
Also everything depends on the performance of Labour. If they're rubbish, the door will be wide open. If things get better, voters will stop being so angry and the vote will seep back to the center right. |
Personally, I believe that not continually throwing money at the NHS is a good part of their manifesto as well.
The NHS needs an overhaul & continually throwing good money after bad isn't the answer. | | | |
| Post election thoughts on 16:20 - Jul 5 with 1069 views | raynor94 |
| Post election thoughts on 10:50 - Jul 5 by controversial_jack |
Your Tories took a hammering too. They are finished at least for the next 10 years |
Why on are earth are they my Tories? | |
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