| Whittaker now on 18 20:59 - Feb 14 with 4055 views | AnotherJohn |
Just scored against Coventry. Lati struggling to contain him. |  | | |  |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:01 - Feb 14 with 2976 views | KeithHaynes |
Al Hamada scores for Ipswich, treated awfully etc. |  |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:09 - Feb 14 with 2953 views | Kilkennyjack |
Cooper signing if i remember correctly. |  |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:15 - Feb 14 with 2938 views | onehunglow |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:01 - Feb 14 by KeithHaynes |
Al Hamada scores for Ipswich, treated awfully etc. |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 09:31 - Feb 15 with 2762 views | Boundy |
You just couldn't let it lie, | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 09:38 - Feb 15 with 2755 views | onehunglow |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 09:31 - Feb 15 by Boundy |
You just couldn't let it lie, |
It’s galling though boundy bach.
Whittaker is a constant reminder of how we f it up.
He doesn’t seem to be troublesome there so questions can be asked as to how Plymouth bluddy Argyle is so different .
When he first came to us,he was raw and frail.He needed to grow and develop . He has now . | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:03 - Feb 15 with 2728 views | jack247 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 09:31 - Feb 15 by Boundy |
You just couldn't let it lie, |
We get this every time he scores.
Whittaker and Gyokores get more airtime than some of our current players. | | | |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:27 - Feb 15 with 2704 views | onehunglow |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:03 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
We get this every time he scores.
Whittaker and Gyokores get more airtime than some of our current players. |
It’s because it shows up our mistakes or where we went wrong.
We should learn from mistakes ,all of us .
You up to much today? | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:44 - Feb 15 with 2687 views | jack247 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:27 - Feb 15 by onehunglow |
It’s because it shows up our mistakes or where we went wrong.
We should learn from mistakes ,all of us .
You up to much today? |
The mistake with Whittaker was bringing him back for a quick buck when he was doing well at Plymouth and didn’t want to come back. If the owners had treated him better he may have been happy to stay after Martin left.
I don’t think Gyokores was a mistake. He wasn’t our player and he was useless. Brighton know their stuff and they were happy to let him go cheaply.
It’s not so much the point that’s being made though, it’s the fact it’s Groundhog Day every time he scores. It’s literally the same thread every time.
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 11:43 - Feb 15 with 2626 views | onehunglow |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:44 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
The mistake with Whittaker was bringing him back for a quick buck when he was doing well at Plymouth and didn’t want to come back. If the owners had treated him better he may have been happy to stay after Martin left.
I don’t think Gyokores was a mistake. He wasn’t our player and he was useless. Brighton know their stuff and they were happy to let him go cheaply.
It’s not so much the point that’s being made though, it’s the fact it’s Groundhog Day every time he scores. It’s literally the same thread every time.
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:02 - Feb 15 with 2499 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:44 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
The mistake with Whittaker was bringing him back for a quick buck when he was doing well at Plymouth and didn’t want to come back. If the owners had treated him better he may have been happy to stay after Martin left.
I don’t think Gyokores was a mistake. He wasn’t our player and he was useless. Brighton know their stuff and they were happy to let him go cheaply.
It’s not so much the point that’s being made though, it’s the fact it’s Groundhog Day every time he scores. It’s literally the same thread every time.
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Duff looked at what he had and went with Lowe Cullen Yates and Kuharevych. Whitaker came to him and said he was fed up and wanted to go. Duff had options.
a) "You are under contract and I want you to be my main man".
b) "No problem will speak to Watson".
Neither he nor Gyorkeres were allowed to develop at Swansea. Fletcher failed his trial. It bad management. You b do not need to be an experts to see Fletcher will be the next calamitous bad decision. it is what Swansea do these days. Strikers with ego are "too much trouble". Cantona? no thanks.
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:12 - Feb 15 with 2481 views | QJumpingJack |
The Swans have a 25% sell on clause so the club should be congratulated on doing the deal with Plymouth.
There is some information posted on this thread which is incorrect. [Post edited 15 Feb 17:12]
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:14 - Feb 15 with 2469 views | jack247 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:02 - Feb 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Duff looked at what he had and went with Lowe Cullen Yates and Kuharevych. Whitaker came to him and said he was fed up and wanted to go. Duff had options.
a) "You are under contract and I want you to be my main man".
b) "No problem will speak to Watson".
Neither he nor Gyorkeres were allowed to develop at Swansea. Fletcher failed his trial. It bad management. You b do not need to be an experts to see Fletcher will be the next calamitous bad decision. it is what Swansea do these days. Strikers with ego are "too much trouble". Cantona? no thanks.
Cullen yes please - model professional. |
On Duffs first day, two months before Lowe signed…..
Stop making things up. | | | |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:16 - Feb 15 with 2470 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:02 - Feb 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Duff looked at what he had and went with Lowe Cullen Yates and Kuharevych. Whitaker came to him and said he was fed up and wanted to go. Duff had options.
a) "You are under contract and I want you to be my main man".
b) "No problem will speak to Watson".
Neither he nor Gyorkeres were allowed to develop at Swansea. Fletcher failed his trial. It bad management. You b do not need to be an experts to see Fletcher will be the next calamitous bad decision. it is what Swansea do these days. Strikers with ego are "too much trouble". Cantona? no thanks.
Cullen yes please - model professional. |
Looking at the positives - at least we brought them in initially before deciding against. Hopefully we can bring more in and see the potential tail
Although how Fletcher failed his trial given our options is truly baffling |  |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:34 - Feb 15 with 2450 views | KeithHaynes |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:16 - Feb 15 by PatchesOHoulihan |
Looking at the positives - at least we brought them in initially before deciding against. Hopefully we can bring more in and see the potential tail
Although how Fletcher failed his trial given our options is truly baffling |
He didn’t fail mate, he was sent back as he wasn’t under a professional contract. He couldn’t play.
In any event Levien wasn’t going to allow it. | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 18:33 - Feb 15 with 2400 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 10:03 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
We get this every time he scores.
Whittaker and Gyokores get more airtime than some of our current players. |
Whittaker was actually our player though. Just chalk it up to experience, one that got away.
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 19:52 - Feb 15 with 2339 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:34 - Feb 15 by KeithHaynes |
He didn’t fail mate, he was sent back as he wasn’t under a professional contract. He couldn’t play.
In any event Levien wasn’t going to allow it. |
Duff said he was on trial and "the club " would make a decision on his future in January. After Duff showed no enthusiasm for this young developing player Levien stated he was happy he was coming back. WoL noted he was keen to stay.
It is true he could not play for the first team but he could have if Swansea had come to an arrangement. It is very odd a player on trial scores 17 goals in three months including 2 hattricks and no one says a good word about him at all.
Recent Swansea mangers had no interest in signing Gyorkeres, and were disinterested in Whittaker. Now Kuharevych is the latest on the bad boy step.
It looks like a pattern to me. Add to the fact the best and only centre forward produced by the the academy is the moderately talented Cullen who cannot head crosses into the goal.
Club staffers are not doing their work well. | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 20:01 - Feb 15 with 2324 views | max936 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:34 - Feb 15 by KeithHaynes |
He didn’t fail mate, he was sent back as he wasn’t under a professional contract. He couldn’t play.
In any event Levien wasn’t going to allow it. |
Nothing beats the Truth and the actual truth at that.
You above anyone would know the Truth, Bravo! |  |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 20:31 - Feb 15 with 2287 views | jack247 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 18:33 - Feb 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Whittaker was actually our player though. Just chalk it up to experience, one that got away.
WHATEVER the reason. |
Yeah, but he’s not now. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
We don’t get a thread every time Piroe or McBurnie score. It’s weird. | | | |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 21:19 - Feb 15 with 2248 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 17:14 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
On Duffs first day, two months before Lowe signed…..
Stop making things up. |
No error in my comment. I did not study the timeframes.
Duff was happy to ultimately go with Lowe and co and did not offer Whittaker a starting place he has shown he deserved. He has scored as many goals on his own as the four used combined at a guess. | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 21:38 - Feb 15 with 2224 views | Dr_Winston |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 20:31 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
Yeah, but he’s not now. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
We don’t get a thread every time Piroe or McBurnie score. It’s weird. |
Possibly because Piroe and McBurnie were both given actual, proper chances to thrive in our team and subsequently weren't sold at a discount as a result, potentially costing the club eight figures of lost income.
It's only natural to wonder how he would have done here if not consistently mucked about by managers (and I'll include Cooper in that) and eventually club. Losing more than £10m in transfer fees isn't something that can be glibly "chalked up to experience". It is a major error that could seriously hurt the club in the long run.
Serious questions need to be asked of those responsible for their utter failure in utilising a player who, when played consistently in his best position, is reportedly being valued in that range, especially when it was obvious at the time that he wasn't getting a fair crack of the whip in comparison to others. [Post edited 15 Feb 22:55]
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:35 - Feb 15 with 2179 views | onehunglow |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 20:31 - Feb 15 by jack247 |
Yeah, but he’s not now. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
We don’t get a thread every time Piroe or McBurnie score. It’s weird. |
Piiroe and mad Mac were not perms benched , that's why
Both went without contempt for our club that Whittaker has
McBurnie would come back,Whittaker would never . | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 23:20 - Feb 15 with 2155 views | KeithHaynes |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 22:35 - Feb 15 by onehunglow |
Piiroe and mad Mac were not perms benched , that's why
Both went without contempt for our club that Whittaker has
McBurnie would come back,Whittaker would never . |
Then he should have behaved himself, learned from Piroe that behaviour like flicking the v sign behind coaches backs isn’t a good idea. You would be the first to complain if he did it to you. | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 23:25 - Feb 15 with 2146 views | Dr_Winston |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 23:20 - Feb 15 by KeithHaynes |
Then he should have behaved himself, learned from Piroe that behaviour like flicking the v sign behind coaches backs isn’t a good idea. You would be the first to complain if he did it to you. |
Depends if that coach wasn't a complete idiot continually trying to make things work that obviously were never going to.
There seems to be a school of thought that a manager trying to make things work that never, ever were going to in a month of Sundays should somehow be protected from players calling him out on it.
Sure, the Waylon Smithers types like Grimes will cheerfully go along with just about anything the boss comes up with, but in football, just as in any kind of occupation, stupid management needs to be called out. | |
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 00:29 - Feb 16 with 2117 views | KeithHaynes |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 23:25 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston |
Depends if that coach wasn't a complete idiot continually trying to make things work that obviously were never going to.
There seems to be a school of thought that a manager trying to make things work that never, ever were going to in a month of Sundays should somehow be protected from players calling him out on it.
Sure, the Waylon Smithers types like Grimes will cheerfully go along with just about anything the boss comes up with, but in football, just as in any kind of occupation, stupid management needs to be called out. |
Unbelievable you would condone that behaviour from a petty little boy who is being paid good money to wear our clubs shirt. And it’s ok ?
As if Morgan Whittaker ever gave a monkeys about Swansea city to behave like that.
He’s lucky he didn’t do that in a real job. Only one outcome.
As for stupid management, Joel Piroe saw fit to learn, as did Ryan Manning. I’m thinking you are confusing your dislike of a person with a judgement on his professional ability.
His record this season speaks for itself ( and none of this premier league nonsense ) his last eleven games last season proved this at Swansea. Just admit you don’t like the guy even though you don’t know him and be done with it.
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| Whittaker now on 18 on 00:34 - Feb 16 with 2110 views | Dr_Winston |
| Whittaker now on 18 on 00:29 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
Unbelievable you would condone that behaviour from a petty little boy who is being paid good money to wear our clubs shirt. And it’s ok ?
As if Morgan Whittaker ever gave a monkeys about Swansea city to behave like that.
He’s lucky he didn’t do that in a real job. Only one outcome.
As for stupid management, Joel Piroe saw fit to learn, as did Ryan Manning. I’m thinking you are confusing your dislike of a person with a judgement on his professional ability.
His record this season speaks for itself ( and none of this premier league nonsense ) his last eleven games last season proved this at Swansea. Just admit you don’t like the guy even though you don’t know him and be done with it.
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As if Russell Martin ever gave a Monkeys about Swansea City to be afforded that level of protection for his wilful negligence. Not sure why players who are being paid to play for the club are held to higher standards than one who is being paid to manage it.
The attempts to improve his own reputation within the game for "progressive football" ahead of the wellbeing of the club he is ostensibly supposed to be coaching. Even now he's desperate to blame anyone, anything other than himself for the levels of failure we witnessed in his two years at the club.
I have every sympathy for any player who showed the appropriate level of contempt for Martin under those circumstances. As someone who mocked the arrogant buffoon on a weekly basis when he was here, it would be hypocritical of me to do anything else.
If anything his record this season completely justifies the criticism he got last season. He knew full well how to get the best out of the players he had at his disposal. He just refused to do so. It's absolutely no coincidence that his run of form at Southampton coincides almost entirely with his abandonment of his "process", just as his runs of form here did the same.
We wasted two years under this idiot, and both he and his supporters have done their level best since to pretend that someone else was to blame for it. [Post edited 16 Feb 0:44]
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