| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 08:52 - Jan 31 with 2647 views | TheChef |
I thought there were a couple of times he tried to release the ball early and long to the wings but er, I think both times the ball went out of play...
We're definitely missing Dieng's distribution. |  |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 09:40 - Jan 31 with 2569 views | mart_Goblin |
I have stated it before and I’ll say it again that I think Begovic is a big part of our problem . Not all of it of course but a sizeable slice .
He does try to release the forwards occasionally but my issue is with how long he takes to just take a simple goal kick . Even if you are doing it short just get it down and play but as the OG post states, he seems belligerent in having us set up in our ‘correct’ positions first which means of course the opposition are too. And then we wonder why we are struggling to get out of our own corner flag areas .
He chooses to start going long every time Dykes has gone off which means it’s invariably coming straight back when we need to keep it most and as for my main gripe which is his complete stubbornness and refusal to ever step outside his box for any reason…it’s unbelievable.
I’ve said before so many times that nearly every goalkeeper now , no matter the division is stepping out of their area when their team have possession and playing as a deep lying centre back which means we can push the centre backs wide and the full backs on or into midfield to create extra options which we desperately lack .
He refuses bluntly and even in the last few seconds on Sunday when Huddersfield had all 10 outfield players camped on the edge of their box , and they hoofed it down field ….he still waved his arms around standing still in his area as if to say “oh you actually want ME to bring the ball foward and help?”
It’s criminal and he is hampering so much of how Marti wants to play . If Marti hasn’t got hold of him he needs too as this is one of the many reasons why we’ll be dragged into league 1.
Not doubting his shot stopping ability but as part of how we attack teams and beat teams he is a liability . |  | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 09:50 - Jan 31 with 2530 views | TheChef |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 09:40 - Jan 31 by mart_Goblin |
I have stated it before and I’ll say it again that I think Begovic is a big part of our problem . Not all of it of course but a sizeable slice .
He does try to release the forwards occasionally but my issue is with how long he takes to just take a simple goal kick . Even if you are doing it short just get it down and play but as the OG post states, he seems belligerent in having us set up in our ‘correct’ positions first which means of course the opposition are too. And then we wonder why we are struggling to get out of our own corner flag areas .
He chooses to start going long every time Dykes has gone off which means it’s invariably coming straight back when we need to keep it most and as for my main gripe which is his complete stubbornness and refusal to ever step outside his box for any reason…it’s unbelievable.
I’ve said before so many times that nearly every goalkeeper now , no matter the division is stepping out of their area when their team have possession and playing as a deep lying centre back which means we can push the centre backs wide and the full backs on or into midfield to create extra options which we desperately lack .
He refuses bluntly and even in the last few seconds on Sunday when Huddersfield had all 10 outfield players camped on the edge of their box , and they hoofed it down field ….he still waved his arms around standing still in his area as if to say “oh you actually want ME to bring the ball foward and help?”
It’s criminal and he is hampering so much of how Marti wants to play . If Marti hasn’t got hold of him he needs too as this is one of the many reasons why we’ll be dragged into league 1.
Not doubting his shot stopping ability but as part of how we attack teams and beat teams he is a liability . |
Ha yeah I spotted that on Sunday too at the end - I was like "Begovic where the fck are you??" Like he was rooted to his goal line the whole time. | |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 10:53 - Jan 31 with 2417 views | daveB |
Cook had a go at him in the first half for not releasing the ball quicker, Willock was in so much space on 2/3 occasions as they were pushing forward to attack Drewe but he ignored that option. |  | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:08 - Jan 31 with 2355 views | traininvain |
Begovic is the proverbial square peg in a round hole given the style of football we’re trying to play. He’s pretty much incapable of playing as a sweeper keeper and his distribution is nowhere near the level required to pass out from the back.
But here’s the reality- it’s not his fault. It’s pure mismanagement from the club to sign a keeper suited to Ainsworth’s style of football but wholly unsuited to the obvious mid season managerial change that most of us saw coming.
I’m sure Marti must be desperate to replace Begovic with a keeper more suited to the role but there’s no budget to do so. He/we have Amit Bhatia to thank for such brilliant joined up thinking. |  | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:19 - Jan 31 with 2300 views | mart_Goblin |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:08 - Jan 31 by traininvain |
Begovic is the proverbial square peg in a round hole given the style of football we’re trying to play. He’s pretty much incapable of playing as a sweeper keeper and his distribution is nowhere near the level required to pass out from the back.
But here’s the reality- it’s not his fault. It’s pure mismanagement from the club to sign a keeper suited to Ainsworth’s style of football but wholly unsuited to the obvious mid season managerial change that most of us saw coming.
I’m sure Marti must be desperate to replace Begovic with a keeper more suited to the role but there’s no budget to do so. He/we have Amit Bhatia to thank for such brilliant joined up thinking. |
Although I agree with you for the most part , which manager he suits has nothing to do with him just being so slow to distribute the ball from a goal kick or from his arms . But especially goal kicks. It’s like he has a superstitious procedure that he must go through before he can pass the ball backwards into our own corner flags whilst the opposition regroup and squeeze the last breathe out of us .
In fact I’d say there is an argument that being at Bournemouth shows this is more his style as his kicking under Ainsworth was shocking .
And this is our bloody captain remember.
No urgency in anything he did on Sunday and he’s getting slower .
It’s like we should all be humbled and grovelling of his presence in a QPR shirt. Such a whiff of Hughes/ Redknapp era. Drives me nuts | | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:20 - Jan 31 with 2299 views | TheChef |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:08 - Jan 31 by traininvain |
Begovic is the proverbial square peg in a round hole given the style of football we’re trying to play. He’s pretty much incapable of playing as a sweeper keeper and his distribution is nowhere near the level required to pass out from the back.
But here’s the reality- it’s not his fault. It’s pure mismanagement from the club to sign a keeper suited to Ainsworth’s style of football but wholly unsuited to the obvious mid season managerial change that most of us saw coming.
I’m sure Marti must be desperate to replace Begovic with a keeper more suited to the role but there’s no budget to do so. He/we have Amit Bhatia to thank for such brilliant joined up thinking. |
It's a shame we're not more safe otherwise I'd be tempted to give the other keepers a go, looking to next season.
But I suppose Begovic's experience has to count for something?
Although I'm still not keen on having a goalkeeper as captain. | |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:39 - Jan 31 with 2255 views | daveB |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:08 - Jan 31 by traininvain |
Begovic is the proverbial square peg in a round hole given the style of football we’re trying to play. He’s pretty much incapable of playing as a sweeper keeper and his distribution is nowhere near the level required to pass out from the back.
But here’s the reality- it’s not his fault. It’s pure mismanagement from the club to sign a keeper suited to Ainsworth’s style of football but wholly unsuited to the obvious mid season managerial change that most of us saw coming.
I’m sure Marti must be desperate to replace Begovic with a keeper more suited to the role but there’s no budget to do so. He/we have Amit Bhatia to thank for such brilliant joined up thinking. |
I'm not sure he was suited to Ainsworth either, a crap short term signing | | | |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:59 - Jan 31 with 2195 views | traininvain |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:39 - Jan 31 by daveB |
I'm not sure he was suited to Ainsworth either, a crap short term signing |
We’re talking about the same Ainsworth who complained at the start of this season re the law change to add more time at the end of games for time wasting etc. Wouldn’t be surprised if Begovic taking his time on goal kicks etc was part of the appeal! | | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 13:32 - Jan 31 with 2063 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 11:19 - Jan 31 by mart_Goblin |
Although I agree with you for the most part , which manager he suits has nothing to do with him just being so slow to distribute the ball from a goal kick or from his arms . But especially goal kicks. It’s like he has a superstitious procedure that he must go through before he can pass the ball backwards into our own corner flags whilst the opposition regroup and squeeze the last breathe out of us .
In fact I’d say there is an argument that being at Bournemouth shows this is more his style as his kicking under Ainsworth was shocking .
And this is our bloody captain remember.
No urgency in anything he did on Sunday and he’s getting slower .
It’s like we should all be humbled and grovelling of his presence in a QPR shirt. Such a whiff of Hughes/ Redknapp era. Drives me nuts |
Absolutely - he stinks the place out, on and off the field. Saw him giving his gloves to some kid after the game, had to wonder if he would have his card machine with him.
An awful signing. Like to think a DofF would have said nope, we have 3 decent young keepers, lets use them instead. |  | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 13:46 - Jan 31 with 2015 views | connell10 |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 13:32 - Jan 31 by GaryBannister86 |
Absolutely - he stinks the place out, on and off the field. Saw him giving his gloves to some kid after the game, had to wonder if he would have his card machine with him.
An awful signing. Like to think a DofF would have said nope, we have 3 decent young keepers, lets use them instead. |
Agree , I don't think he really wants to be here and see QPR as a massive step down for him. Probably only here because he opened a goal keeping school near us. |  |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 15:28 - Jan 31 with 1921 views | mart_Goblin |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 13:46 - Jan 31 by connell10 |
Agree , I don't think he really wants to be here and see QPR as a massive step down for him. Probably only here because he opened a goal keeping school near us. |
I’d say that’s almost certainly the reason | | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 21:05 - Jan 31 with 1782 views | Spaceman_P |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 13:46 - Jan 31 by connell10 |
Agree , I don't think he really wants to be here and see QPR as a massive step down for him. Probably only here because he opened a goal keeping school near us. |
I like the bloke and he's made a few good saves for us.... BUT this comment is spot on the money. |  | | |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 21:44 - Jan 31 with 1740 views | connell10 |
| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 15:28 - Jan 31 by mart_Goblin |
I’d say that’s almost certainly the reason |
Yes and that reason sucks. | |
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| Did Begovic play Subbuteo or 4-2-4?? on 12:20 - Feb 1 with 1580 views | DannyPaddox |
Begovic. Subbuteo school in Chiswick you say? Yes his distribution could be sharper, a lot sharper, but for me he’s won and saved us more points than he’s lost. |  | | |
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