| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson 21:09 - Jan 25 with 6316 views | QJumpingJack |
Nathan in the directors box sitting next to Watson.
Is he advising the club? |  | | |  |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 22:42 - Jan 26 with 834 views | QJumpingJack |
Watson will be under pressure - he has to deliver in this transfer window.
He is just not reading the room - having Watson sat next to him sends the wrong signal. I wonder how Duff felt in September when it happened and I wonder how Luke is feeling at the moment? | | | |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 00:05 - Jan 27 with 764 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Your understanding is poor. This is not a criticism but an observation. You are a football fan not a business expert (presumably).
The club has received new money because new shares were issued and the money for the new shares went to the club to reduce debt and cover the Covid losses. As such Swansea have a low debt. The club needed new cash and it was all American. With the CLN there is no new money because it was previously a loan. US people called the loan an investment because that was always the intention to buy shares with the loaned money.
The Trust could have kept their 13% if they to had bought new shares but would have had to have bought 13% of the new shares. They could not afford it. The 21% was way too much for them and always was.
The new shares were issued by the club so the money paid for the new shares goes to Swanse city football club in Wales not the LLP. The LLP actually bought the shares and that money is with Coleman to spend diluting Mr Morgan and Mr Morris as well.
Nathan Dyer is an agent / mentor. The club will tell him they have no money to get good deals. They will not tell them what money they have or they will be taken for a ride like Chelsea.
Watson will have resigned if there was no money.
I have learned a lot about business from following Swansea and forums. Stuff I knew nothing about before. Convertible loan notes, commercial leases, tag on and drag on deals, 25% protection rights, hedge fund workings, voluntary credit agreements etc. [Post edited 27 Jan 0:15]
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| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 09:13 - Jan 27 with 688 views | Whiterockin |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 00:05 - Jan 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Your understanding is poor. This is not a criticism but an observation. You are a football fan not a business expert (presumably).
The club has received new money because new shares were issued and the money for the new shares went to the club to reduce debt and cover the Covid losses. As such Swansea have a low debt. The club needed new cash and it was all American. With the CLN there is no new money because it was previously a loan. US people called the loan an investment because that was always the intention to buy shares with the loaned money.
The Trust could have kept their 13% if they to had bought new shares but would have had to have bought 13% of the new shares. They could not afford it. The 21% was way too much for them and always was.
The new shares were issued by the club so the money paid for the new shares goes to Swanse city football club in Wales not the LLP. The LLP actually bought the shares and that money is with Coleman to spend diluting Mr Morgan and Mr Morris as well.
Nathan Dyer is an agent / mentor. The club will tell him they have no money to get good deals. They will not tell them what money they have or they will be taken for a ride like Chelsea.
Watson will have resigned if there was no money.
I have learned a lot about business from following Swansea and forums. Stuff I knew nothing about before. Convertible loan notes, commercial leases, tag on and drag on deals, 25% protection rights, hedge fund workings, voluntary credit agreements etc. [Post edited 27 Jan 0:15]
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And if they didn't make so many terrible mistakes they wouldn't need to keep putting money in and diluting shares. I wonder how Mr Morris feels about all this. |  | | |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 18:21 - Jan 27 with 587 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 09:13 - Jan 27 by Whiterockin |
And if they didn't make so many terrible mistakes they wouldn't need to keep putting money in and diluting shares. I wonder how Mr Morris feels about all this. |
They bought the club and continued with the original management. They had one real bad year when Huw's magic touch deserted him and got relegated and went to the Championship,
They got to the play off twice and failed at Wembley in the second. The club has used it parachutes and the best chance of returned was missed under Potter and Cooper. Cooper resigned rather than show his value with a lower budget. He then got stratospheric out of control budget and got sacked anyway. Jojo Shelvey on £70 pw for another 18 months.
The fall off has been gradual and as far as I can see the US people are doing their best to change the trajectory. It is not easy and competition is fierce. Morris knows the risks and he has agreed that Coleman is going to give it a good go. Watson has bought in young with potential. I have not written off Broome, Kukhareic. Njoe and Tymon. They must be given time to develop. Swansea has form for ditching players with potential who were slow burners. e.g Gyokeres. | |
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| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 19:09 - Jan 27 with 560 views | QJumpingJack |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 18:21 - Jan 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They bought the club and continued with the original management. They had one real bad year when Huw's magic touch deserted him and got relegated and went to the Championship,
They got to the play off twice and failed at Wembley in the second. The club has used it parachutes and the best chance of returned was missed under Potter and Cooper. Cooper resigned rather than show his value with a lower budget. He then got stratospheric out of control budget and got sacked anyway. Jojo Shelvey on £70 pw for another 18 months.
The fall off has been gradual and as far as I can see the US people are doing their best to change the trajectory. It is not easy and competition is fierce. Morris knows the risks and he has agreed that Coleman is going to give it a good go. Watson has bought in young with potential. I have not written off Broome, Kukhareic. Njoe and Tymon. They must be given time to develop. Swansea has form for ditching players with potential who were slow burners. e.g Gyokeres. |
I don't blame Mr Jenkins for our relegation.
Afterall he was not responsible for the Bradley appointment in October 2016 which accelerated our decline. | | | |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 19:55 - Jan 27 with 514 views | onehunglow |
| Nathan Jones & Paul Watson on 19:09 - Jan 27 by QJumpingJack |
I don't blame Mr Jenkins for our relegation.
Afterall he was not responsible for the Bradley appointment in October 2016 which accelerated our decline. |
Me neither
The clown that was Carlos was though .
As regards the players ,my contempt for them is total,stated with much revered shytehouse Ki. | |
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