| NFR 16:26 - Jan 17 with 27642 views | ArthurDaley |
Just seen our MP Tony Lloyd had died. He reviled last week he had blood cancer.
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| NFR on 17:33 - Feb 11 with 3133 views | EllDale |
I’m worried that this is only the start of the toxicity surrounding the by-election.
I’ve noticed that David Tully is standing as an independent.
I’m pretty sure he’s a Dale season ticket holder. |  | | |
| NFR on 20:07 - Feb 11 with 2935 views | ArthurDaley |
| NFR on 17:33 - Feb 11 by EllDale |
I’m worried that this is only the start of the toxicity surrounding the by-election.
I’ve noticed that David Tully is standing as an independent.
I’m pretty sure he’s a Dale season ticket holder. |
is This the same Dave Tully who Has / had the motor repair shop on Hamer Lane ? | |
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| NFR on 20:36 - Feb 11 with 2900 views | nordenblue |
| NFR on 17:33 - Feb 11 by EllDale |
I’m worried that this is only the start of the toxicity surrounding the by-election.
I’ve noticed that David Tully is standing as an independent.
I’m pretty sure he’s a Dale season ticket holder. |
That's the one, couldn't meet a nicer more genuine chap either, he was stood with Simon Gauge yesterday before the game having a chat and shaking hands for quite a while and had their photo took together.
Good luck to him, the world needs more guys like him. | | | |
| NFR on 20:41 - Feb 11 with 2886 views | nordenblue |
| NFR on 20:07 - Feb 11 by ArthurDaley |
is This the same Dave Tully who Has / had the motor repair shop on Hamer Lane ? |
That's the one | | | |
| NFR on 20:43 - Feb 11 with 2886 views | 49thseason |
| NFR on 20:07 - Feb 11 by ArthurDaley |
is This the same Dave Tully who Has / had the motor repair shop on Hamer Lane ? |
Galloways involvement has thrown the proverbial grenade into this election. He will take large chunks out of the Labour vote especially now the Labour Candidate has been shown to be an antisemite. Danczuk seems to be keeping his powder dry and hoping for a big anti-Labour backlash and the Tories are nowhere to be seen or heard...
In other news a young girl has been raped on the station near Morrissons by 4, 12-14 year old boys.
This stuff is exactly what will make someone thinking of putting millions into the local football club have second thoughts...well anyone thinking of investing in Rochdale at all really
18 days to go yet, anything could happen but none of it will be good news.... |  | | |
| NFR on 20:52 - Feb 11 with 2866 views | EllDale |
| NFR on 20:07 - Feb 11 by ArthurDaley |
is This the same Dave Tully who Has / had the motor repair shop on Hamer Lane ? |
Yes, his dad, also called David, started the business originally. | | | |
| NFR on 20:53 - Feb 11 with 2865 views | D_Alien |
| NFR on 20:43 - Feb 11 by 49thseason |
Galloways involvement has thrown the proverbial grenade into this election. He will take large chunks out of the Labour vote especially now the Labour Candidate has been shown to be an antisemite. Danczuk seems to be keeping his powder dry and hoping for a big anti-Labour backlash and the Tories are nowhere to be seen or heard...
In other news a young girl has been raped on the station near Morrissons by 4, 12-14 year old boys.
This stuff is exactly what will make someone thinking of putting millions into the local football club have second thoughts...well anyone thinking of investing in Rochdale at all really
18 days to go yet, anything could happen but none of it will be good news.... |
The article i linked earlier and the report on the Morrisons incident are now sat side by side on the BBC News website
F...ing great |  |
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| NFR on 21:38 - Feb 11 with 2779 views | 49thseason |
Tully sounds like a good lad, but I fear he overestimates what can be achieved as an MP, he would do better fronting a campaign to get himself and a couple of dozen like him to be elected onto Rochdale Council. Thats the place he could make a real difference and there are others in the Borough who would back him. I think its great the we have independents standing the exposure alone is worth their time and energy... now if they were to work together to take the Council by the scruff of the neck and boot out the troughers and ignoramuses...... | | | |
| NFR on 22:10 - Feb 11 with 2729 views | D_Alien |
| NFR on 21:38 - Feb 11 by 49thseason |
Tully sounds like a good lad, but I fear he overestimates what can be achieved as an MP, he would do better fronting a campaign to get himself and a couple of dozen like him to be elected onto Rochdale Council. Thats the place he could make a real difference and there are others in the Borough who would back him. I think its great the we have independents standing the exposure alone is worth their time and energy... now if they were to work together to take the Council by the scruff of the neck and boot out the troughers and ignoramuses...... |
It's a fair point. Chances are he'd be swallowed up by the Westminster machine (if elected) but equally, any MP from one of the main parties would just become lobby fodder so not much difference there
The local problem would be finding "a couple of dozen like him". If they existed, they'd be out and about and known to people by now
There's just something about his attitude i like though. It's the positivity, and the annoyance with the negativity of people only too willing to run the town down. They don't realise that they're the problem, but they are | |
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| NFR on 22:45 - Feb 11 with 2643 views | 49thseason |
| NFR on 22:10 - Feb 11 by D_Alien |
It's a fair point. Chances are he'd be swallowed up by the Westminster machine (if elected) but equally, any MP from one of the main parties would just become lobby fodder so not much difference there
The local problem would be finding "a couple of dozen like him". If they existed, they'd be out and about and known to people by now
There's just something about his attitude i like though. It's the positivity, and the annoyance with the negativity of people only too willing to run the town down. They don't realise that they're the problem, but they are |
Tnis town has worn out a number of good people over the years.... Fortunately finding people is less of a problem than you might imagine, look at the number of Middleton Independents who have been elected recently.... There are people in Heywood that I have come across who are looking for a leader. Maybe Tully is that man? Its clear Party politics can't fix our problems we need people who have a vision for the town that goes beyond Westminster's ideas. The local Tories have become a joke, they are fixated on potholes, rubbish and street signs. Their " big ideas" dont go much further than a coffee morning and the annual dinner.
There are people who will stick their heads above the parapet but they need organisational help, 21st century campaigning and unambiguous messages, not a brief resume on Rochdale Online and a few leaflets stuffed in random letterboxes. | | | |
| NFR on 22:46 - Feb 11 with 2642 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| NFR on 20:53 - Feb 11 by D_Alien |
The article i linked earlier and the report on the Morrisons incident are now sat side by side on the BBC News website
F...ing great |
Not a good look at all , this new revelation of rape in early evening. Just more publicity the town could well do without. Even as the last horrors to young girls are prevalent as the perpetrators still skulk the streets.
Agree about David Tully Jnr, sounds a good guy to support. Knew his father back in the day. | | | |
| NFR on 22:56 - Feb 11 with 2634 views | D_Alien |
| NFR on 22:45 - Feb 11 by 49thseason |
Tnis town has worn out a number of good people over the years.... Fortunately finding people is less of a problem than you might imagine, look at the number of Middleton Independents who have been elected recently.... There are people in Heywood that I have come across who are looking for a leader. Maybe Tully is that man? Its clear Party politics can't fix our problems we need people who have a vision for the town that goes beyond Westminster's ideas. The local Tories have become a joke, they are fixated on potholes, rubbish and street signs. Their " big ideas" dont go much further than a coffee morning and the annual dinner.
There are people who will stick their heads above the parapet but they need organisational help, 21st century campaigning and unambiguous messages, not a brief resume on Rochdale Online and a few leaflets stuffed in random letterboxes. |
It's a heck of a leap from being independent (an Independent) and assuming a leadership role over a group of people. They'll start off like-minded, but people who're independent-minded tend not to react well to being organised
The party machines, at both national and local level, have been designed to swallow independent-mindedness for breakfast. This isn't being negative btw, just realistic
I wish Tully well, who knows, he might even get my vote. I posted earlier in the thread that if Labour selected the local lad Waugh, he'd get my vote, but instead they chose a party hack who's now embarrassed himself and spat out the usual "apologies" between clenched teeth
There's a long way to go till the 29 February; let's see what else comes out of the woodwork, for the delectation of the rest of the country | |
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| NFR on 23:09 - Feb 11 with 2618 views | EllDale |
I actually heard a story that getting on the Labour shortlist did Paul Waugh no favours really as he’s been taken off political journalism by his paper as his bosses think that he’s biased towards one party. | | | |
| NFR on 14:32 - Feb 12 with 2333 views | jonahwhereru |
My partner is a true southerner with little interest in current affairs and even she has notice that Rochdale is a magnet for bad news stories. It grinds me down.
Good luck to any well meaning local who stands for an MP or councillor. They are really difficult positions to fill in the social media age, especially if you have a young family. It’s a generation since the very decent ex BBC journalist Martin Bell manage to gain a seat in Parliament as an independent, and I struggle to see a world where that would be possible now.
But I could see Paul W being selected over Ali for the General Election as the local party will have more autonomy in the selection process. I hope that is the outcome.
Someone on this thread suggested this bye election could get “spicy” well not half. | | | |
| NFR on 19:52 - Feb 12 with 2036 views | 49thseason |
Labour Party has now withdrawn its support for its candidate in the Rochdale By Election.... presumably he will now have to make it known he isnt the official Labour Candidate....but I'm not sure he can actually withdraw at this stage. What a complete Horlicks.... | | | |
| NFR on 19:54 - Feb 12 with 2035 views | EllDale |
What a mess.
Labour have just withdrawn their support for Azhar Ali’s candidacy. | | | |
| NFR on 19:58 - Feb 12 with 2018 views | TyroneShoelaces |
Might in the longer run work out in our favour
As Labour will go all out to regain the seat at the
General Election. Let’s see if our Labour Council
grasp this nettle and do something good for the club | | | |
| NFR on 20:01 - Feb 12 with 2004 views | D_Alien |
| NFR on 19:58 - Feb 12 by TyroneShoelaces |
Might in the longer run work out in our favour
As Labour will go all out to regain the seat at the
General Election. Let’s see if our Labour Council
grasp this nettle and do something good for the club |
That's assuming Ali doesn't finish ahead of the other candidates anyway, and given the number of them there might well be an awkward split to be overcome; despite which, there will be plenty of voters who agree with him
If he does win, he'll be deselected at the GE | |
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| NFR on 20:06 - Feb 12 with 1953 views | TyroneShoelaces |
| NFR on 20:01 - Feb 12 by D_Alien |
That's assuming Ali doesn't finish ahead of the other candidates anyway, and given the number of them there might well be an awkward split to be overcome; despite which, there will be plenty of voters who agree with him
If he does win, he'll be deselected at the GE |
Not sure how it works but if he is deselected can he still stand ?
Or will he withdraw himself from the ballot. If he doesn’t then
IMO he’s a fool as it will do Labour more harm than good | | | |
| NFR on 20:11 - Feb 12 with 1916 views | D_Alien |
| NFR on 20:06 - Feb 12 by TyroneShoelaces |
Not sure how it works but if he is deselected can he still stand ?
Or will he withdraw himself from the ballot. If he doesn’t then
IMO he’s a fool as it will do Labour more harm than good |
Yes, he can still stand in the by election but not as the official Labour candidate, and it's too late for Labour to select a replacement under the rules
If he wins and he's deselected at the GE he can still stand but under his own banner, whatever that might be
The same has happened with the Green Party candidate, but too late for another one
Their names will be on the ballot paper, not sure about the labelling | |
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| NFR on 20:14 - Feb 12 with 1899 views | TyroneShoelaces |
29th is gonna be pretty confusing then | | | |
| NFR on 20:47 - Feb 12 with 1837 views | BigKindo |
Labour have just withdrawn support for Ali. Good news or bad news. [Post edited 12 Feb 20:50]
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| NFR on 20:47 - Feb 12 with 1837 views | pioneer |
Embarrassing…seems like due diligence is not a strong point with the Labour Party. | | | |
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