| Didn't deserve to lose that 14:08 - Jan 14 with 12133 views | OakR |
I know it's about achieving etc as Marti says, but you know what, we played well today.
Our Achilles heal of not being able to score / take chances bit us again.
Plenty of positives from today, not the result of course
This is miles away from getting beaten and playing terribly. [Post edited 14 Jan 14:09]
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| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:28 - Jan 14 with 1607 views | flynnbo |
Armstrong takes those chances and we win the game. 3 gilt edged chances particularly the 2 in the second half and also misdirected a header in the first half. Begovic leaden footed for their first too though we didn’t close him down quickly enough. [Post edited 14 Jan 15:30]
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| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:30 - Jan 14 with 1597 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:21 - Jan 14 by gazza1 |
Why do you think that Livermore was Dykes man?? Was we 'man to man' marking then?? |
Because he’s our ‘attacking’ midfielder and he’s their defensive midfielder. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:32 - Jan 14 with 1578 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:28 - Jan 14 by flynnbo |
Armstrong takes those chances and we win the game. 3 gilt edged chances particularly the 2 in the second half and also misdirected a header in the first half. Begovic leaden footed for their first too though we didn’t close him down quickly enough. [Post edited 14 Jan 15:30]
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Thought the one Hamer tipped round the post Armstrong didn’t do a lot wrong. Led the line well enough, caused experienced defenders plenty of problems. He shouldn’t be good enough to start but give me that over Dykes’ efforts any day. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:35 - Jan 14 with 1569 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:16 - Jan 14 by gazza1 |
I have told you why he was excellent (maybe a little OTT) but he generally did a very good job during the match for the team (& himself). No you said red, why??? and why wasn't a yellow sufficient?? [Post edited 14 Jan 15:19]
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He’s dived in, arguably recklessly as defined by the laws. Not a lot in it between that and Sunderland (again having not seen it back). There will be and have been softer challenges given red cards. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:35 - Jan 14 with 1561 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:21 - Jan 14 by gazza1 |
Why do you think that Livermore was Dykes man?? Was we 'man to man' marking then?? |
Gazza,
because he was,
not sure if you were concentrating in the 1st Half,
but Dykes was clearly staying close to and harrying Livermore, this was our game-plan, Dykes didnt close him down quick enough for that 1st goal. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:40 - Jan 14 with 1530 views | Damo1962 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 14:58 - Jan 14 by stevenagehoop |
Having no strikers is what is killing us. Four massive home games and two lost already. If we have no money to buy one with then it is division 1 for sure. If we have any to spend but haven’t got off our backsides to bring one in then that is shameful as it has been obvious for a long long time that we are lacking in that area.
To think I’ll be watching them at Stevenage next year is unbelievable- it really has gone badly wrong. |
Bet Chris Martin would have got on the end of one of those chances. Just saying like 🤔 | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:41 - Jan 14 with 1525 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:40 - Jan 14 by Damo1962 |
Bet Chris Martin would have got on the end of one of those chances. Just saying like 🤔 |
You mean like the one Dykes did today? | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:42 - Jan 14 with 1511 views | WestonsuperR |
An unbelievably frustrating match because we played very well for most of it, created plenty of chances for once and deserved to win. I actually prefer to be thoroughly outplayed because those losses are easier to take.
To go into a season with Kelman, Dykes and Armstrong (5 league goals between them) is ridiculous especially as we clearly had money to spend, see Colback and Cook, whoever made that decision has relegated us because I’m convinced with one decent striker we stay up. |  | | |
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| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:47 - Jan 14 with 1466 views | NW10Hoop |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:06 - Jan 14 by stevec |
If a top striker had Armstrongs 3 chances he’d have had a hatrick. A good striker would have scored 2. Devon White would have scored one of them.
We’re going down. |
Really enjoyed watching Sinclair Armstrong today. Apart from one finish where his first touch let him down, he caused them plenty of problems. Ran his socks off, and had the Loft on their feet plenty in the second half. Thought his performance deserved a goal really. If we are to go down and hold onto him, a season of tearing it up against league 1 defenders could do his career wonders. |  | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:48 - Jan 14 with 1455 views | Damo1962 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:41 - Jan 14 by ParkRoyalR |
You mean like the one Dykes did today? |
You know what I'm getting at...enjoy your little self righteous moment 🙄 | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:49 - Jan 14 with 1452 views | Red_Ranger |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:30 - Jan 14 by Watford_Ranger |
Because he’s our ‘attacking’ midfielder and he’s their defensive midfielder. |
Colback our defensive mid.
Anyhow, Livermore should definitely been picked up on both occasions | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:49 - Jan 14 with 1444 views | gazza1 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:30 - Jan 14 by Watford_Ranger |
Because he’s our ‘attacking’ midfielder and he’s their defensive midfielder. |
Sadly it just doesn't work like that on the pitch....and highlights your lack of understanding of football.
PS - Listen to the Manager speaking specifically about 'Jack' directly after the game.....I am a fan of 'Jack' as well but seemingly many do not see the importance of 'Jack' to the team - you being one of them!!! | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:51 - Jan 14 with 1430 views | Damo1962 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:24 - Jan 14 by joe90 |
We didn’t deserve to win and a draw would have been a fair result, but we lost and Watford deservedly took the 3 points. We also weren’t unlucky, the team were playing at the limit of their capabilities. Despite putting in a fairly good performance we were still not good enough. Sadly Armstrong does not have the composure for first team football and I fear that this season could have a detrimental impact on his development, but it’s a stark reflection of our limited squad.
As crazy as this sounds, I enjoyed the game. It was entertaining, but it was also crushing at the same time. We put in effort and it just wasn’t good enough, and that hurts. |
Perfectly sums up my feelings about today Joe 👍 | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:56 - Jan 14 with 1374 views | baz_qpr |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 14:30 - Jan 14 by Watford_Ranger |
Finishing is a big part of football. If you can’t finish you don’t deserve to win games.
Yes bloody Livermore who is older than time and scores about as often as a solar eclipse smashed two in but we should have been well ahead before they woke up a bit.
That midfield was absolute dross. Colback deserved a red and offered nothing on the ball at all. |
I thought Colback was excellent first half everything that Dozzell was not.At the end of the day we opened them up a number of times final ball was often not good enough, prime example being the one from Willock when 2- v 2 with Armstrong gave him a horrible bobbly pass or Paal getting around back 1st half and just blasting getting around the back and just blasting it. Desperately unlucky with the keeper save from Armstrong 1st half that Chair got outmuscled on. Even. our goal came from a deflected cross rather than a good one. |  | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:57 - Jan 14 with 1369 views | lassel |
If you miss 2, arguably 3 sitters and gift goals against then unfortunately you do deserve to lose.
The bigger issue is that as North has said before and will no doubt say in the report, Ipswich away, the lads like that one, turn up and put in a performance. Bournemouth at home, PL side, ooh we like that, we will give it a go. Watford on a Sunday, nice sunny day, sure why not, let’s play.
Next week, at home to a physical Millwall side they won’t play like that, they’ll play like a bunch of cnts and lose 0-2. Huddersfield at home? Nah don’t fancy any part of that, they’ll phone in a 0-1 defeat.
And that’s a large part of why Marti is so fcking furious right now behind the scenes. These guys *can* play, and *can* take it to an above average championship side, they *shouldnt* be where they are. But there is no fight, no desire, no professional pride in these guys and the second they experience a bit of adversity they just fold. The club spent way way more than it could afford on bringing in Colback to be the gritty bastard in the team and he’s on a personal mission to play as little as possible this year.. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:57 - Jan 14 with 1365 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:48 - Jan 14 by Damo1962 |
You know what I'm getting at...enjoy your little self righteous moment 🙄 |
You said Martin would have got on the end of one of those and I pointed out Dykes did?
Self righteous? Probably best describes your response. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:59 - Jan 14 with 1349 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:49 - Jan 14 by gazza1 |
Sadly it just doesn't work like that on the pitch....and highlights your lack of understanding of football.
PS - Listen to the Manager speaking specifically about 'Jack' directly after the game.....I am a fan of 'Jack' as well but seemingly many do not see the importance of 'Jack' to the team - you being one of them!!! |
Gazza, you're wrong on this one mate, Dykes was tasked with marking & tracking Livermore. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:00 - Jan 14 with 1346 views | gazza1 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:57 - Jan 14 by ParkRoyalR |
You said Martin would have got on the end of one of those and I pointed out Dykes did?
Self righteous? Probably best describes your response. |
Hey PRR.....I thought Dykes done a lot better today. Played a deeper role, got more time and space. His goal was easily taken but he was around at the start and ran into the box unmarked because he moved there quickly, instead of wondering what to do next. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:01 - Jan 14 with 1341 views | gazza1 |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:59 - Jan 14 by ParkRoyalR |
Gazza, you're wrong on this one mate, Dykes was tasked with marking & tracking Livermore. |
Never noticed that PRR.......interesting. (A CF marking a midfielder) | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:04 - Jan 14 with 1335 views | Harbour |
Is it me or did colback pull out of the block for the second goal? Or maybe he was just too slow…first goal fair play Livermore second we really should have stopped..beyond frustrating | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:07 - Jan 14 with 1313 views | FDC |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 14:56 - Jan 14 by PhilmyRs |
I thought Colback played well, the simple miss apart. The yellow was him taking one for the team because of poor play to give the ball away. Think we’re a better team with him in it. |
Yeah agree, Colback looked like what we've been missing recently, a player who always shows for a pass and looks to quickly move it forward. Just a shame he can't stay available for sustained periods |  | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:07 - Jan 14 with 1308 views | ParkRoyalR |
Agree Gazza,
Think it was Lanhoop / Lanshark (?) or another poster who was spot on about Dykes recently and something I'd not noticed,
Dykes 1st touch is actually decent enough (as seen a few times today) and its all relative at this level as Austin did'nt have exactly a great 1st touch, but its usually his 2nd or 3rd touch and when he starts running with the ball he's sometimes too easily dispossessed as does'nt use his body well enough to protect the ball (saw it once with him today but a few times with Cannon)
Makes you think that lads who didnt come up through street football (or playing in cages as they do now) don't have that muscle memory as to how to get your body shape right to protect the ball when in possession. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:07 - Jan 14 with 1307 views | lassel |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:04 - Jan 14 by Harbour |
Is it me or did colback pull out of the block for the second goal? Or maybe he was just too slow…first goal fair play Livermore second we really should have stopped..beyond frustrating |
Went straight through Colbacks legs.
And behind him Dunne turned his back and jumped over it. | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:08 - Jan 14 with 1302 views | baz_qpr |
I thought both Dykes and Armstrong were excellent especially in the build up play win that game 1-0 and we would be saying so. Chair and Willock struggled, I thought it was noticeable how much better Willock was on the left than on the right but that dreadful pass to Armstrong when 2 on 2 summer it up
Also if he plays can we have Dixon Bonner on set pieces please the few he took in the last 10 minutes were better than any in recent weeks pace and arc on the ball,
Sometimes you just know you are down when you have game like that when nothing falls to you and you lose to two 20 yard screamers | | | |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 16:08 - Jan 14 with 1300 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Didn't deserve to lose that on 15:49 - Jan 14 by gazza1 |
Sadly it just doesn't work like that on the pitch....and highlights your lack of understanding of football.
PS - Listen to the Manager speaking specifically about 'Jack' directly after the game.....I am a fan of 'Jack' as well but seemingly many do not see the importance of 'Jack' to the team - you being one of them!!! |
Unlike you he probably thought the bloke who had been marking Livermore all game was marking Livermore for the goal but then I can’t expect to have half your sofa wisdom. | | | |
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