| The 20MPH punishments 08:34 - Aug 3 with 140645 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well the punishment for breaking the limit,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-how-punish-drivers-
Given how many idiots are on the roads, the delivery drivers under pressure and the actual difficutly in staying below 20 (it is difficult, I do it every week when I go to Cardiff and it's harder than you'd think, specially going downhill) there will be a lot of speeding going on.
The Senedd expect the fire brigade to become a road safety unit, how stupid is that? The fire brigade have their job and it's hard enough for them to do that the way the Senedd behaves.
Then there's the pollution problem, all those cars tootling around in second gear will fill the streets with pollution, it'll rise and rise and the few accidents stopped by this madness will be replaced tenfold and more in the years to come by serious health issues, those with asthma can look out, better buy your respirators now.
I wonder if cancers will also increase?
By the time we have all gone electric, assuming we all do, thousands of lives will be blighted by illness. |  | | |  |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:16 - Dec 29 with 1315 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:00 - Dec 29 by controversial_jack |
i'm not sure what educating means, surely a speed limit is not exactly rocket science? |
If you don't understand then obviously you'd be the first that needs educating | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 11:33 - Dec 29 with 1310 views | AnotherJohn |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:00 - Dec 29 by controversial_jack |
i'm not sure what educating means, surely a speed limit is not exactly rocket science? |
I think Drakers meant he should have given Lifelong a job and a website.  | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:04 - Dec 29 with 1289 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:00 - Dec 29 by controversial_jack |
i'm not sure what educating means, surely a speed limit is not exactly rocket science? |
it seems to be rocket science for quite a few people. I was driving along the 20 stretch of Cwmavon road today, doing 20. A red Fiesta overtook me and sped away clearly doing a fair bit more than 20.
On that same road on boxing day a kid on a motorbike died.
I'mnot sure anybody needs educating about speed limits but too many certainly need educating about how to drive. Overtaking in an unsafe manner in the rain and gloomis dangerous and these are the drivers causing the accidents NOT a 30mph limit. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:12 - Dec 29 with 1278 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:16 - Dec 29 by Boundy |
If you don't understand then obviously you'd be the first that needs educating |
A sign showing max speed limit of 20mph, drive under that.Even you could get that | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:26 - Dec 30 with 1205 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:04 - Dec 29 by SullutaCreturned |
it seems to be rocket science for quite a few people. I was driving along the 20 stretch of Cwmavon road today, doing 20. A red Fiesta overtook me and sped away clearly doing a fair bit more than 20.
On that same road on boxing day a kid on a motorbike died.
I'mnot sure anybody needs educating about speed limits but too many certainly need educating about how to drive. Overtaking in an unsafe manner in the rain and gloomis dangerous and these are the drivers causing the accidents NOT a 30mph limit. |
What was a kid doing on a motorbike. Time parents took responsibility for their children and taught them right from wrong.
It is tragic so many young people are being killed on our roads. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 12:33 - Dec 30 with 1185 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:26 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
What was a kid doing on a motorbike. Time parents took responsibility for their children and taught them right from wrong.
It is tragic so many young people are being killed on our roads. |
So, it's the victims fault? | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:52 - Dec 30 with 1168 views | Boundy |
Who's the victim here. ? | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 18:19 - Dec 30 with 1139 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:52 - Dec 30 by Boundy |
Who's the victim here. ? |
Those who are killed or injured | | | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 20:41 - Dec 30 with 1121 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:19 - Dec 30 by controversial_jack |
Those who are killed or injured |
What about all parties,someone lost their life and that would affect everyone concerned, injured or not. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 21:09 - Dec 30 with 1105 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 20:41 - Dec 30 by Boundy |
What about all parties,someone lost their life and that would affect everyone concerned, injured or not. |
Of course! | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 21:11 - Dec 30 with 1106 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:19 - Dec 30 by controversial_jack |
Those who are killed or injured |
Yes ,it’s the victims fault .
It’s also the fault of parents who can’t either control their kids or imbue into them some sense of self care .
There again, you have a weird idea of what is fault,looking at the latest outrages in Kyiv . | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 21:25 - Dec 30 with 1100 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 21:11 - Dec 30 by onehunglow |
Yes ,it’s the victims fault .
It’s also the fault of parents who can’t either control their kids or imbue into them some sense of self care .
There again, you have a weird idea of what is fault,looking at the latest outrages in Kyiv . |
Whataboutery! | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:06 - Dec 30 with 1094 views | Dr_Winston |
When it comes to road accidents, it is indeed quite often the victims fault. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 22:23 - Dec 30 with 1083 views | SullutaCreturned |
lets see now, a 15 year old boy on a publci highway who had no licence, no tax, no insuranca and had most probably not had any lessons fromanybody qualified to teach....yes, he caused his own demise. helped along by whoever bought him the motorbike and allowed him to ride it illegally on a public highway.
Same as those two boys in Cardiff. Same as anybody who illegally drives vehicles, whatever happens to them is largely their own fault. I say largely because when idiots who have tax, insurance and a licence drive illegally it makes the likelihood of somebody dying increase. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:51 - Dec 30 with 1075 views | union_jack |
If Drakeford actually meant it should have been better publicised rather than people educated then I’d agree with him (probably a first).
Wales is a laughing stock and the butt of many a joke because people think all roads in Wales are 20 mph. This clearly isn’t the case and many roads are still 30 mph.
I don’t agree with it anyway though like many I believe there are places where 20 is plenty but not to the extent it’s been implemented. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 23:19 - Dec 30 with 1065 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:23 - Dec 30 by SullutaCreturned |
lets see now, a 15 year old boy on a publci highway who had no licence, no tax, no insuranca and had most probably not had any lessons fromanybody qualified to teach....yes, he caused his own demise. helped along by whoever bought him the motorbike and allowed him to ride it illegally on a public highway.
Same as those two boys in Cardiff. Same as anybody who illegally drives vehicles, whatever happens to them is largely their own fault. I say largely because when idiots who have tax, insurance and a licence drive illegally it makes the likelihood of somebody dying increase. |
and when I say all are victims , I include the driver of the car, the families involved , the emergency services & bystanders who try to help , an accident has a nasty habit of creating a ripple effect affecting more than first thought. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 11:12 - Dec 31 with 1024 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:51 - Dec 30 by union_jack |
If Drakeford actually meant it should have been better publicised rather than people educated then I’d agree with him (probably a first).
Wales is a laughing stock and the butt of many a joke because people think all roads in Wales are 20 mph. This clearly isn’t the case and many roads are still 30 mph.
I don’t agree with it anyway though like many I believe there are places where 20 is plenty but not to the extent it’s been implemented. |
It's nothing new. Most of London except for the main roads are 20mph. I don't know why so may are getting upset about having to drive a few mph slower to save live and yo help the NHS. They must be entitled selfish ppl | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:35 - Dec 31 with 1005 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:12 - Dec 31 by controversial_jack |
It's nothing new. Most of London except for the main roads are 20mph. I don't know why so may are getting upset about having to drive a few mph slower to save live and yo help the NHS. They must be entitled selfish ppl |
Oh you must try harder contro.
PS, try driving anywhere in London at more thn 20, even on the North circular, you often have to drudge along in first gear because it's so busy. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:36 - Dec 31 with 1001 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:35 - Dec 31 by SullutaCreturned |
Oh you must try harder contro.
PS, try driving anywhere in London at more thn 20, even on the North circular, you often have to drudge along in first gear because it's so busy. |
Yes, I know! | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:17 - Dec 31 with 985 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:35 - Dec 31 by SullutaCreturned |
Oh you must try harder contro.
PS, try driving anywhere in London at more thn 20, even on the North circular, you often have to drudge along in first gear because it's so busy. |
Why don't you try driving on the North Circular before commenting. You can easily go at 60mph on the main section from the Blackwall tunnels to the A10 junction.
All main dual carriageways into London have 50mph limits not the silly 30 mph that Swansea has on the Jersey Marine | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 12:19 - Dec 31 with 980 views | Whiterockin |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:12 - Dec 31 by controversial_jack |
It's nothing new. Most of London except for the main roads are 20mph. I don't know why so may are getting upset about having to drive a few mph slower to save live and yo help the NHS. They must be entitled selfish ppl |
I don't think you can compare the city of London and a country road in Dyfed. Nobody is saying there is no place for 20 mph limits, but a default limit is ridiculous. I am glad that Vaughan Gething has said that if he becomes First Minister he will conduct a review in response to the petition, that is more than Drakeford would do. |  | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:33 - Dec 31 with 976 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:19 - Dec 31 by Whiterockin |
I don't think you can compare the city of London and a country road in Dyfed. Nobody is saying there is no place for 20 mph limits, but a default limit is ridiculous. I am glad that Vaughan Gething has said that if he becomes First Minister he will conduct a review in response to the petition, that is more than Drakeford would do. |
As long as it is a proper review and not just pre-election hot air. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 14:12 - Dec 31 with 958 views | majorraglan |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:33 - Dec 31 by felixstowe_jack |
As long as it is a proper review and not just pre-election hot air. |
Spot on, 100 agree with you. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:22 - Dec 31 with 953 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:17 - Dec 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Why don't you try driving on the North Circular before commenting. You can easily go at 60mph on the main section from the Blackwall tunnels to the A10 junction.
All main dual carriageways into London have 50mph limits not the silly 30 mph that Swansea has on the Jersey Marine |
I have driven on the North circular, no need to get snarky and make a bad assumption. One time I queued for ages and at one point didn't go more than a few feet in half an hour in the Blackwall tunnel. There was an accident though.
I have drive in London many times and it's never been a great experience. The last time was at QPR last season, getting there was ok, fairly easy but leaving London after the game was really hard work. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:42 - Dec 31 with 947 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 12:19 - Dec 31 by Whiterockin |
I don't think you can compare the city of London and a country road in Dyfed. Nobody is saying there is no place for 20 mph limits, but a default limit is ridiculous. I am glad that Vaughan Gething has said that if he becomes First Minister he will conduct a review in response to the petition, that is more than Drakeford would do. |
Gethin will say anything ,there's an election soon and the sheep will believe him , the lies the promises they'll say anything to appease the masses. He was a very strong supporter of its implementation so why other the fear of losing power would he say any thing different | |
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