| The 20MPH punishments 08:34 - Aug 3 with 140656 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well the punishment for breaking the limit,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-how-punish-drivers-
Given how many idiots are on the roads, the delivery drivers under pressure and the actual difficutly in staying below 20 (it is difficult, I do it every week when I go to Cardiff and it's harder than you'd think, specially going downhill) there will be a lot of speeding going on.
The Senedd expect the fire brigade to become a road safety unit, how stupid is that? The fire brigade have their job and it's hard enough for them to do that the way the Senedd behaves.
Then there's the pollution problem, all those cars tootling around in second gear will fill the streets with pollution, it'll rise and rise and the few accidents stopped by this madness will be replaced tenfold and more in the years to come by serious health issues, those with asthma can look out, better buy your respirators now.
I wonder if cancers will also increase?
By the time we have all gone electric, assuming we all do, thousands of lives will be blighted by illness. |  | | |  |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:48 - Nov 19 with 1211 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:31 - Nov 19 by onehunglow |
I’ve been on the roads since 1966.
It’s always been thus
Motorists complain but do nothing
Easy target for money |
I agree about us drivers being a easy target but its getting beyond ridiculous now, | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 19:03 - Nov 19 with 1171 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:25 - Nov 19 by Boundy |
I've seen that term "cracking down on motorists " quite a bit lately, just what have we as a volleying done exactly to warrant this relentless war against those of us who drive cars , we can't go anywhere without a camera picking up whether the vehicles mot's, taxed or insured , speed limits now imposed on new roads ,no new roads to be built ,the state of the roads coditions is an embarrassment to a so called modern society.
I drive an old diesel car which has all of the above , it's serviced regularly, repaired when required ,recently passed another MOT with no advisores including an emissions test. My car tax is £300 , monthly fuel bill £90. I have clean license no points ever, I've been fortunate not to ever claim on my insurance in over 40+ years yet despite that my insurance will double on its next renewal ,now I have to plod along at sub 20mph for the pleasure of getting to A to B .I never ever thought I'd ever say this but I'm beginning to hate the country I live in |
I dont hate the country just what the politicians are doing to it. I do hate driving though and long for the day I can just dump the car. I may have another 10 years for that though. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:16 - Nov 19 with 1145 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:03 - Nov 19 by SullutaCreturned |
I dont hate the country just what the politicians are doing to it. I do hate driving though and long for the day I can just dump the car. I may have another 10 years for that though. |
Then I wish my feelings could be as tempered as yours appear to be , its ok to be a nationalistic Welshman but not a Brit, we have politicians using nationalism as a tool to promote their agendas , Drakeford's "we do differently in Wales " is meant to be a comfort blanket to those who are dull enough to believe in this faux socialist party " leading" our country.
Your title for this thread is so accurate because that's what happening to us , we're being punished because they know there's enough voter support in the country with so little imagination that they will vote for anyone who wears a red rosette and with that knowledge know they have free rein to do what they want with little or no recourse . 23 years has shown us that we as a nation cannot move forward without a complete reset , hopefully the growing dissent towards these attacks on the motorist is a start albeit a small on towards a change in peoples attitude to politics and how they want their country run , we deserve so much more than what this rabble of 3rd rate so called politicians can ever give us | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 19:05 - Nov 20 with 1068 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:48 - Nov 19 by Boundy |
I agree about us drivers being a easy target but its getting beyond ridiculous now, |
Most motorist would lose a limb before their car .
It’s that precious
Imagine relying on public transport in downtown Rhayader or Moria Nefyn.
Imagine dumping your car then having to get regular chemo at a hospital 50 miles away | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 21:01 - Nov 20 with 1022 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:16 - Nov 19 by Boundy |
Then I wish my feelings could be as tempered as yours appear to be , its ok to be a nationalistic Welshman but not a Brit, we have politicians using nationalism as a tool to promote their agendas , Drakeford's "we do differently in Wales " is meant to be a comfort blanket to those who are dull enough to believe in this faux socialist party " leading" our country.
Your title for this thread is so accurate because that's what happening to us , we're being punished because they know there's enough voter support in the country with so little imagination that they will vote for anyone who wears a red rosette and with that knowledge know they have free rein to do what they want with little or no recourse . 23 years has shown us that we as a nation cannot move forward without a complete reset , hopefully the growing dissent towards these attacks on the motorist is a start albeit a small on towards a change in peoples attitude to politics and how they want their country run , we deserve so much more than what this rabble of 3rd rate so called politicians can ever give us |
Your last line is something I have said more than once but there is a small group on here who will round on your for darig to criticise th Senedd, to them it's anti Welsh and anti Wales.
Anybody who will always vote labour no matter what is as bad as anybody who will vote tory no matter what. We should think about who we vote for and not keep repeating the same mistakes.
Maybe the 470,000+ who signd that petition will make a difference at the net Senedd election! | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 07:35 - Nov 21 with 965 views | builthjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:05 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
Most motorist would lose a limb before their car .
It’s that precious
Imagine relying on public transport in downtown Rhayader or Moria Nefyn.
Imagine dumping your car then having to get regular chemo at a hospital 50 miles away |
Public transport is actually very good in Rhayader. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 09:06 - Nov 21 with 946 views | Boundy |
I just read that , so all of a sudden bus lanes are safe to exceed the " safer " speed limit . It beggers belief that the dimwits keep getting into power. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 09:06 - Nov 21 with 945 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 07:35 - Nov 21 by builthjack |
Public transport is actually very good in Rhayader. |
The only problem with that is the majority of the population don't live there and I doubt most have not or will find the need to go there [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 9:11]
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| The 20MPH punishments on 09:12 - Nov 21 with 942 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The 20MPH punishments on 07:35 - Nov 21 by builthjack |
Public transport is actually very good in Rhayader. |
The trouble is you can't get there! |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 09:17 - Nov 21 with 938 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The 20MPH punishments on 09:06 - Nov 21 by Boundy |
I just read that , so all of a sudden bus lanes are safe to exceed the " safer " speed limit . It beggers belief that the dimwits keep getting into power. |
Bus numbers and passenger numbers in decline and of course our railways are hopeless.
The Senedd seems detached from this reality,
"Centre for Cities has found Wales has the second lowest levels of bus ridership in the UK and its bus network has shrunk the most."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67482912 | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 09:22 - Nov 21 with 936 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 07:35 - Nov 21 by builthjack |
Public transport is actually very good in Rhayader. |
I choose that village intentionally . It proves you defend the indefensible .
You know farmers . How would they manage without cars,tractors,lorries ,vans .
You seriously expecting people to dump their cars in favour of public transport in deepest Wales .City dwellers have no idea of the sheer isolation and lack of basic facilities .
Need a doctor urgently,pop on a bus?
Need a dentist ?
It’s much worse in rural Scotland and the islands . | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 13:12 - Nov 21 with 870 views | onehunglow |
Lot of resistance in this part of the world .
We have urban and rural areas that this would affect
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| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Nov 21 with 861 views | controversial_jack |
I was told by a driving instructor, that, when enforcement begins, the tolerance will be just 22 mph. That will shake up a few of those who think the laws don't apply to them brigade | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:39 - Nov 21 with 845 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Nov 21 by controversial_jack |
I was told by a driving instructor, that, when enforcement begins, the tolerance will be just 22 mph. That will shake up a few of those who think the laws don't apply to them brigade |
Couldn't have been the one who just passed me driving between Lonlas and Skewen , they must be exempt | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 18:42 - Nov 21 with 799 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Nov 21 by controversial_jack |
I was told by a driving instructor, that, when enforcement begins, the tolerance will be just 22 mph. That will shake up a few of those who think the laws don't apply to them brigade |
Not sure the police could enforce that. They would have to guarantee that their speed equipment is tested and calibrated daily. That is why most speed limits for enforcement are 10% plus 2mph
30 is 3 plus 2 35mph
70 is 7 plus 2 79mph
20 would be 2 plus 2 24mph.
Anything tighter would be open to an appeal and proof of calibration records would soon clog up our courts. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 18:59 - Nov 21 with 791 views | lifelong |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:42 - Nov 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Not sure the police could enforce that. They would have to guarantee that their speed equipment is tested and calibrated daily. That is why most speed limits for enforcement are 10% plus 2mph
30 is 3 plus 2 35mph
70 is 7 plus 2 79mph
20 would be 2 plus 2 24mph.
Anything tighter would be open to an appeal and proof of calibration records would soon clog up our courts. |
Why over complicate matters, just stick to the speed limit and you won’t get booked. |  | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:39 - Nov 21 with 784 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:59 - Nov 21 by lifelong |
Why over complicate matters, just stick to the speed limit and you won’t get booked. |
Very simplistic response. Your speedometers is calibrated during the build process after that its accuracy is more that questionable .
Speed is the measurement of distance over time. But a car speedometer doesn’t actually measure how fast you travel from Point A to Point B. Car speedos usually work by measuring rotation of the car’s driveshaft, axle or wheel. They then use some basic maths to extrapolate that rotation and determine how fast you are travelling. It’s a very similar concept to a bicycle speedometer.
However, if the diameter of the wheel/tyre alters, the extrapolation calculation will be incorrect. For example, the diameter will increase if you put new tyres on the car (more tread, which wears down over thousands of miles) or increase the tyre pressure. This means that, for each revolution of the wheel, the car is travelling further, meaning your speed is greater.
If the diameter decreases (eg – worn tyres, less air in the tyres, a different brand of tyre with slightly different dimensions), then the car will be travelling a shorter distance for each revolution of the wheel, therefore you will be going slower | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 19:45 - Nov 21 with 779 views | lifelong |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:39 - Nov 21 by Boundy |
Very simplistic response. Your speedometers is calibrated during the build process after that its accuracy is more that questionable .
Speed is the measurement of distance over time. But a car speedometer doesn’t actually measure how fast you travel from Point A to Point B. Car speedos usually work by measuring rotation of the car’s driveshaft, axle or wheel. They then use some basic maths to extrapolate that rotation and determine how fast you are travelling. It’s a very similar concept to a bicycle speedometer.
However, if the diameter of the wheel/tyre alters, the extrapolation calculation will be incorrect. For example, the diameter will increase if you put new tyres on the car (more tread, which wears down over thousands of miles) or increase the tyre pressure. This means that, for each revolution of the wheel, the car is travelling further, meaning your speed is greater.
If the diameter decreases (eg – worn tyres, less air in the tyres, a different brand of tyre with slightly different dimensions), then the car will be travelling a shorter distance for each revolution of the wheel, therefore you will be going slower |
I’ll try and remember that when I’m driving past Gorseinon College tomorrow morning. 👍 | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:46 - Nov 21 with 778 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:39 - Nov 21 by Boundy |
Very simplistic response. Your speedometers is calibrated during the build process after that its accuracy is more that questionable .
Speed is the measurement of distance over time. But a car speedometer doesn’t actually measure how fast you travel from Point A to Point B. Car speedos usually work by measuring rotation of the car’s driveshaft, axle or wheel. They then use some basic maths to extrapolate that rotation and determine how fast you are travelling. It’s a very similar concept to a bicycle speedometer.
However, if the diameter of the wheel/tyre alters, the extrapolation calculation will be incorrect. For example, the diameter will increase if you put new tyres on the car (more tread, which wears down over thousands of miles) or increase the tyre pressure. This means that, for each revolution of the wheel, the car is travelling further, meaning your speed is greater.
If the diameter decreases (eg – worn tyres, less air in the tyres, a different brand of tyre with slightly different dimensions), then the car will be travelling a shorter distance for each revolution of the wheel, therefore you will be going slower |
you need a girlfriend or a sock …. Yawn off ! |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 19:55 - Nov 21 with 764 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 19:46 - Nov 21 by Kilkennyjack |
you need a girlfriend or a sock …. Yawn off ! |
I take it that my post went straight over your head, never mind when you're old enough to drive take this as a bit of free advice | |
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