| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. 05:18 - Apr 1 with 11291 views | TalkingSutty |
Our best ever CEO and somebody who has done a great job at Vale Park. Good luck in whatever you decide to do next Colin. [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 5:20]
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 08:54 - Apr 1 with 8193 views | Dalenet |
The sad thing for Colin is that he appears to have been pushed to allow for more Board involvement in the running of the club. The fans seem unhappy. How we would like a more public facing CEO/COO today. No idea of the capability of George Delves as we never hear from him. |  | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 09:57 - Apr 1 with 8119 views | electricblue |
Colin should be welcomed back with open arms imo.
Delves can take another role.....
The CEO of a football club requires experience and that is what is required today plus it will be a step forward by the club. |  |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 09:57 - Apr 1 with 8116 views | foreverhopefulDale |
Could he perform a DOF role? I know he knows how to do contracts and sales of players well, but does he know enough to be a DOF? Could he perform some kind of role back at our Club that would add and support the first team and manager? |  |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:02 - Apr 1 with 8102 views | BigKindo |
From the Beeb.
"Port Vale: Chief executive Colin Garlick to leave as part of club restructure
Last updated on31 March 202331 March 2023.
Colin Garlick was appointed as Vale chief executive in May 2017
Colin Garlick is to leave Port Vale after six-and-a-half years' service with the League One club.
Garlick, 63, who fills the combined roles of chief executive/club secretary, is leaving as part of a shake-up behind the scenes in Burslem.
The ex-Macclesfield and Rochdale chief executive joined Vale in September 2016 under then owner Norman Smurthwaite before becoming CEO in May 2017.
He then helped the Vale takeover process by the Shanahan family in 2019.
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"We would like to place on record our sincere appreciation to Colin for his support and commitment," said Vale co-owner Carol Shanahan.
"Especially in the early days when we purchased the club, during which time his football administration knowledge, understanding of the industry and experience was invaluable to us."
Garlick will depart, and also leave his role as a trustee of the Port Vale Foundation, after Saturday's League One fixture against Cambridge United.
Vale, who are 16th in League One following last season's promotion, say his departure is part of a restructure of the club's board of directors and leadership group." |  | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:11 - Apr 1 with 8089 views | TalkingSutty |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:02 - Apr 1 by BigKindo |
From the Beeb.
"Port Vale: Chief executive Colin Garlick to leave as part of club restructure
Last updated on31 March 202331 March 2023.
Colin Garlick was appointed as Vale chief executive in May 2017
Colin Garlick is to leave Port Vale after six-and-a-half years' service with the League One club.
Garlick, 63, who fills the combined roles of chief executive/club secretary, is leaving as part of a shake-up behind the scenes in Burslem.
The ex-Macclesfield and Rochdale chief executive joined Vale in September 2016 under then owner Norman Smurthwaite before becoming CEO in May 2017.
He then helped the Vale takeover process by the Shanahan family in 2019.
Listen to BBC Radio Stoke's Wembley of the North podcast
"We would like to place on record our sincere appreciation to Colin for his support and commitment," said Vale co-owner Carol Shanahan.
"Especially in the early days when we purchased the club, during which time his football administration knowledge, understanding of the industry and experience was invaluable to us."
Garlick will depart, and also leave his role as a trustee of the Port Vale Foundation, after Saturday's League One fixture against Cambridge United.
Vale, who are 16th in League One following last season's promotion, say his departure is part of a restructure of the club's board of directors and leadership group." |
Our club is crying out for a man of his calibre, he won't be out of work for long. I know he still holds the club close to his heart because he told me last year. [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 10:13]
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:21 - Apr 1 with 8026 views | BigKindo |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:11 - Apr 1 by TalkingSutty |
Our club is crying out for a man of his calibre, he won't be out of work for long. I know he still holds the club close to his heart because he told me last year. [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 10:13]
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Wasn't one of the reasons for his leaving was that Colin was having to travel to and from Macclesfield 5 days a week, 6 when there was a home fixture on Saturdays. I think that he arrived and departed post rush hour making them very long days. Port Vale was, perhaps, a less stressful commute. Wonder if their DoF 'Flickers' is also involved in the 'restructure' of the club. | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:29 - Apr 1 with 8010 views | TalkingSutty |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:21 - Apr 1 by BigKindo |
Wasn't one of the reasons for his leaving was that Colin was having to travel to and from Macclesfield 5 days a week, 6 when there was a home fixture on Saturdays. I think that he arrived and departed post rush hour making them very long days. Port Vale was, perhaps, a less stressful commute. Wonder if their DoF 'Flickers' is also involved in the 'restructure' of the club. |
Yes, i think that was the main reason. | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:40 - Apr 1 with 7945 views | Dalenet |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 10:21 - Apr 1 by BigKindo |
Wasn't one of the reasons for his leaving was that Colin was having to travel to and from Macclesfield 5 days a week, 6 when there was a home fixture on Saturdays. I think that he arrived and departed post rush hour making them very long days. Port Vale was, perhaps, a less stressful commute. Wonder if their DoF 'Flickers' is also involved in the 'restructure' of the club. |
Yes it was - we could offer him a part time role with George Delves behind the scenes managing the operations. George could learn from Colin for the future. Meanwhile Colin could choose which days he comes in to support his travel challenge and provide the support to the Board and help manage player recruitment. Win win | | | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 11:55 - Apr 1 with 7785 views | EllDale |
In this day and age couldn’t he work from home for part of the week? | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 15:57 - Apr 1 with 7427 views | TomRAFC |
We should absolutely pounce on this, assuming the club/someone else hasn't already.
I'd like to think a reasonable deal could be reached for all parties concerned.
Prior to last forum, I had mentioned George's lack of visibility. He spoke well about the situation with Ethan, and I had a chat with him after as I'd often wondered about the Bottomley shares he received. He was very amiable and honest, but we have a tremendous opportunity to bring in someone who could run a football club with his eyes closed. | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:06 - Apr 1 with 7369 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 15:57 - Apr 1 by TomRAFC |
We should absolutely pounce on this, assuming the club/someone else hasn't already.
I'd like to think a reasonable deal could be reached for all parties concerned.
Prior to last forum, I had mentioned George's lack of visibility. He spoke well about the situation with Ethan, and I had a chat with him after as I'd often wondered about the Bottomley shares he received. He was very amiable and honest, but we have a tremendous opportunity to bring in someone who could run a football club with his eyes closed. |
At his age, it's possible he'll have one eye on retirement in which case a part-time role might be very appealing, especially somewhere he's familiar with and which could add real value
If we didn't at least enter discussions with him it'd be very poor. He'd do more and at less cost than management consultants although that's seemingly happening regardless |  |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:14 - Apr 1 with 7327 views | 49thseason |
I think we are going to have to wait to see what the MRTK investigations reveal about the club and its management before we can expect any major changes to personnel. It seems clear to the BoD and the supporters that doing what we have been doing isn't working so the review might suggest dramatic changes, particularly as it seems the BoD is expecting them to have an ongoing role...."MRKT Insights will continue to provide an ongoing service to the Board and management following the initial review." |  | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:25 - Apr 1 with 7285 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:14 - Apr 1 by 49thseason |
I think we are going to have to wait to see what the MRTK investigations reveal about the club and its management before we can expect any major changes to personnel. It seems clear to the BoD and the supporters that doing what we have been doing isn't working so the review might suggest dramatic changes, particularly as it seems the BoD is expecting them to have an ongoing role...."MRKT Insights will continue to provide an ongoing service to the Board and management following the initial review." |
It's also a damned good way of deflecting responsibility | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:35 - Apr 1 with 7240 views | 442Dale |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:25 - Apr 1 by D_Alien |
It's also a damned good way of deflecting responsibility |
And giving the can a Paul Butler clearance. |  |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:39 - Apr 1 with 7226 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:35 - Apr 1 by 442Dale |
And giving the can a Paul Butler clearance. |
That's what we pay our SC money to see, not to line external business pockets | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 17:35 - Apr 1 with 7072 views | 49thseason |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 16:39 - Apr 1 by D_Alien |
That's what we pay our SC money to see, not to line external business pockets |
So, I take it you think that there is no need to get an objective view of where the club stands and what the options there may be going forward? The future of club is clearly still in jeopardy and the board are taking steps to solve the problems. If not this then what? They have more money on the line than anyone else, they are taking time out of their own lives and businesses to fix the problems and they have concluded they need some expert help and advice...why is that an issue? I repeat... if not this then what? | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 17:45 - Apr 1 with 7035 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 17:35 - Apr 1 by 49thseason |
So, I take it you think that there is no need to get an objective view of where the club stands and what the options there may be going forward? The future of club is clearly still in jeopardy and the board are taking steps to solve the problems. If not this then what? They have more money on the line than anyone else, they are taking time out of their own lives and businesses to fix the problems and they have concluded they need some expert help and advice...why is that an issue? I repeat... if not this then what? |
An experienced and visible Chief Exec with a proven track record in football
CG becoming available is just one example - there will be others. Since he's topical, his departure from Dale could well be looked upon as the real starting point of our decline, creating a vacancy which was taken advantage of, following some shenanigans
If we were still flying high in L1 with gates holding up, i might see the value in the consultancy to take us to the next level. As it stands, i honestly see it as something which has every chance of not adding value whilst adding to the cost burden. The consultancy have a decent enough track record, but not at clubs in Dale's position
You asked "if not this then what". That's what
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 17:46 - Apr 1 with 7019 views | 442Dale |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 17:35 - Apr 1 by 49thseason |
So, I take it you think that there is no need to get an objective view of where the club stands and what the options there may be going forward? The future of club is clearly still in jeopardy and the board are taking steps to solve the problems. If not this then what? They have more money on the line than anyone else, they are taking time out of their own lives and businesses to fix the problems and they have concluded they need some expert help and advice...why is that an issue? I repeat... if not this then what? |
Nobody is saying that it isn’t necessary. It’s asking for a better explanation of why we are changing approach, both from being “fan owned” and also why this move to a “committee” on the football side is being looked at.
Once more, everyone appreciates the time, money and efforts the board have all made in the past, but that is becoming a repetitive subject that does not actually move us forward with respect to understanding why these changes have/are occurring.
Presumably if there is an “objective view” of where we stand and options in the future, there is also a plan to communicate these better with regular, detailed updates for supporters?
Edit: ok some may think it’s not necessary! However, the points are valid. Yes, the board need help but why do we need to take this route? [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 17:51]
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:03 - Apr 1 with 6951 views | fourfourtwo |
As much as I would love to see CG come back to Spotland. We currently have someone filling the role. May I ask what we do with GD? Are we to just sack him? Is that even legal? Or do we have two people doing the same role taking her more money from the playing budget?
Given his age and the career he’s had I would very much imagine he will be setting himself up for retirement. Restructure/redundancy isn’t going to come empty handed now is it. | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:23 - Apr 1 with 6902 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:03 - Apr 1 by fourfourtwo |
As much as I would love to see CG come back to Spotland. We currently have someone filling the role. May I ask what we do with GD? Are we to just sack him? Is that even legal? Or do we have two people doing the same role taking her more money from the playing budget?
Given his age and the career he’s had I would very much imagine he will be setting himself up for retirement. Restructure/redundancy isn’t going to come empty handed now is it. |
COO is a different role, with far less input into the direction the club should take
I think you know that | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:25 - Apr 1 with 6894 views | oddjob007 |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:03 - Apr 1 by fourfourtwo |
As much as I would love to see CG come back to Spotland. We currently have someone filling the role. May I ask what we do with GD? Are we to just sack him? Is that even legal? Or do we have two people doing the same role taking her more money from the playing budget?
Given his age and the career he’s had I would very much imagine he will be setting himself up for retirement. Restructure/redundancy isn’t going to come empty handed now is it. |
Of course we can choose to get rid of someone - it’ll just cost us, unless there’s evidence of him not performing.
Does anyone have any evidence of how well the job our Chief Exec is doing?!
I’m not sure on the structure of the club and who makes the decisions, but I have a feeling GD’s role is somewhat different to his predecessors… | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:05 - Apr 1 with 6813 views | TomRAFC |
MRKT have a remit that focuses very much on the footballing side of things, which is something we sorely need. There is more to running a football club than the remit of MRKT, there's a whole world of off the pitch operations, which is in equal need of a review. I can't think of a better man to do that than Colin Garlick.
I'd welcome him back as full time CEO in a heartbeat. If he wants a short-term/part-time contract where he has an access all areas role of whipping the non-footballing side of things into shape, then that's fine by me. | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:16 - Apr 1 with 6783 views | fourfourtwo |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 18:23 - Apr 1 by D_Alien |
COO is a different role, with far less input into the direction the club should take
I think you know that |
It’s not though really is it.
We replaced a CEO with a COO and both are ultimately responsible for the day to day runnings of the club.
I think you know that.
What structure would you like to see us run with to bring CG back to the club? I’m intrigued. | | | |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:31 - Apr 1 with 6722 views | D_Alien |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:16 - Apr 1 by fourfourtwo |
It’s not though really is it.
We replaced a CEO with a COO and both are ultimately responsible for the day to day runnings of the club.
I think you know that.
What structure would you like to see us run with to bring CG back to the club? I’m intrigued. |
It was a quite deliberate move by the new board to change the emphasis from CEO to COO after the defenestration of the last CEO with the toxicity he brought to the club
Of course you know that
As a result, the executive function has been found wanting due to inexperience, otherwise we wouldn't be bringing in external "help". The appointment of someone with executive skills within football, which goes beyond what the current COO involves (which is more akin to the old "club secretary" function) would imo achieve the same thing, and that role would at least have some skin in the game
The role would, for instance, involve overseeing the appointment of those in a football management/coaching role, which it's been admitted by the current BoD was something outside their abilities. There's no need to be too prescriptive about this, but the kind of creative thinking required to shift the dial doesn't have to come from a consultancy which the fans would have no attachment to, and which could then (as previously stated) be used to absolve those within the club of responsibility | |
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| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:52 - Apr 1 with 6657 views | fourfourtwo |
| Colin Garlick leaves Port Vale. on 19:31 - Apr 1 by D_Alien |
It was a quite deliberate move by the new board to change the emphasis from CEO to COO after the defenestration of the last CEO with the toxicity he brought to the club
Of course you know that
As a result, the executive function has been found wanting due to inexperience, otherwise we wouldn't be bringing in external "help". The appointment of someone with executive skills within football, which goes beyond what the current COO involves (which is more akin to the old "club secretary" function) would imo achieve the same thing, and that role would at least have some skin in the game
The role would, for instance, involve overseeing the appointment of those in a football management/coaching role, which it's been admitted by the current BoD was something outside their abilities. There's no need to be too prescriptive about this, but the kind of creative thinking required to shift the dial doesn't have to come from a consultancy which the fans would have no attachment to, and which could then (as previously stated) be used to absolve those within the club of responsibility |
I hope you know that waffling a load of bollocks such as that neither makes you appear likeable or informed.
I’d say the main reason for the change of job title was the toxicity of the CEO title being associated with DB. That’s it.
Now back in the real world, we are much more likely to see the club appoint a DOF rather than bring CG back to the club. As I said. There is already somebody employed in that role. | | | |
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