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Which echoes my personal take on things at the time of his interview. I wrote in a post that there’s only gonna be one winner in a battle between owners and manager, especially a manager who’s team consistently underachieves, and that winner won’t be Russ.
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:11 - Feb 4 with 5412 views
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:26 - Feb 4 by Sirjohnalot
Or does he think they’re selling up ?
They have been selling up for 6 years. A "quip flip" was often referred to by the forum sages.
Martin is now faced with the fact his principles are not working in the championship. Millwall was 2-0 down and got two late headed own goals by Wood and Darling. Millwall had been outclassed and should have been out of sight.
It happened too often last season ABFC and Reading went for the throat and Swansea defence crumbled.
Need a physical fullback? Sure Matthew Sorinola is not it. Martin's talk of needing time and training period is not being translated into wins. Games and points are being throw away casually with the "we will learn and look at it".
Swansea had tough nut Monk and Williams they did not get bullied by anyone. Nothing wrong with a 6 ft 5 in keeper either.
Wise sage since Toshack era
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:44 - Feb 4 with 5230 views
From choosing war with the owners, making all subs one by one by 70 odd mins and taking off a striker on a hat-trick you can only come to one conclusion. He’s using the football manager equivalent of death by cop. He has said he won’t walk but he’s following the playbook of a manager who wants out.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:35 - Feb 4 by swan65split
Not by his demeanour at the end of todays game.
Its going to be a very trying period for the club IMO
On the anniversary of the departure of Laudrup.
I was just thinking at around 5.00pm today that that 2-0 defeat at West Ham that preceded Laudrup's sacking was nothing compared with what happened today. There have been many lows since relegation, but this was probably the nadir.
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:45 - Feb 4 with 5227 views
Whatever anyone thinks about Russell Martin, he stood up and spoke out about these clowns running the club.........the guy speaks his mind, it will likely get him in trouble but it shows he cares.
We have had too many lies from people so it's refreshing to hear someone being honest.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:45 - Feb 4 by magicdaps10
Whatever anyone thinks about Russell Martin, he stood up and spoke out about these clowns running the club.........the guy speaks his mind, it will likely get him in trouble but it shows he cares.
We have had too many lies from people so it's refreshing to hear someone being honest.
What sort of lies are you talking about exactly?
Russell’s job this week was a simple one, to show unity and togetherness throughout the club, unfortunately he took the option to absolve himself from any culpability of past, current or future issues and decided to create an us vs them situation.
He cares about himself, not the club. That was not in the best interests of the club, it was self serving.
These owners are running the club well, some errors in places of course, but their main remit is to ensure we have a good squad and a healthy financial situation - we have both.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:26 - Feb 4 by Sirjohnalot
Or does he think they’re selling up ?
Even if they do sell up will the new owners want Martin in charge?
I'll repeat my opinion that despite everything we have a good enough team to be doing better IF we were managed effectively.
The wing back stuff, the suicidal football at the back, it has to stop (as does the silly goal kick routine that nearly always puts us in danger) and we have to be quicker going forward. it's simple stuff really and any deent manager would already have eliminated that which doesn't work.
Whatever happens I don't see Russ being here next season. I doubt he'll quit though, he'll wait to be sacked so he gets a pay off. or maybe he's more honourable than that and will tell the owners to stuff it where the sun don't shine. I think I may already have done that if in his position.
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:51 - Feb 4 with 5175 views
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:42 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1
They have been selling up for 6 years. A "quip flip" was often referred to by the forum sages.
Martin is now faced with the fact his principles are not working in the championship. Millwall was 2-0 down and got two late headed own goals by Wood and Darling. Millwall had been outclassed and should have been out of sight.
It happened too often last season ABFC and Reading went for the throat and Swansea defence crumbled.
Need a physical fullback? Sure Matthew Sorinola is not it. Martin's talk of needing time and training period is not being translated into wins. Games and points are being throw away casually with the "we will learn and look at it".
Swansea had tough nut Monk and Williams they did not get bullied by anyone. Nothing wrong with a 6 ft 5 in keeper either.
This post was a bit like rocking horse poop for 2 reasons:
1. I agree with you 2. You didn’t mention the Trust
So Swansea City what was it that attracted you to a manager whose managerial career amounted to 19th and 13th in the third division before you swooped to capture the signature of such an exciting emerging talent?
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:11 - Feb 4 with 5029 views
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:45 - Feb 4 by magicdaps10
Whatever anyone thinks about Russell Martin, he stood up and spoke out about these clowns running the club.........the guy speaks his mind, it will likely get him in trouble but it shows he cares.
We have had too many lies from people so it's refreshing to hear someone being honest.
Stuff the caring, whoever it is for, the club needs managerial competence.
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:13 - Feb 4 with 5011 views
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:57 - Feb 4 by BarrySwan
So Swansea City what was it that attracted you to a manager whose managerial career amounted to 19th and 13th in the third division before you swooped to capture the signature of such an exciting emerging talent?
For me the fact had he been supported more, it may well have worked.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:13 - Feb 4 by KeithHaynes
For me the fact had he been supported more, it may well have worked.
Surely the fact that he failed to recognise that he has a collection of defenders who talent wise are even slower of deed than thought but yet continued to persuade them to attempt to play a skilful passing game that they are clearly nowhere good enough to successfully achieve in any way shape or form hints at a reason why he should not have been appointed or left in the post for so long anyway.
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Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:23 - Feb 4 with 4927 views
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:13 - Feb 4 by KeithHaynes
For me the fact had he been supported more, it may well have worked.
I still fail to see how he could have been supported any more than he has.
A couple of faces in this window, probably. (Although the names mentioned don’t convince me that anything would change). But that was never going to change what we have seen for the last 18 months and counting.
The time he’s been given, the freedom he’s been given, the support to buy/bring in players from his old club (Sorinola, Laird, Fisher, Darling) - many of which end up on the bench… I can’t think of another manager been supported more, especially when he returns so little.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 20:21 - Feb 4 by BarrySwan
Surely the fact that he failed to recognise that he has a collection of defenders who talent wise are even slower of deed than thought but yet continued to persuade them to attempt to play a skilful passing game that they are clearly nowhere good enough to successfully achieve in any way shape or form hints at a reason why he should not have been appointed or left in the post for so long anyway.
His appointment was very brave, now tonight the fact he is still at Swansea could well be a point.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:45 - Feb 4 by magicdaps10
Whatever anyone thinks about Russell Martin, he stood up and spoke out about these clowns running the club.........the guy speaks his mind, it will likely get him in trouble but it shows he cares.
We have had too many lies from people so it's refreshing to hear someone being honest.
Speaks his mind! Like Pato and Obefemi are “ great people”
Russ admits his presser has upset owners on 19:45 - Feb 4 by magicdaps10
Whatever anyone thinks about Russell Martin, he stood up and spoke out about these clowns running the club.........the guy speaks his mind, it will likely get him in trouble but it shows he cares.
We have had too many lies from people so it's refreshing to hear someone being honest.
He speaks too much for his own good including the comment that Swansea might have lost or drawn because they were stale "after the young men celebrated too much" after the Cardiff game.
The US people might ask where the Welsh money is including the Trust who have £1m on account.
The subs fiasco shows me his assistants are not up to it either. Did not KoL or Matt Gill help him out while he is under normal match stress. That is what they re there for,
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