| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston 07:47 - Dec 16 with 1192 views | Whiterockin |
But with a 25.8% turnout. Leaves the question are people sick of politics. |  | | |  |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 08:59 - Dec 16 with 1153 views | Boundy |
Its a dangerous position for any society to be in when voter apathy outweighs the interest in politics , but can anyone be surprised with the state /standards of politics which has to be at its lowest for many a decade . The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same |  |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:02 - Dec 16 with 1151 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 08:59 - Dec 16 by Boundy |
Its a dangerous position for any society to be in when voter apathy outweighs the interest in politics , but can anyone be surprised with the state /standards of politics which has to be at its lowest for many a decade . The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same |
Weather up here is really bad, minus 6 last night, thick ice everywhere. I’d imagine that was part of the reason |  | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 with 1146 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:02 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
Weather up here is really bad, minus 6 last night, thick ice everywhere. I’d imagine that was part of the reason |
If people really wanted to show the government what they thought of them they would have voted, cold or not.
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It hasn't affected picket lines. [Post edited 16 Dec 2022 9:14]
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 with 1145 views | 3swan |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 08:59 - Dec 16 by Boundy |
Its a dangerous position for any society to be in when voter apathy outweighs the interest in politics , but can anyone be surprised with the state /standards of politics which has to be at its lowest for many a decade . The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same |
I'm not sure if I'm suffering apathy, but your comment says it all to me.
"The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same" | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:14 - Dec 16 with 1132 views | Fireboy2 |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
I'm not sure if I'm suffering apathy, but your comment says it all to me.
"The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same" |
So what do we do? Stick with these lot who are eroding the working persons existence? |  | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:15 - Dec 16 with 1122 views | onehunglow |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
I'm not sure if I'm suffering apathy, but your comment says it all to me.
"The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same" |
Same here | |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:17 - Dec 16 with 1113 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 by Whiterockin |
If people really wanted to show the government what they thought of them they would have voted, cold or not.
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It hasn't affected picket lines. [Post edited 16 Dec 2022 9:14]
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You’re right, it hasn’t, I’d have gone out, but ours is 100 yards up the road. My elderly parents wouldn’t have gone out. I’m probably more politically active than others. Freezing cold night in December is bound to reduce numbers. | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:21 - Dec 16 with 1103 views | onehunglow |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:17 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
You’re right, it hasn’t, I’d have gone out, but ours is 100 yards up the road. My elderly parents wouldn’t have gone out. I’m probably more politically active than others. Freezing cold night in December is bound to reduce numbers. |
Morning ,my Learned Friend.
Everywhere up here,on the coast is lethally slippery.Ive been walking Fang in Hiking Boots and almost walking like an old man,very gingerly across the footballs. Ponds are frozen solid here but by Monday we'll be back to something like normality.
We ve got heating now anyway with albeit a temporary solution | |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:22 - Dec 16 with 1101 views | 3swan |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:14 - Dec 16 by Fireboy2 |
So what do we do? Stick with these lot who are eroding the working persons existence? |
No.
We vote them out, and hope things will be better.
Some things will be, but overall I can't see enough changes as they (most politicians), play their political bubble games. | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:31 - Dec 16 with 1091 views | onehunglow |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:22 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
No.
We vote them out, and hope things will be better.
Some things will be, but overall I can't see enough changes as they (most politicians), play their political bubble games. |
Working people /persons is a phrase Id like outlawed as it stigmatisie people where they stand-used to keep people in their place by those in power.Tragic that the "working people"now accept that definition of themselves.
Its like "class" | |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 10:23 - Dec 16 with 1053 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
I'm not sure if I'm suffering apathy, but your comment says it all to me.
"The country's desperate for change but the alternative is more of the same" |
Sums up how I feel about things pretty well. |  |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 12:21 - Dec 16 with 1017 views | Lohengrin |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:02 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
Weather up here is really bad, minus 6 last night, thick ice everywhere. I’d imagine that was part of the reason |
The weather would have been a factor, for those getting on in years especially, but the temperature is far from the whole story.
I’ve been tracking the downward trajectory of electoral turn-out on here for quite a few years and we’re now at the point where three quarters of eligible voters have turned their back on the process. This surely now has to raise the question of there being a crisis of legitimacy, doesn’t it? |  |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 12:26 - Dec 16 with 1010 views | controversial_jack |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:22 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
No.
We vote them out, and hope things will be better.
Some things will be, but overall I can't see enough changes as they (most politicians), play their political bubble games. |
Exactly, it's all we can do is vote for an alternate and see what happens. We know this current govt is a disaster, so why stick with them. | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 14:18 - Dec 16 with 958 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 12:21 - Dec 16 by Lohengrin |
The weather would have been a factor, for those getting on in years especially, but the temperature is far from the whole story.
I’ve been tracking the downward trajectory of electoral turn-out on here for quite a few years and we’re now at the point where three quarters of eligible voters have turned their back on the process. This surely now has to raise the question of there being a crisis of legitimacy, doesn’t it? |
Very good point, and the Gvnt and trying to push that rhetoric that 'they are all the same'. This Gvnt has poisoned the public's perception of politicians. Let us see what a Labour Gvnt will do. I hope and trust they will not be like Mogg and Johnson | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 15:00 - Dec 16 with 935 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 14:18 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
Very good point, and the Gvnt and trying to push that rhetoric that 'they are all the same'. This Gvnt has poisoned the public's perception of politicians. Let us see what a Labour Gvnt will do. I hope and trust they will not be like Mogg and Johnson |
My perception of all parties have been poisoned for a long time, this is from personal experience over many years. | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 15:04 - Dec 16 with 915 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 15:00 - Dec 16 by Whiterockin |
My perception of all parties have been poisoned for a long time, this is from personal experience over many years. |
And that’s the best experience.
I had no big issue with May or Cameron (other than brexit) or Brown, Blair or Major but the current cabal are so repugnant, I can’t wait for their destruction. Think the same applies to any government that’s been in for such a long time | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 20:46 - Dec 16 with 843 views | max936 |
100% this, nail on the head for me, nobody knows who to vote for, none of them standout, they're all equally pathetic. |  |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 00:28 - Dec 17 with 793 views | majorraglan |
Safe seat, awful weather, postal strike which may have reduced the number of postal votes returned - I’m not in the least bit surprised by the poor turn out. I didn’t even know there was an election until today! | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 08:12 - Dec 17 with 763 views | Whiterockin |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 00:28 - Dec 17 by majorraglan |
Safe seat, awful weather, postal strike which may have reduced the number of postal votes returned - I’m not in the least bit surprised by the poor turn out. I didn’t even know there was an election until today! |
The last sentence tends to go along with my thinking that the public have had enough of politics and politicians. | | | |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 14:01 - Dec 17 with 715 views | jojaca |
Democracy is an illusion. If you want change we need a revolution and sharpen your pitchforks. |  |
| Even when you know, you never know? |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 15:08 - Dec 17 with 703 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:12 - Dec 16 by Whiterockin |
If people really wanted to show the government what they thought of them they would have voted, cold or not.
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It hasn't affected picket lines. [Post edited 16 Dec 2022 9:14]
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Less than 1% of strikers are on picket lines. | |
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| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 15:11 - Dec 17 with 702 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Labour hold Stretford and Urmston on 09:31 - Dec 16 by onehunglow |
Working people /persons is a phrase Id like outlawed as it stigmatisie people where they stand-used to keep people in their place by those in power.Tragic that the "working people"now accept that definition of themselves.
Its like "class" |
78% of the UK adult population are working not sure what the want to call them.
Perhaps the 4% who refuse to work should be called social misfits. | |
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