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Russian thread 15:35 - Oct 2 with 19728 viewsSirjohnalot

Hi all

I’ve taken the decision to ban Controversial Jack and deleted the thread.

This was my decision, I tried to keep the debate up for as long as possible but it got increasingly bizarre and for the good of the site, I removed it.

My decision, any criticism is on me not Keith.
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Russian thread on 21:33 - Oct 8 with 1872 viewsScotia

Russian thread on 10:04 - Oct 8 by majorraglan

That will come as a shock to the Russians. If it’s a truck bomb traffic it will be a major concern to Putin because HGV’s using the bridge are subject to X-ray type checks before being allowed to cross. One section of the road has collapsed but the second is still standing, there are fuel tankers on fire on the train line so we don’t know if it’s been rendered completely unusable.

If the Ukrainians have rendered it completely unusable it will be hammer blow to the Russians in Kherson (especially those North of the Dnieper) as their supply lines will be severely affected. If the Ukrainians recapture the big dam on the Dnieper they’ll also be able to turn off the drinking water supply to Crimea.

I expect a ferocious response from Russia.


It's the response that worries me.

It's clear Putin has lost this war. He doesn't seem to have a way out of this situation, that's a big concern.
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Russian thread on 21:36 - Oct 8 with 1867 viewsSirjohnalot

Russian thread on 21:33 - Oct 8 by Scotia

It's the response that worries me.

It's clear Putin has lost this war. He doesn't seem to have a way out of this situation, that's a big concern.


And his reaction will be of concern to people around him. He’ll be taken out way before it gets to that stage.
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Russian thread on 21:38 - Oct 8 with 1859 viewsScotia

Russian thread on 21:36 - Oct 8 by Sirjohnalot

And his reaction will be of concern to people around him. He’ll be taken out way before it gets to that stage.


I bloody hope so.
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Russian thread on 22:50 - Oct 8 with 1812 viewsSirjohnalot

Russian thread on 21:38 - Oct 8 by Scotia

I bloody hope so.


Me too, just paid for the tickets for Burnley, be just my luck if we get obliterated before the game
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Russian thread on 00:53 - Oct 9 with 1775 viewsRobbie

Russian thread on 21:38 - Oct 8 by Scotia

I bloody hope so.


Is the option of his replacement , being a worse hardliner , hellbent and ready to see the USSR as it was back in the Cold War era and eradicate NATO .

The card being played by Russia is the nukes , place your bets now please .
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Russian thread on 03:09 - Oct 9 with 1754 viewsDJack


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Russian thread on 05:31 - Oct 9 with 1746 viewsfelixstowe_jack

I see the Belarus president has given Putin a 70th birthday present to help with the war efforts. A brand new tractor, the Russians won't be able to retreat so fast in it.

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Russian thread on 16:34 - Oct 9 with 1647 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The trouble is everytime Russia suffers a military defeat Putin orders missle attacks at night on civilian housing.

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Russian thread on 16:45 - Oct 9 with 1640 viewsKeithHaynes

Controversial Jack is no longer banned btw.

A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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Russian thread on 17:56 - Oct 9 with 1598 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 16:45 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Controversial Jack is no longer banned btw.


Hmmm, controversial

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 18:45 - Oct 9 with 1566 viewsdeanscfc

Russian thread on 16:45 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Controversial Jack is no longer banned btw.


Free to spread Kremlin propaganda again?
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Russian thread on 18:54 - Oct 9 with 1550 viewsFlashberryjack

Russian thread on 16:45 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Controversial Jack is no longer banned btw.


Strange

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Russian thread on 19:42 - Oct 9 with 1513 viewsScotia

Russian thread on 22:50 - Oct 8 by Sirjohnalot

Me too, just paid for the tickets for Burnley, be just my luck if we get obliterated before the game


I've entered the London marathon ballot for next April. I've entered the ballot many times but never got in through that route.

It would be just my luck if.......
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Russian thread on 20:01 - Oct 9 with 1487 viewsSirjohnalot

Russian thread on 19:42 - Oct 9 by Scotia

I've entered the London marathon ballot for next April. I've entered the ballot many times but never got in through that route.

It would be just my luck if.......


Especially if you’ve done your last long slow run.
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Russian thread on 20:20 - Oct 9 with 1459 viewsReslovenSwan1

Russian thread on 13:07 - Oct 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I can’t see it being a truck bomb. There seems to be a few near simultaneous explosions.



Just musing but the truck (presumably full of Russian army munitions) exploded as it hit the increase grade slope on the bridge crossing going from gentle grade to a steep slope.

a) It could therefore have been triggered by a "mercury tilt switch" the type that triggered the explosion that killed Airey Neave in 1979.

b) It could have been planted by an inside Russian objector recently called up or one of thousands of Russians furious with Putin. Perhaps an Ukrainian hit squad bribing guards etc.

The tilt of the vehicle could have mobilised volatile liquids to coming into contact with explosive substances by accident. Broken containers etc sloppy packaging.

How do Russians transfer high explosives? Is it done properly. Are substances that react in combination kept apart?

I believe it was a truck bomb intentional with a mercury tilt switch or an accident. I believe the slope and the angle of the truck was a factor and a trigger to the explosion.

Airey Neave's car exploded as it descended to an underground car park on a slope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Airey_Neave

[Post edited 9 Oct 2022 20:42]

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Russian thread on 20:59 - Oct 9 with 1410 viewsAnotherJohn

I think SirJohnalot made the right decision, even though it is difficult to know exactly where to draw the line. While searching on the web for the latest news from Ukraine I've been dismayed to see the pro-Russian trolls going into overdrive with increasingly implausible claims. Apart from those in the RF troll factories, many seem to come from the political extremes, both left and right, with a good sprinkling of COVID conspiracy theorists thrown in. Strange bed-fellows indeed! I wonder if the RF would tolerate such diversity of political perspectives.
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Russian thread on 23:39 - Oct 10 with 1268 viewsDJack

Russian thread on 20:20 - Oct 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Just musing but the truck (presumably full of Russian army munitions) exploded as it hit the increase grade slope on the bridge crossing going from gentle grade to a steep slope.

a) It could therefore have been triggered by a "mercury tilt switch" the type that triggered the explosion that killed Airey Neave in 1979.

b) It could have been planted by an inside Russian objector recently called up or one of thousands of Russians furious with Putin. Perhaps an Ukrainian hit squad bribing guards etc.

The tilt of the vehicle could have mobilised volatile liquids to coming into contact with explosive substances by accident. Broken containers etc sloppy packaging.

How do Russians transfer high explosives? Is it done properly. Are substances that react in combination kept apart?

I believe it was a truck bomb intentional with a mercury tilt switch or an accident. I believe the slope and the angle of the truck was a factor and a trigger to the explosion.

Airey Neave's car exploded as it descended to an underground car park on a slope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Airey_Neave

[Post edited 9 Oct 2022 20:42]


I dont think it's a truck bomb - Russia claimed it was but I doubt it.

As for a truck bomb with a mercury tilt switch on a truck that would have travelled through actual Russian territory rather than annexed region... a GPS initiator would be the one of choice as everything about the attack was deliberately timed to coincide with the regular rail tanker stop on the bridge.

Unlikely to be a truck bomb, especially as it took down sections rather than blew a hole. It is more efficient to attack from below.

Edit to correct myself. After seeing a satellite photo I now know that it was a view of the approach to the elevated section. Additionally three road sections are shown to be down in the satellite photo
[Post edited 11 Oct 2022 0:51]

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Russian thread on 01:25 - Oct 11 with 1251 viewsDJack

And for those enthusiasts of the truck bomb theory apparently a retired Finnish forces guy also says truck bomb.


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Russian thread on 00:16 - Oct 12 with 1106 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russian thread on 01:25 - Oct 11 by DJack

And for those enthusiasts of the truck bomb theory apparently a retired Finnish forces guy also says truck bomb.



So definitely not missiles then??

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Russian thread on 00:42 - Oct 12 with 1109 viewsDJack

Russian thread on 00:16 - Oct 12 by Brynmill_Jack

So definitely not missiles then??


Whose?

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Russian thread on 16:15 - Oct 19 with 984 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russian thread on 00:42 - Oct 12 by DJack

Whose?


Russia has imposed martial law in the areas they have annexed. It is an admission it cannot control these areas which is surprising as according to Russia 97% of the population wanted to be Russian. Gives the Russians a reason to shoot anybody they dislike not that they need one.

The Russians are also evacuating all Russian appointed quisling officials in Kherson. Another admission that Russia can't defend the city.

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Russian thread on 18:00 - Oct 19 with 921 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 16:15 - Oct 19 by felixstowe_jack

Russia has imposed martial law in the areas they have annexed. It is an admission it cannot control these areas which is surprising as according to Russia 97% of the population wanted to be Russian. Gives the Russians a reason to shoot anybody they dislike not that they need one.

The Russians are also evacuating all Russian appointed quisling officials in Kherson. Another admission that Russia can't defend the city.


Kherson will be the next to fall back into Ukrainian control , its seems Putin's scorched earth policy is confusing even for him as he's destroying the infrastructure of the land he believes belongs to Russia.

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Russian thread on 11:59 - Oct 20 with 863 viewsBoundy

This hasn't gone away , no mention of eradicating Nazism just the total destruction of a whole country's infrastructure


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Russian thread on 13:01 - Oct 20 with 854 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Russian plane shoots missile in vicinity of RAF aircraft over the Black Sea.

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Russian thread on 17:17 - Oct 20 with 836 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 13:01 - Oct 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Russian plane shoots missile in vicinity of RAF aircraft over the Black Sea.


I believe it happened in September , testing the waters I suspect

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