| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now 23:37 - Aug 16 with 3824 views | AndyCole |
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Many of us are fed up with enduring Martin's shite show of mediocrity, PR spin and no substance. We deserve far better.
No substance : results, performances and PR spin. PR spin from Martin and his cohorts in the media, looking to please. It's so cringe.
We need and deserve far more balanced reporting on the shite show that Martin is giving us right now.
And we need a manager who can optimise our limited resources to give us Winning, Effective & Efficient Football again.
Martin Out, along with his hangers on who always offer nothing other than blind, irrational faith. Even tonight, ffs. Enough
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:22 - Aug 17 with 3206 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I think everyone has now had enough, it’s inexcusable.
People are at various stages of acceptance.
I don’t get excited when we win anymore because very likely the very next week we will be back to the same old stuff.
When we win, it’s not corners turned, they are simply stays of execution and delaying the inevitable. |  |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:29 - Aug 17 with 3194 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I back Martin. He has chosen youth over experience and to play his game he need youth to buy into it and develop, Young players let him down last week. Benda and Congreve directly in soft goals.
I am seeing progress with mistakes. Bad teams make mistakes good team weed out the mistakes. I like Martin's honesty. There is no quick fix.
Cooper would get better results but so would Warnock or Mccarthy. It leaves no legacy. Martin has had 3 decent performance since Blackburn. He needs to bring in better loan players. Williams Burns and now Sorinola are adding very little. This is a huge downer. |  |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:31 - Aug 17 with 3186 views | AndyCole |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:22 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
I think everyone has now had enough, it’s inexcusable.
People are at various stages of acceptance.
I don’t get excited when we win anymore because very likely the very next week we will be back to the same old stuff.
When we win, it’s not corners turned, they are simply stays of execution and delaying the inevitable. |
Well, maybe not everyone Doc.
The meek, challenged of thinking are still spouting their nonsense in case they get shouted at by the bullies for not toeing the line.
It's a mass media and lack of intelligence driven thing, as per.
What we need is a proper objective Swans media outlet to show the way to the challenged-of-thinking on here. With independent facts, figures and truly objective comment...........always, not just when the sun is shining.
Best,
AC
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:39 - Aug 17 with 3170 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:31 - Aug 17 by AndyCole |
Well, maybe not everyone Doc.
The meek, challenged of thinking are still spouting their nonsense in case they get shouted at by the bullies for not toeing the line.
It's a mass media and lack of intelligence driven thing, as per.
What we need is a proper objective Swans media outlet to show the way to the challenged-of-thinking on here. With independent facts, figures and truly objective comment...........always, not just when the sun is shining.
Best,
AC
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This was Cooper's meek effort against a similarly limited Millwall team. Remember?.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50442690
Cooper got improvements but there was no legacy. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:11 - Aug 17 with 3143 views | Dr_Parnassus |
68% possession there too… and we finished 6th.
Lone blips and bad performances aren’t sn issue, but this is consistent. 1 win in our last 11 games. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:14 - Aug 17 with 3140 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:29 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I back Martin. He has chosen youth over experience and to play his game he need youth to buy into it and develop, Young players let him down last week. Benda and Congreve directly in soft goals.
I am seeing progress with mistakes. Bad teams make mistakes good team weed out the mistakes. I like Martin's honesty. There is no quick fix.
Cooper would get better results but so would Warnock or Mccarthy. It leaves no legacy. Martin has had 3 decent performance since Blackburn. He needs to bring in better loan players. Williams Burns and now Sorinola are adding very little. This is a huge downer. |
What sort of legacy are you talking about?
You do realise the way we play will be changed the second he leaves right? Nobody plays this way other than him.
Ask Forest fans what kind of a legacy he will be leaving them. Ask the England youth players what kind of legacy Cooper left them with.
- 6th play off semis
- 4th play off final
That legacy was very much building until the owners decided to not back him and some sections of fans had zero clue what they were talking about. [Post edited 17 Aug 2022 1:16]
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:43 - Aug 17 with 3121 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:14 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
What sort of legacy are you talking about?
You do realise the way we play will be changed the second he leaves right? Nobody plays this way other than him.
Ask Forest fans what kind of a legacy he will be leaving them. Ask the England youth players what kind of legacy Cooper left them with.
- 6th play off semis
- 4th play off final
That legacy was very much building until the owners decided to not back him and some sections of fans had zero clue what they were talking about. [Post edited 17 Aug 2022 1:16]
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What legacy did Cooper leave Swansea? I do not care about England. He had some sensational talent to work with. The cupboard was bare and he flew away once all his lovely boy loans left and Ayew upped sticks. Fulton Bennett put on huge wages and nobody wants them even on a free transfer with subsidised wages.
Martin is not leaving, He is staying and he will make interative slow grinding progress. He has asked for time and will get it. He has had three decent efforts let down by some inexperienced players and some bad luck.
"Mentality" remember? Did Patterson have the Charley Morgan mentality?. No and he got some harsh words. As if he has not put himself out enough for that guy,
Thus is Swansea city ups and downs and progress is being made and the results will come.
Cooper wanted to put the club in big debts like he is doing with Forest. He will dump them too. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 02:12 - Aug 17 with 3107 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:43 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What legacy did Cooper leave Swansea? I do not care about England. He had some sensational talent to work with. The cupboard was bare and he flew away once all his lovely boy loans left and Ayew upped sticks. Fulton Bennett put on huge wages and nobody wants them even on a free transfer with subsidised wages.
Martin is not leaving, He is staying and he will make interative slow grinding progress. He has asked for time and will get it. He has had three decent efforts let down by some inexperienced players and some bad luck.
"Mentality" remember? Did Patterson have the Charley Morgan mentality?. No and he got some harsh words. As if he has not put himself out enough for that guy,
Thus is Swansea city ups and downs and progress is being made and the results will come.
Cooper wanted to put the club in big debts like he is doing with Forest. He will dump them too. |
He wasn’t given the opportunity to make a legacy. He was given almost nothing to spend for long term planning.
He left because he wasn’t backed in January and the farce regarding the compensation demands for him in the summer. He left to a club that also didn’t have his loan players, also didn’t have his Ayew and were rock bottom of the league - a team you described as similar to the group Martin inherited.
So that revisionism doesn’t stack up does it?
If “mentality” was being taught then we wouldn’t be having 75% possession 800 passes many of of which within our “safe” zone. I say safe in inverted commas because it’s safe for the opposition, very dangerous for us.
Martin certainly is leaving. It’s not a question of if, but when. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 02:45 - Aug 17 with 3095 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:43 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What legacy did Cooper leave Swansea? I do not care about England. He had some sensational talent to work with. The cupboard was bare and he flew away once all his lovely boy loans left and Ayew upped sticks. Fulton Bennett put on huge wages and nobody wants them even on a free transfer with subsidised wages.
Martin is not leaving, He is staying and he will make interative slow grinding progress. He has asked for time and will get it. He has had three decent efforts let down by some inexperienced players and some bad luck.
"Mentality" remember? Did Patterson have the Charley Morgan mentality?. No and he got some harsh words. As if he has not put himself out enough for that guy,
Thus is Swansea city ups and downs and progress is being made and the results will come.
Cooper wanted to put the club in big debts like he is doing with Forest. He will dump them too. |
Why do you keep mentioning Charlie Morgan ? that's the second time tonight. |  | | |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 02:46 - Aug 17 with 3096 views | AndyCole |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 02:12 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
He wasn’t given the opportunity to make a legacy. He was given almost nothing to spend for long term planning.
He left because he wasn’t backed in January and the farce regarding the compensation demands for him in the summer. He left to a club that also didn’t have his loan players, also didn’t have his Ayew and were rock bottom of the league - a team you described as similar to the group Martin inherited.
So that revisionism doesn’t stack up does it?
If “mentality” was being taught then we wouldn’t be having 75% possession 800 passes many of of which within our “safe” zone. I say safe in inverted commas because it’s safe for the opposition, very dangerous for us.
Martin certainly is leaving. It’s not a question of if, but when. |
Yep. The When has to be imminent, esp if he continues to fail as per his dismal track record over the past few years of dismally poor.
Martin's brand is a proven failed brand. Like no other. Martin is clearly confused, conflicted, in so many ways. We see it in his fraught demeanour. As pathetic as Manning is pathetic with his childlike histrionics. Manning does as Martin is: full of squirming shite: embarrassing as heck to proper grown up fans.
Martin's team looks confused, conflicted.
And you're right: he's leaving for ALL these reasons, and more.
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 09:24 - Aug 17 with 2961 views | onehunglow |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:43 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What legacy did Cooper leave Swansea? I do not care about England. He had some sensational talent to work with. The cupboard was bare and he flew away once all his lovely boy loans left and Ayew upped sticks. Fulton Bennett put on huge wages and nobody wants them even on a free transfer with subsidised wages.
Martin is not leaving, He is staying and he will make interative slow grinding progress. He has asked for time and will get it. He has had three decent efforts let down by some inexperienced players and some bad luck.
"Mentality" remember? Did Patterson have the Charley Morgan mentality?. No and he got some harsh words. As if he has not put himself out enough for that guy,
Thus is Swansea city ups and downs and progress is being made and the results will come.
Cooper wanted to put the club in big debts like he is doing with Forest. He will dump them too. |
Ups? Which ones?
"result WILL come".Explain that. | |
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| Bottom Quartile Martin : Martin Out, Now on 22:36 - Aug 21 with 2780 views | AndyCole |
Bump and Edit :
- from - Mid-table Mediocrity Martin. to: Bottom Quartile Martin - down to 20th and counting.
I find it bizarre that the Martinistas have yet to respond to threads and posts like these - still no rationale for supporting the perennial losing brand Martin.
The blind faith is so telling - lack of insight, lack of awareness, lack of interest in exploring the Why and the How Martin can fix his mess, his quagmire of negligence.
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:32 - Aug 22 with 2723 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:22 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
I think everyone has now had enough, it’s inexcusable.
People are at various stages of acceptance.
I don’t get excited when we win anymore because very likely the very next week we will be back to the same old stuff.
When we win, it’s not corners turned, they are simply stays of execution and delaying the inevitable. |
How depressingly accurate | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:13 - Aug 22 with 2706 views | NotLoyal |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:32 - Aug 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
How depressingly accurate |
How exactingly revealing.
Good night 👠|  |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:28 - Aug 22 with 2676 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:13 - Aug 22 by NotLoyal |
How exactingly revealing.
Good night 👠|
You don’t think it’s accurate?
Explain. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 07:49 - Aug 22 with 2620 views | PawelAbbott |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 01:43 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What legacy did Cooper leave Swansea? I do not care about England. He had some sensational talent to work with. The cupboard was bare and he flew away once all his lovely boy loans left and Ayew upped sticks. Fulton Bennett put on huge wages and nobody wants them even on a free transfer with subsidised wages.
Martin is not leaving, He is staying and he will make interative slow grinding progress. He has asked for time and will get it. He has had three decent efforts let down by some inexperienced players and some bad luck.
"Mentality" remember? Did Patterson have the Charley Morgan mentality?. No and he got some harsh words. As if he has not put himself out enough for that guy,
Thus is Swansea city ups and downs and progress is being made and the results will come.
Cooper wanted to put the club in big debts like he is doing with Forest. He will dump them too. |
The Charlie Morgan mentality? What the hell is that?
Having some oversized ball boy rolling around on the football to refuse to give it back.
It was a hideously embarrassing episode in our past that I would never want to see repeated again. | | | |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 08:12 - Aug 22 with 2587 views | onehunglow |
This is about Martin
Vooper has gone and he was one I Dxxxxxt too.
This is his mess and mess it is
He is ruining young players whilst bringing dross to the club.
You seem happy about this .
God help you. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 10:04 - Aug 22 with 2515 views | vetchonian |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 02:45 - Aug 17 by Treforys_Jack |
Why do you keep mentioning Charlie Morgan ? that's the second time tonight. |
Because he is actually Jake Silverstein and his best buddy Martin Morgan told him the story how if it hadn’t been for his son we would not have won the league cup | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 21:52 - Aug 22 with 2276 views | STID2017 |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:31 - Aug 17 by AndyCole |
Well, maybe not everyone Doc.
The meek, challenged of thinking are still spouting their nonsense in case they get shouted at by the bullies for not toeing the line.
It's a mass media and lack of intelligence driven thing, as per.
What we need is a proper objective Swans media outlet to show the way to the challenged-of-thinking on here. With independent facts, figures and truly objective comment...........always, not just when the sun is shining.
Best,
AC
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Why do you feel the need to constantly attack those who dare to hold different views to yourself?
It only fails to totally diminish any bit of credence your posts may have.
Your views may be the same as others on here, but you need to look at the way they constructively post their views and take heed. |  |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 23:00 - Aug 22 with 2217 views | onehunglow |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 21:52 - Aug 22 by STID2017 |
Why do you feel the need to constantly attack those who dare to hold different views to yourself?
It only fails to totally diminish any bit of credence your posts may have.
Your views may be the same as others on here, but you need to look at the way they constructively post their views and take heed. |
Careful.
Martin has a significant fan base on here.
He should be hung out to dry and he s taking us into oblivion.
When he h goes, we can unite . | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 23:54 - Aug 22 with 2197 views | STID2017 |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 23:00 - Aug 22 by onehunglow |
Careful.
Martin has a significant fan base on here.
He should be hung out to dry and he s taking us into oblivion.
When he h goes, we can unite . |
Whether you are pro Martin or of the Martin out group matters not a jot.
As per Sir Jon's and Keith's recent call for all to behave like adults, most have been exchanging views without too much animosity.
However AC is punching way below this level.
I have no doubt he can post sensible coherent arguments for his point of view without the need for slagging off and name calling anyone that is deemed to hold the opposite view to him ? | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:37 - Aug 23 with 2182 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 23:54 - Aug 22 by STID2017 |
Whether you are pro Martin or of the Martin out group matters not a jot.
As per Sir Jon's and Keith's recent call for all to behave like adults, most have been exchanging views without too much animosity.
However AC is punching way below this level.
I have no doubt he can post sensible coherent arguments for his point of view without the need for slagging off and name calling anyone that is deemed to hold the opposite view to him ? |
Strange nobody seems bothered when people talk to me in that fashion.
I think it’s that selective stuff which gets peoples backs up. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 09:40 - Aug 23 with 2107 views | STID2017 |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 00:37 - Aug 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
Strange nobody seems bothered when people talk to me in that fashion.
I think it’s that selective stuff which gets peoples backs up. |
As per Keith and Jon's request, all that has gone before cannot continue.
I agree there has been a lot of name calling in all directions in the past but obviously Admin wanted it to stop.
So hopefully all, including those replying to you have heeded it?
If anyone posts anything that you deem as goes against the admin request then report it?
I know you and AC have an affinity but surely you can acknowledge that what he posted above was below the standards requested by admin ? | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 09:47 - Aug 23 with 2101 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 09:40 - Aug 23 by STID2017 |
As per Keith and Jon's request, all that has gone before cannot continue.
I agree there has been a lot of name calling in all directions in the past but obviously Admin wanted it to stop.
So hopefully all, including those replying to you have heeded it?
If anyone posts anything that you deem as goes against the admin request then report it?
I know you and AC have an affinity but surely you can acknowledge that what he posted above was below the standards requested by admin ? |
It’s hard to know what those standards are.
They change depending on who says it. | |
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| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 09:55 - Aug 23 with 2087 views | onehunglow |
| Mediocre Mid-table Martin : Martin Out, Now on 23:54 - Aug 22 by STID2017 |
Whether you are pro Martin or of the Martin out group matters not a jot.
As per Sir Jon's and Keith's recent call for all to behave like adults, most have been exchanging views without too much animosity.
However AC is punching way below this level.
I have no doubt he can post sensible coherent arguments for his point of view without the need for slagging off and name calling anyone that is deemed to hold the opposite view to him ? |
Have a look at what others post my way . | |
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