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Expectations on Russell Martin this season 18:50 - Jul 15 with 20633 viewsKeithHaynes

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:49 - Jul 24 with 550 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:26 - Jul 24 by magicdaps10

Why does he need to defend his viewpoint!?

Maybe if he wasn't attacked for having a viewpoint then it wouldn't lead to a continual page after page of you attacking someone's view point because it doesn't suit what you think.

This is something that needs to change from you and not others. It's not about standing up to others, the issue is with you needing to get superior ground and be the better the person by making tyourself be correct in your head..... A lot of the time it just makes you look worse, Wether you want to see that or not is another issue and so on.

No one should need to defend an opinion, you can disagree with them and say I you don't think its right but no need to ask a million and one questions.... It becomes nagging.

What I would suggest to you, answer other people's questions and people might answer your questions, don't ask as many questions especially when they have already answered it in a previous one.
Its all very passive aggressive from you and this is why so many get their back up with you......this type of approach is never just a question when it's passive aggressive, the one asking the question in this matter very rarely can see it as being passive aggressive and will a lot of the time sugar coat it up.

Try letting things ride by, try not replying so much and take some time now and again off here and spend time with your partner. You are constantly on here from first thing in the morning until late at night....... You'll have contributed more to this site than your own relationship.

You are young, start forging relationships and create 👍


Because he is combatting the opposite opinion. If you are going to do that on a forum, as per the rules of this site you should debate your opinion rather than attack.

He is more than welcome to keep his rationale to himself, but then he would also be expected to keep his personal attacks to himself too.

Where have I attacked him for having a viewpoint? Point it out to me, be specific. (You can’t).

Nothing needs to change about me squire. I’m perfectly happy with my conduct, which is to give my views and back them fully, while defending my ground against attacks from the likes of your gang who are intent on destroying debate due to the fear you have that you cannot rationalise your narrative.

Of course people should defend their opinion. If you are attacking someone for having the opposite then you should instead rationalise your own, that’s what this forum is for. It’s not your playground where you and your online mates go around abusing people you disagree with (or claim to disagree with).

Your advice is futile and your behaviour continuously abhorrent.
[Post edited 24 Jul 2022 10:03]

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:50 - Jul 24 with 537 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:28 - Jul 24 by STID2017

Clearly Dr P cannot or will not acknowledge the truth that my criticism of RM was at a certain time only.
If he or others choose to criticise RM or not does not define my viewpoint.
The only thing that sways my viewpoints of anyone involved with Swans is performances.
He is a revisionist as knows that from previous discussions yet refuses to acknowledge it.


I do acknowledge that, but don’t see the relevance.

You were correctly criticising him when you felt we were awful, yet criticise others for doing the same.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:51 - Jul 24 with 540 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:42 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

You do not debate, you attack.

Daps does not hold the view he does, he is desperately trying to cover his own nonsense regarding Cooper and Martin. He hates the fact I called it right and is doing his level best to keep his head above water, Builth is the same and hates the fact I’ve challenged him and am clearly showing I was right. You tag on to their coat-tails with the likes of Whiterockin bringing up the rear.

We could be bottom of the league come Xmas and none of you will still admit you got it spectacularly wrong and attacked people for very valid criticisms which were very accurate indeed.

If you debated your position instead of attacking others then that would lead me to believe there is more than blind loyalty behind your viewpoint. As of yet I haven’t seen you rationalise your position once.


A direct answer to you.
You do not debate or allow others to have their viewpoint.
You criticise, ridicule, bully and constantly ask questions without answering or maybe just acknowledging others viewpoints without rebuttle.
Others alternate between those different stances which allows for healthy debate.
Sadly this will never happen with you

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:53 - Jul 24 with 533 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:49 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Because he is combatting the opposite opinion. If you are going to do that on a forum, as per the rules of this site you should debate your opinion rather than attack.

He is more than welcome to keep his rationale to himself, but then he would also be expected to keep his personal attacks to himself too.

Where have I attacked him for having a viewpoint? Point it out to me, be specific. (You can’t).

Nothing needs to change about me squire. I’m perfectly happy with my conduct, which is to give my views and back them fully, while defending my ground against attacks from the likes of your gang who are intent on destroying debate due to the fear you have that you cannot rationalise your narrative.

Of course people should defend their opinion. If you are attacking someone for having the opposite then you should instead rationalise your own, that’s what this forum is for. It’s not your playground where you and your online mates go around abusing people you disagree with (or claim to disagree with).

Your advice is futile and your behaviour continuously abhorrent.
[Post edited 24 Jul 2022 10:03]


Another example of a lecture.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:56 - Jul 24 with 512 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:37 - Jul 24 by magicdaps10

What he is, he is the person to whom he calls out.

Everything he states about people's downfalls and what they need to change, you can clearly put his name next to.

He needs to wake up and wake up quick, the clock is ticking for him and it will be too late......but there again, he would have been at the top of his profession and that clearly is the be all and end all.
Unfortunately one of my mates put all his life into his work and has been successful but his life took a turn for the worse this week, its been a bad couple if years and reality has changed his mindset to work those last 2 years but the hammer has it firmer this week for him......3-6 months to cherish what is most important in life to him and that won't be work I can tell you.


Nonsense. I debate, I do not attack.

When I do respond in kind it’s because I have been attacked. You are projecting again simply because you cannot compete with me on an intellectual level.

I am at the top of my profession yes. I also have a perfect relationship of 16 years, living in paradise with more financial security than any family can ever need.

I am more than happy to put the likes of you in your place on the side. In fact it’s my pleasure.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:57 - Jul 24 with 507 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:53 - Jul 24 by Whiterockin

Another example of a lecture.


Which part exactly? Be specific.

I’ve not seen one example yet, let alone “another”.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:58 - Jul 24 with 511 viewsraynor94

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:53 - Jul 24 by Whiterockin

Another example of a lecture.


In over 20 years of posting on here, he has to be the most objectionable character I have come across.

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:58 - Jul 24 with 498 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:51 - Jul 24 by STID2017

A direct answer to you.
You do not debate or allow others to have their viewpoint.
You criticise, ridicule, bully and constantly ask questions without answering or maybe just acknowledging others viewpoints without rebuttle.
Others alternate between those different stances which allows for healthy debate.
Sadly this will never happen with you


Where have I not allowed you to have a viewpoint?

Show me.

No doubt you will make an excuse as to why you can’t.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:00 - Jul 24 with 499 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:58 - Jul 24 by raynor94

In over 20 years of posting on here, he has to be the most objectionable character I have come across.


I don't think the gentleman even knows what he is doing it's above his intelligence level.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:01 - Jul 24 with 492 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:58 - Jul 24 by raynor94

In over 20 years of posting on here, he has to be the most objectionable character I have come across.


Objectionable? In what way?

You mean someone that refuses to be shouted down by some internet bully boys?

If so, then yes I probably am.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:02 - Jul 24 with 484 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:00 - Jul 24 by Whiterockin

I don't think the gentleman even knows what he is doing it's above his intelligence level.


An example of a lecture.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:04 - Jul 24 with 479 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:02 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

An example of a lecture.


Hopefully one you will learn from.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:05 - Jul 24 with 459 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:04 - Jul 24 by Whiterockin

Hopefully one you will learn from.


I don’t think you have the ability to teach anyone anything, do you?

Other than how to act the part of the little sniffly kid at the back of the class that pipes up with “yeah that’s what he said” when the bullies arrive.

Unfortunately I’m immune.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:09 - Jul 24 with 458 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:58 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Where have I not allowed you to have a viewpoint?

Show me.

No doubt you will make an excuse as to why you can’t.


You just cannot see it can you ?
Allowing someone to have a viewpoint generally means just acknowledgement of a post with a " good post" or similar rather than constantly offering a counter argument.
Also constantly asking for examples like some lecturer is wholly unnecessary and sets you apart from every other poster ( and not in a good way )
You really should take on the salient points from Daps earlier post and my reply to him.
Life is too short.
It is easy to be smug now, but when life turns around and kicks you, which it has a habit of doing to most of us at some point, it is too late for " If only ..."
Not wishing that on you, as much as we disagree, but when it does happen, it changes your perspective

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:12 - Jul 24 with 439 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:09 - Jul 24 by STID2017

You just cannot see it can you ?
Allowing someone to have a viewpoint generally means just acknowledgement of a post with a " good post" or similar rather than constantly offering a counter argument.
Also constantly asking for examples like some lecturer is wholly unnecessary and sets you apart from every other poster ( and not in a good way )
You really should take on the salient points from Daps earlier post and my reply to him.
Life is too short.
It is easy to be smug now, but when life turns around and kicks you, which it has a habit of doing to most of us at some point, it is too late for " If only ..."
Not wishing that on you, as much as we disagree, but when it does happen, it changes your perspective


But I don’t think it’s a good post, if I did then I would agree with it.

So you are saying you are annoyed because I offer a counter view when I disagree instead of pretending I agree to make you happy?

And you are suggesting that I stop having my own views and just agree with you in case someone in my family dies?

I really have no idea what relevance this has.

If I don’t agree, then I won’t agree - and will explain why. Surely that is the perfect attitude to take up on a football forum.

Where as if you don’t agree you personally attack the person.

Which one do you reckon is best?

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:14 - Jul 24 with 441 viewsFireboy2

If no one replied to his trolling then he will find another forum to troll.

Make life easier for yourselves fellas and put him on ignore.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:19 - Jul 24 with 436 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:12 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

But I don’t think it’s a good post, if I did then I would agree with it.

So you are saying you are annoyed because I offer a counter view when I disagree instead of pretending I agree to make you happy?

And you are suggesting that I stop having my own views and just agree with you in case someone in my family dies?

I really have no idea what relevance this has.

If I don’t agree, then I won’t agree - and will explain why. Surely that is the perfect attitude to take up on a football forum.

Where as if you don’t agree you personally attack the person.

Which one do you reckon is best?


Point being, enjoy life instead if wasting it on here being so objectionable to everyone.
The glibness with which you mention someone dying in your family with reference to how you answer my post shows what a sad individual you are.
Too many, including the site owner, are dealing with trauma everyday, yet you treat it like a joke.
Shame on you.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:22 - Jul 24 with 424 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:14 - Jul 24 by Fireboy2

If no one replied to his trolling then he will find another forum to troll.

Make life easier for yourselves fellas and put him on ignore.


I’m unable to ignore nonsense I’m afraid, I will always reply to the trolls.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:24 - Jul 24 with 422 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:19 - Jul 24 by STID2017

Point being, enjoy life instead if wasting it on here being so objectionable to everyone.
The glibness with which you mention someone dying in your family with reference to how you answer my post shows what a sad individual you are.
Too many, including the site owner, are dealing with trauma everyday, yet you treat it like a joke.
Shame on you.


What a strange post.

So you are saying I should be more like you and attack people I disagree with instead of rationalising my viewpoint?

You go on to tell me I should do this incase someone in my family dies, then criticise me for asking you what it has to do with anything you just said.

You are severely letting yourself down. Not for the first time.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:31 - Jul 24 with 419 viewsswan65split

Every post!!!!!

Post is about Martin but ends Martin and P..........then gain its the same person huh?

enjoy your day at the screen.! scratch it off .
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:32 - Jul 24 with 419 viewsmagicdaps10

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:56 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Nonsense. I debate, I do not attack.

When I do respond in kind it’s because I have been attacked. You are projecting again simply because you cannot compete with me on an intellectual level.

I am at the top of my profession yes. I also have a perfect relationship of 16 years, living in paradise with more financial security than any family can ever need.

I am more than happy to put the likes of you in your place on the side. In fact it’s my pleasure.


WOW!!!

I think this one post alone just highlights your insecurities and issues.

You really have bigger issues than I thought.

You really are not a nice person at all.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:33 - Jul 24 with 410 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:31 - Jul 24 by swan65split

Every post!!!!!

Post is about Martin but ends Martin and P..........then gain its the same person huh?

enjoy your day at the screen.! scratch it off .


Absolutely. Tiresome isn’t it.

They pounce as soon as they see the username. What they are threatened by I’m not quite sure. I’m
Guessing it’s a deep insecurity about not being able to rationalise their view.

Can’t be anything else.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:35 - Jul 24 with 406 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:32 - Jul 24 by magicdaps10

WOW!!!

I think this one post alone just highlights your insecurities and issues.

You really have bigger issues than I thought.

You really are not a nice person at all.


So you disagree then?

No insecurities here lad, hence why I’m always open to discussing my views. Where as you dip in with your snide abuse and run off crying when you can’t keep up.

Maybe ‘Dai boy’ can give you some more nuggets of incorrect information to cheer you up champ?

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:36 - Jul 24 with 406 viewsAndyCole

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:33 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Absolutely. Tiresome isn’t it.

They pounce as soon as they see the username. What they are threatened by I’m not quite sure. I’m
Guessing it’s a deep insecurity about not being able to rationalise their view.

Can’t be anything else.


Doc, as they say:   You can't educate pork.

Your patience must be wearing thin with this morning's flock of sheeple.

You can't educate mutton, has to the new mantra for this lot.

Must be good sport shepherding the meek sheeple, but when the gang bullying sets in as it has this morning further intervention would be beneficial.

A proper feisty sheepdog is needed to whip them into shape.

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Pro free speech and alternative opinions - Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof - Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:38 - Jul 24 with 404 viewsmagicdaps10

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:45 - Jul 24 by STID2017

Sorry to hear that.
I know from bitter personal experience how quickly the status quo of life can change in a few short months.
We all need to press the reset button now and again.
Social media can become all consuming, as can work, and we all need to reassess our interaction with both now and again.
Life has a way of kicking you when you are least expecting it


Cheers for that STID, known him since I was 7 and it's been a real shock to the system to myself and all my mates.
We are just hoping that he will be ready to talk and see us all but ultimately its his decision and we all respect it....he has a long term partner with no kids(that's a blessing) and he has done terrific professionally but you would never hear him bragging about it or throwing it in people's face, he's a really decent and modest guy.

I can't start to think how scared, upset and worried he is.....it really hits you, he is a month older than me, 42, no age at all and the reality hits that it could be any of us.

Its been a tough few days but luckily there is a tight group of close friends who will be there for each other and mainly our mate.

Thanks again STID. 👍

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