| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP 12:51 - Jun 20 with 2838 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Under investigation for alleged breach of the MP’s code of conduct for late filing of financial info or something, incredibly boring stuff and nothing will come of it but what caught my eye was the suggestion in this article that Mr Lammy was paid over £3000 for a speech and question and answer session. Now forgive me if I’m being a little old fashioned but don’t we already pay MP’s more than enough to do this sort of thing? If I lived in Mr Lammy’s constituency and wanted to ask him questions would I stand a better chance if I chucked him a few grand?
If he’s devoting his time to these paid appearances does that mean his normal constituents who aren’t paying him don’t get a look in?
Personally I’d happily pay him £3000 to stay away.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/20/david-lammy-investigated-mp-sta |  | | |  |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 12:59 - Jun 20 with 2815 views | felixstowe_jack |
A bit like 6 members of the shadow cabinet currently being paid by the Railway Unions. No wonder they won't critise them or other Unions who fund the Labour Party. | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:27 - Jun 20 with 2783 views | Dr_Winston |
Any time one of the self righteous types like Lammy gets caught with a hand in the cookie jar it's a total joy. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:48 - Jun 20 with 2763 views | onehunglow |
Come on Jim.
Labour getting slagged off here | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:53 - Jun 20 with 2758 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Both of the major parties have MPs who can't fill in their monthly returns. |  |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 15:24 - Jun 20 with 2728 views | Boundy |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:53 - Jun 20 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Both of the major parties have MPs who can't fill in their monthly returns. |
Regardless of the colour of rosette no side can claim the moral high ground ,ever | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:44 - Jun 20 with 2693 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Putting aside the left/right/red/blue partisan bollocks for a minute (for balance Boris made £700,000 a year after being sacked as foreign secretary) doesn’t anybody else think it’s obscene that serving MPs can take such huge fees for what should essentially be the “day job”? The taxpayer is already paying him a significant salary for his time, yet he’s using that time and the prestige that being a parliamentarian brings to feather his nest further.
You shouldn’t have to pay an MP to make an appearance at an event or to say a few words, he/she/xi is already paid for. This is a huge ethical issue. | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:50 - Jun 20 with 2683 views | Gwyn737 |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:44 - Jun 20 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Putting aside the left/right/red/blue partisan bollocks for a minute (for balance Boris made £700,000 a year after being sacked as foreign secretary) doesn’t anybody else think it’s obscene that serving MPs can take such huge fees for what should essentially be the “day job”? The taxpayer is already paying him a significant salary for his time, yet he’s using that time and the prestige that being a parliamentarian brings to feather his nest further.
You shouldn’t have to pay an MP to make an appearance at an event or to say a few words, he/she/xi is already paid for. This is a huge ethical issue. |
We've been down this road before, but if we really want out brightest and best leading us we need to pay them accordingly.
The MP's salary needs to be enough to warrant not taking on other roles for payment. | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:51 - Jun 20 with 2682 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:50 - Jun 20 by Gwyn737 |
We've been down this road before, but if we really want out brightest and best leading us we need to pay them accordingly.
The MP's salary needs to be enough to warrant not taking on other roles for payment. |
If we want the brightest and best and still end up with David Lammy then there’s clearly something wrong. | | | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:57 - Jun 20 with 2674 views | CountyJim |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:48 - Jun 20 by onehunglow |
Come on Jim.
Labour getting slagged off here |
If found guilty me personally I'd sack him if I was leader
As for RMT paying MPs from what I've seen it more like hotel costs food etc for attending meetings events can't see problem with that |  | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:57 - Jun 20 with 2674 views | BryanSwan |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:50 - Jun 20 by Gwyn737 |
We've been down this road before, but if we really want out brightest and best leading us we need to pay them accordingly.
The MP's salary needs to be enough to warrant not taking on other roles for payment. |
Unfortunately i dont think paying them any more would make a blind bit of difference.
Half of them in there couldnt care less about the salary eg. Sunak. It is about the power. | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 18:41 - Jun 20 with 2630 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:57 - Jun 20 by CountyJim |
If found guilty me personally I'd sack him if I was leader
As for RMT paying MPs from what I've seen it more like hotel costs food etc for attending meetings events can't see problem with that |
Paying Labour MPs hotel bills while they attend Labour Conferences and you can't see anything wrong with it.
5 labour MPs received £20,000 that is £4,000 each in 2020. Sounds a lot more than just expensives | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 18:42 - Jun 20 with 2630 views | Gwyn737 |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:57 - Jun 20 by BryanSwan |
Unfortunately i dont think paying them any more would make a blind bit of difference.
Half of them in there couldnt care less about the salary eg. Sunak. It is about the power. |
You may well be right. | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 18:50 - Jun 20 with 2624 views | Lorax |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 13:53 - Jun 20 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Both of the major parties have MPs who can't fill in their monthly returns. |
Yet they have no trouble with their expenses claims! | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 19:20 - Jun 20 with 2593 views | GixerJack |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 18:41 - Jun 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Paying Labour MPs hotel bills while they attend Labour Conferences and you can't see anything wrong with it.
5 labour MPs received £20,000 that is £4,000 each in 2020. Sounds a lot more than just expensives |
£77 a week doesn’t sound like a lot. Depending on how many hours they work it might even be below minimum wage |  | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 19:46 - Jun 20 with 2572 views | Lorax |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 19:20 - Jun 20 by GixerJack |
£77 a week doesn’t sound like a lot. Depending on how many hours they work it might even be below minimum wage |
Did the labour party conference last 12 months then? | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 19:55 - Jun 20 with 2565 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 19:46 - Jun 20 by Lorax |
Did the labour party conference last 12 months then? |
No it just felt like it. | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:00 - Jun 20 with 2564 views | BryanSwan |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 18:42 - Jun 20 by Gwyn737 |
You may well be right. |
Unfortunately the political system isn't catered for people who genuinely want to improve peoples lives.
And that goes for both benches. | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:35 - Jun 20 with 2534 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Dave says it's an admin error, the only admin error I can see is paying him £3,000 for a speech. | |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:49 - Jun 20 with 2515 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:35 - Jun 20 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Dave says it's an admin error, the only admin error I can see is paying him £3,000 for a speech. |
Well there’s the issue isn’t it. Imagine his office receiving 2 letters. Both inviting him to speak at an event on the same evening. One is the opening of a small local community funded youth club aimed at bringing kids off the street to give them something to do, unfortunately funds are tight, they can’t offer him any money but they’d appreciate the support from the local MP with this good initiative. The other is a Citibank event where he will be paid several thousands of pounds for a ten minute speech.
He can’t attend both, they’re on the same evening at the same time.
Which one is he more likely to attend? | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:56 - Jun 20 with 2512 views | Lorax |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:49 - Jun 20 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Well there’s the issue isn’t it. Imagine his office receiving 2 letters. Both inviting him to speak at an event on the same evening. One is the opening of a small local community funded youth club aimed at bringing kids off the street to give them something to do, unfortunately funds are tight, they can’t offer him any money but they’d appreciate the support from the local MP with this good initiative. The other is a Citibank event where he will be paid several thousands of pounds for a ten minute speech.
He can’t attend both, they’re on the same evening at the same time.
Which one is he more likely to attend? |
It's not more likely, it's definite!
This nonsense about paying them enough so they won't look for outside work...how much does anyone think that is?
We could pay them like Premier league footballers and they'd still take any extras they were offered. Greed knows no bounds, where politicians (and many rich people) are concerned, too much is never enough. | | | |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 21:07 - Jun 20 with 2492 views | Flashberryjack |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 20:56 - Jun 20 by Lorax |
It's not more likely, it's definite!
This nonsense about paying them enough so they won't look for outside work...how much does anyone think that is?
We could pay them like Premier league footballers and they'd still take any extras they were offered. Greed knows no bounds, where politicians (and many rich people) are concerned, too much is never enough. |
The more money you've got the more you want, fact.
You could pay MP's a £million a week and they'd still be scrabbling around for a few extra quid.
The tightest people I've met are absolutely minted. |  |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 10:10 - Jun 21 with 2397 views | waynekerr55 |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 16:44 - Jun 20 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Putting aside the left/right/red/blue partisan bollocks for a minute (for balance Boris made £700,000 a year after being sacked as foreign secretary) doesn’t anybody else think it’s obscene that serving MPs can take such huge fees for what should essentially be the “day job”? The taxpayer is already paying him a significant salary for his time, yet he’s using that time and the prestige that being a parliamentarian brings to feather his nest further.
You shouldn’t have to pay an MP to make an appearance at an event or to say a few words, he/she/xi is already paid for. This is a huge ethical issue. |
If I could upvote this post 200k times I would. |  |
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| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 12:34 - Jun 21 with 2362 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Paragon of virtue rt. hon David Lammy MP on 10:10 - Jun 21 by waynekerr55 |
If I could upvote this post 200k times I would. |
Well create 199,999 more accounts then. You’re not trying hard enough. [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 12:35]
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