| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED 02:41 - Apr 12 with 20361 views | NotLoyal |
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ANDY WOOLMER 👀
Robert Hyde and Natalie Aspinall
Fourth Official : Charles Breakspear
First Swans game Woolmer officiates this season, he is the referee Steve Cooper made allegations against of having issues with him and Swansea City. He was the fourth official which brought about a whole lot of touchline reporting when Ryan Manning was sent off against Fulham. Thereafter he was involved in reporting Swansea City for a variety of infringements on and off the pitch. Despite Fulham committing similar and in some cases far worse touchline issues which were overlooked. Let’s hope Woolmer comes to Swansea with clarity and an independent view.
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Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Ben Cabango, Kyle Naughton, Joel Latibeaudiere; Cyrus Christie, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Hannes Wolf; Joel Piroe, Jamie Paterson; Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Ryan Manning, Korey Smith, Olivier Ntcham, Kyle Joseph, Nathanael Ogbeta, Cameron Congreve.
Barnsley: Jack Walton, Liam Kitching, Mads Andersen (captain), Callum Brittain, Carlton Morris, Claudio Gomes, Romal Palmer, Remy Vita, Amine Bassi, Domingos Quina, Matty Wolfe.
Substitutes: Daniel Jinadu, Callum Styles, Cauley Woodrow, Aaron Leya Iseka, Jasper Moon, William Hondermarck, Victor Adeboyejo.
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:47 - Apr 15 with 1353 views | union_jack |
Something that annoyed me was the comms on the stream saying a lot of football had been played and they were tired. They’d had nearly a full week off, they’re young, professional athletes, they shouldn’t be tired.
I saw Luton today (cough, spit, retch) and the energy they showed put us to shame. So for me it comes down to attitude and ours was if the couldn’t care less variety. [Post edited 15 Apr 2022 17:48]
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:48 - Apr 15 with 1351 views | 1462jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:24 - Apr 15 by bennytheblue |
Thought you’d get the three points today….. |
So did I never mind still 9 points above bristols rivals |  | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:50 - Apr 15 with 1325 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:42 - Apr 15 by jojaca |
We underestimated Barnsley and couldn't get mentally switched until we conceded the first goal. Probably thought we only had to turn up day.
The lack of tempo done my head in, so slow walking football. We need an injection of pace all around the first 11 next season especially in Grimes position. Grimes turns slower than a double decker bus. [Post edited 15 Apr 2022 17:43]
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Grimes is now showing signs of weariness, and understandably so. Being taken out so violently in the 1st half was the final straw for him, in so many ways. He's carried the onerous weight of Martinball on his broad shoulders for too long.
He needs a rest. We can then maybe see how poor Martinball is without his heroic talisman. Like we did when Downs started ahead of him against S'oton and had an absolute mare. The match turned on it's head when Grimes came off the bench.
Lack of mental alertness from the off - that's squarely down to mis-management by a manager more intent on parading the losing Martinball brand.
Martin needs to grow up, fast. With some tougher oppo ahead, the jury is still massively out - as it was in the most recent poll. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:59 - Apr 15 with 1281 views | magicdaps10 |
Boring 1st half but a bit of entertainment there 2nd half.
Got to give credit to Barnsley, they were well organised and there was a couple of good players there for them, notably the 2 lads on loan in Quinoa and Bassi.
We really mixed it up both half's but the movement off the ball was terrible, only after their goal did the urgency kick in, everyone around me was crying out for the movement to get on the front foot.
Not sure but I did question at the time a Barnsley player jumped on the ball, looked like a possible handball?
Ref let them get away with a lot of niggly challenges.
A lot of players off their game today, Obefami and Christie most notably, Fulton was dreadful and even Naughton looked a little out of sorts. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:04 - Apr 15 with 1247 views | Flashberryjack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:47 - Apr 15 by union_jack |
Something that annoyed me was the comms on the stream saying a lot of football had been played and they were tired. They’d had nearly a full week off, they’re young, professional athletes, they shouldn’t be tired.
I saw Luton today (cough, spit, retch) and the energy they showed put us to shame. So for me it comes down to attitude and ours was if the couldn’t care less variety. [Post edited 15 Apr 2022 17:48]
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I've noticed over a good few games now, that Christie fades badly second half, late on today he looked as if he had lead in his boots. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:08 - Apr 15 with 1217 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:04 - Apr 15 by Flashberryjack |
I've noticed over a good few games now, that Christie fades badly second half, late on today he looked as if he had lead in his boots. |
Dare I say it, I think Christie hasn't been the player lately that he was when came in...looks like he is carrying a bit of timber.
Would I prefer him or Ethan Laird at this stage, I would like to see Laird in this team of late. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:15 - Apr 15 with 1171 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:04 - Apr 15 by Flashberryjack |
I've noticed over a good few games now, that Christie fades badly second half, late on today he looked as if he had lead in his boots. |
Good spot. Cyrus has bust a gut so far with a view to securing an ongoing deal.
He isn't a natural thrusting WB, esp at this stage in his career.
He's angling for the RCB slot by all accounts, and is in pole position to nail it (should Martin still be here). | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:19 - Apr 15 with 1169 views | jasper_T |
We were a bit rubbish but their gameplan worked perfectly up until they sacrificed a midfielder for a striker after Ntcham's goal. Then things opened up and we created things. Any decent side finishes us off before that with the chances they had.
Fisher should have done better on their goal and we could have won it at the death. Nice for Congreve to get a few runs with the ball in his 5 minutes, not too long ago Cullen was getting that treatment and the ball would spend the rest of the game sailing high over his head. | | | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:20 - Apr 15 with 1166 views | Chief |
I don't know if it was a style issue today. Just too many players had a bad day. Paterson really poor, Fulton poor, Obafemi poor, Piroe out of sorts. When we did go long or direct, Obafemi or Paterson fluffed great chances.
Playing the passing, patient game, Wolf had plenty of joy getting crosses in but they didn't find a man.
Just one of those days. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:21 - Apr 15 with 1164 views | krunchykarrot |
What can i say for me the worst performance of the season with only Ben able to say he did ok. Pato again was an embarresment walking into Wolfys channel again then passing back slowing us down when we were playing walking football. Christy blew up on 55mins, Wolf got worse as the game went on and he was the only one with legs. Piroe dropped deeper to no avail, Obafemi couldnt control it, a bad day at the office for the Swans. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:22 - Apr 15 with 1152 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:20 - Apr 15 by Chief |
I don't know if it was a style issue today. Just too many players had a bad day. Paterson really poor, Fulton poor, Obafemi poor, Piroe out of sorts. When we did go long or direct, Obafemi or Paterson fluffed great chances.
Playing the passing, patient game, Wolf had plenty of joy getting crosses in but they didn't find a man.
Just one of those days. |
4% long balls first half, it’s synonymous with our slow and unadventurous play.
It’s amazing how so many have an off day when we play this style, from errors to sub par performances. It’s always the same. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:24 - Apr 15 with 1145 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:21 - Apr 15 by krunchykarrot |
What can i say for me the worst performance of the season with only Ben able to say he did ok. Pato again was an embarresment walking into Wolfys channel again then passing back slowing us down when we were playing walking football. Christy blew up on 55mins, Wolf got worse as the game went on and he was the only one with legs. Piroe dropped deeper to no avail, Obafemi couldnt control it, a bad day at the office for the Swans. |
Come on now we've been smashed too many times to call that the worst of the season.
Paterson doesn't seem to like passing to Wolf. Maybe sulking that we wouldn't give him a payrise but were happy to spend so much more on his potential replacement on loan. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:33 - Apr 15 with 1114 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:24 - Apr 15 by jasper_T |
Come on now we've been smashed too many times to call that the worst of the season.
Paterson doesn't seem to like passing to Wolf. Maybe sulking that we wouldn't give him a payrise but were happy to spend so much more on his potential replacement on loan. |
By all accounts Paterson is a bit of a lone Wolf (pun apt and intended).
He ploughs his own furrows, on and off the pitch.
The fact that he's been such a massive lynchpin is testament to his outright professionalism and deep down team ethic, despite appearances to the contrary, to the passive observer. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:37 - Apr 15 with 1113 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:21 - Apr 15 by krunchykarrot |
What can i say for me the worst performance of the season with only Ben able to say he did ok. Pato again was an embarresment walking into Wolfys channel again then passing back slowing us down when we were playing walking football. Christy blew up on 55mins, Wolf got worse as the game went on and he was the only one with legs. Piroe dropped deeper to no avail, Obafemi couldnt control it, a bad day at the office for the Swans. |
Cabango done very well today, totally grown into the style terrifically, he played 2 lovely cross field ala Ash style passes in the first half.
I really enjoyed the 2nd half, a real back and forth, both teams pushing for a winner with no avail.
Obafemi should Bury his chance as should Piroe at the death but Barnsley had a few decent chances also.
Don't know what has gone on at Barnsley but they were a decent team out there today. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:39 - Apr 15 with 1107 views | krunchykarrot |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:24 - Apr 15 by jasper_T |
Come on now we've been smashed too many times to call that the worst of the season.
Paterson doesn't seem to like passing to Wolf. Maybe sulking that we wouldn't give him a payrise but were happy to spend so much more on his potential replacement on loan. |
The reason i say that Jasper is our recent performances couldnt be backed up with anything getting close to the previous matches. I believe we should bench the loanees now as its an ideal oppurtunity to play squad players and youngsters gaining valuable experience. I would love to see Congreve Ogbata and Rushesha get some serious game time from now until the end of the season, playing without the pressure that mid table brings.
As for Wolfe right in front of me today he takes and turns fantastically then gets turned over with minimum contact, im sure there is a good player in there somewhere but id rather we looked at what we own rather than develop. Same goes for Pato shape or ship. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:45 - Apr 15 with 1079 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:39 - Apr 15 by krunchykarrot |
The reason i say that Jasper is our recent performances couldnt be backed up with anything getting close to the previous matches. I believe we should bench the loanees now as its an ideal oppurtunity to play squad players and youngsters gaining valuable experience. I would love to see Congreve Ogbata and Rushesha get some serious game time from now until the end of the season, playing without the pressure that mid table brings.
As for Wolfe right in front of me today he takes and turns fantastically then gets turned over with minimum contact, im sure there is a good player in there somewhere but id rather we looked at what we own rather than develop. Same goes for Pato shape or ship. |
From here is now the chance to bring in a few for a bot of experience for sure. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:45 - Apr 15 with 1079 views | Treforys_Jack |
Thought Grimes did ok, he had to cover Fulton for long periods, Cabango was good, Manning was excellent when he came on. Really annoying that we didn't start playing until 70mins, that is unforgivable. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:47 - Apr 15 with 1065 views | Chief |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:22 - Apr 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
4% long balls first half, it’s synonymous with our slow and unadventurous play.
It’s amazing how so many have an off day when we play this style, from errors to sub par performances. It’s always the same. |
It wasn't like that though, the errors were a lot of the time unforced misplaced passes in attacking positions or in midfield and heavy touches and poor control. Not the passing around at the back needless overindulgence issue just waiting for an enthusiastic striker to nip in.
And as I say the same errors occurred when we did go long. Even though we didn't do it as much, same result. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:51 - Apr 15 with 1051 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:45 - Apr 15 by Treforys_Jack |
Thought Grimes did ok, he had to cover Fulton for long periods, Cabango was good, Manning was excellent when he came on. Really annoying that we didn't start playing until 70mins, that is unforgivable. |
Barnsley played their part in that. They left space in behind that we didn't often use, instead suffocating the central area where we wanted to play. Game opened up completely when they took off midfielder Wolfe for striker Woodrow.
Found it strange that they "went for it" with their formation but then kept timewasting and kicking the ball away as if holding on for a draw. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:58 - Apr 15 with 1030 views | krunchykarrot |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:45 - Apr 15 by magicdaps10 |
From here is now the chance to bring in a few for a bot of experience for sure. |
Burns can get game time as well if im correct in saying he is here next year on loan. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:58 - Apr 15 with 1028 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:51 - Apr 15 by jasper_T |
Barnsley played their part in that. They left space in behind that we didn't often use, instead suffocating the central area where we wanted to play. Game opened up completely when they took off midfielder Wolfe for striker Woodrow.
Found it strange that they "went for it" with their formation but then kept timewasting and kicking the ball away as if holding on for a draw. |
What is Congrieve's natural position Jasper, he knocked a lovely ball in when he came on. Obi, doesn't seem to anticipate or run across the keeper. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 19:08 - Apr 15 with 1008 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:58 - Apr 15 by Treforys_Jack |
What is Congrieve's natural position Jasper, he knocked a lovely ball in when he came on. Obi, doesn't seem to anticipate or run across the keeper. |
He's a number 10. Loves to run at defenders and shoot from distance. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 19:14 - Apr 15 with 973 views | Lorax |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 18:58 - Apr 15 by Treforys_Jack |
What is Congrieve's natural position Jasper, he knocked a lovely ball in when he came on. Obi, doesn't seem to anticipate or run across the keeper. |
That annoyed me today, Wolff was playing balls towards the near post and nobody made diagonal runs to get there.
First half was quite poor, we improved a lot but, with several poor reffing choices and poor pass choices the movements broke down.
There was a big improvement in attitude and energy second half though. We need to be starting games like that and finishing teams off, not letting them take the lead!
I'm not asking for much eh. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 19:22 - Apr 15 with 942 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 19:08 - Apr 15 by jasper_T |
He's a number 10. Loves to run at defenders and shoot from distance. |
What's his goalscoring record like at the age groups?
He's a solid unit, I noticed the lovely ball he tried to float to Obefami. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 20:07 - Apr 15 with 852 views | Badlands |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread 21/22 UPDATED on 17:59 - Apr 15 by magicdaps10 |
Boring 1st half but a bit of entertainment there 2nd half.
Got to give credit to Barnsley, they were well organised and there was a couple of good players there for them, notably the 2 lads on loan in Quinoa and Bassi.
We really mixed it up both half's but the movement off the ball was terrible, only after their goal did the urgency kick in, everyone around me was crying out for the movement to get on the front foot.
Not sure but I did question at the time a Barnsley player jumped on the ball, looked like a possible handball?
Ref let them get away with a lot of niggly challenges.
A lot of players off their game today, Obefami and Christie most notably, Fulton was dreadful and even Naughton looked a little out of sorts. |
They 28 was useful , wouldn’t mind making a bid for him.
And the 26 looked like he would fit in our defence.
Shocking refereeing.
We looked like the season was over.
Why was Wolf left on? He, (godawful) Grimes, Paterson, Latibeaudiere made mistake after mistake. Obafemi and Piroe had hardly any service and when they did they did little with it.
Too omparient and played into Barnsley’s hand with so many long balls … should have kept things short and boring for longer to tire them our.
Great strike my Ntcham and Manning was dynamic. Congrieve should start in place of Wolf IMO. |  |
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