| Where do the trust go from here ? 14:44 - Feb 16 with 5278 views | KeithHaynes |
Are they of any future use ?
Or should they continue ? |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:47 - Feb 17 with 1142 views | KeithHaynes |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:40 - Feb 17 by Boundy |
I appreciate he hasn't the final say but as Chairman then perhaps he should have reminded/guided board members of their duties. The vote to take legal action was 5 years ago , that decision hadn't changed either before or during his tenure |
Then maybe the various chairmen of the trust over five years should speak up, because I know differently. But that’s not for me to say.
That’s for them.
As I said, not that I care. Self interest is always going to win. | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:48 - Feb 17 with 1135 views | KeithHaynes |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:40 - Feb 17 by Boundy |
I appreciate he hasn't the final say but as Chairman then perhaps he should have reminded/guided board members of their duties. The vote to take legal action was 5 years ago , that decision hadn't changed either before or during his tenure |
And the final decision wasn’t about years ago, it was about now. | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 21:07 - Feb 17 with 1086 views | Wingstandwood |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:27 - Feb 17 by KeithHaynes |
Because he isn’t the overall decider, and if I’m correct he wasn’t responsible for five years of decisions before him. You can cut the head off the snake but the snake still wriggles. There’s no way dave dalton can be blamed for this weeks decision as much as Phil four years ago. Pathetic to think otherwise. |
The past leadership will have a go at the new leadership but if the past leadership had acted swiftly we would not even be in the situation we are now, anyhow! So they have no right to be sanctimonious.
I thank them for their unpaid service but recognise there were perks that should have been refused not just for the sell-off betrayal but for the obvious disrespect shown towards SCST/SCST members post take over.
Take as just one example John Van Zweden's regular taunting with his Morgan's Hotel/travel club money making scheme. FFS the likes of Jenkins, Dineen and Morgan did not even try to put a stop to that! And SCST board members sat in the same box as them when it was going on! Didn't they hear "greedy bastards get out of our club"?
Treated with absolute disrespect but to then blatantly ignore even more disgraceful disrespect because that matchday directors box was just to good to miss! FFS where was the self respect? Seriously don't they realise how bad that looked? |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 21:51 - Feb 17 with 999 views | waynekerr55 |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 21:07 - Feb 17 by Wingstandwood |
The past leadership will have a go at the new leadership but if the past leadership had acted swiftly we would not even be in the situation we are now, anyhow! So they have no right to be sanctimonious.
I thank them for their unpaid service but recognise there were perks that should have been refused not just for the sell-off betrayal but for the obvious disrespect shown towards SCST/SCST members post take over.
Take as just one example John Van Zweden's regular taunting with his Morgan's Hotel/travel club money making scheme. FFS the likes of Jenkins, Dineen and Morgan did not even try to put a stop to that! And SCST board members sat in the same box as them when it was going on! Didn't they hear "greedy bastards get out of our club"?
Treated with absolute disrespect but to then blatantly ignore even more disgraceful disrespect because that matchday directors box was just to good to miss! FFS where was the self respect? Seriously don't they realise how bad that looked? |
Just my take and one you can disagree with. The negotiations previously were not great but on the basis of things a reasonable outcome.
By the owners reneging on the deal that almost certainly strengthened the argument and legal was the only option. This feels so bad and I hope we haven't signed away any right to recourse for any future prejudice. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:09 - Feb 17 with 955 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 21:07 - Feb 17 by Wingstandwood |
The past leadership will have a go at the new leadership but if the past leadership had acted swiftly we would not even be in the situation we are now, anyhow! So they have no right to be sanctimonious.
I thank them for their unpaid service but recognise there were perks that should have been refused not just for the sell-off betrayal but for the obvious disrespect shown towards SCST/SCST members post take over.
Take as just one example John Van Zweden's regular taunting with his Morgan's Hotel/travel club money making scheme. FFS the likes of Jenkins, Dineen and Morgan did not even try to put a stop to that! And SCST board members sat in the same box as them when it was going on! Didn't they hear "greedy bastards get out of our club"?
Treated with absolute disrespect but to then blatantly ignore even more disgraceful disrespect because that matchday directors box was just to good to miss! FFS where was the self respect? Seriously don't they realise how bad that looked? |
What was wrong with the Dutchman's scheme? If he and the other directors arranged hospitality packages what is wrong with that? Good for them, the club. KLM and Cardiff Airport and the train company and south Wales taxi firms and car hire. Its business as long as it was done in standard business practice.
OK they were making money out of the club's success but so does Swansea Independant and less respected forums. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:21 - Feb 17 with 938 views | Wingstandwood |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:09 - Feb 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What was wrong with the Dutchman's scheme? If he and the other directors arranged hospitality packages what is wrong with that? Good for them, the club. KLM and Cardiff Airport and the train company and south Wales taxi firms and car hire. Its business as long as it was done in standard business practice.
OK they were making money out of the club's success but so does Swansea Independant and less respected forums. |
Better if tickets and the unique matchday experience was based upon charity than the greed it obviously was! Children's wards etc.... I think the individuals 'raking-it-in' had made more than enough! | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:30 - Feb 17 with 931 views | Chief |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:09 - Feb 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What was wrong with the Dutchman's scheme? If he and the other directors arranged hospitality packages what is wrong with that? Good for them, the club. KLM and Cardiff Airport and the train company and south Wales taxi firms and car hire. Its business as long as it was done in standard business practice.
OK they were making money out of the club's success but so does Swansea Independant and less respected forums. |
I believe he was doing it when we were in the prem (not just hospitality) so high demand for tickets and circumventing the jack army and points system, essentially jumping the queue to make money. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:39 - Feb 17 with 917 views | Boundy |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:30 - Feb 17 by Chief |
I believe he was doing it when we were in the prem (not just hospitality) so high demand for tickets and circumventing the jack army and points system, essentially jumping the queue to make money. |
He was and your right , he was making a killing off his little scheme ,along with Wonky Sheep . |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:46 - Feb 17 with 887 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 20:27 - Feb 17 by KeithHaynes |
Because he isn’t the overall decider, and if I’m correct he wasn’t responsible for five years of decisions before him. You can cut the head off the snake but the snake still wriggles. There’s no way dave dalton can be blamed for this weeks decision as much as Phil four years ago. Pathetic to think otherwise. |
We're criticising the decision to sign a deal which directly went against the mandate provided to them by members.
This action isn't attributable to those in senior positions four years ago.
I don't understand your position at all. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:57 - Feb 17 with 871 views | Chief |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:39 - Feb 17 by Boundy |
He was and your right , he was making a killing off his little scheme ,along with Wonky Sheep . |
And even since selling he's shares and having no involvement, he's been on twitter etc bragging about getting tickets for high demand games before they've gone on general sale and only available to members with high points which he won't have because he doesn't go to many games anymore. So it's still going on to an extent. | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 05:44 - Feb 18 with 785 views | vetchonian |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 15:11 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
Bank the money, disband the organisation and as you say remain silent. Personally and I know David Dalton, he isn’to blame. I think it has run its course, there’s no need for them. They have no voice, and represent not a lot as a result. As I said banking the money under some form of release agreement and disbanding them is the safer option all round. Just my opinion though.
Martin Morgan and Jake Silverstein seem to have played a blinder.
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So who is to blame
Dalton is the chairman who agreed to a deal and signed it with knowing the terms and conditions.
This person apparently has run his own business for 20 years and also offer business advice would he sign an agreement in his “day” job without being aware of all t’s and c’s
Couldn’t make it up | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 06:46 - Feb 18 with 765 views | Dr_Parnassus |
In the interests of transparency, all statement and explanation needs to be made as to how this decision came about.
If it was an internal vote then each board member should state which way they voted, and why. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 07:47 - Feb 18 with 742 views | BillyChong |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 05:44 - Feb 18 by vetchonian |
So who is to blame
Dalton is the chairman who agreed to a deal and signed it with knowing the terms and conditions.
This person apparently has run his own business for 20 years and also offer business advice would he sign an agreement in his “day” job without being aware of all t’s and c’s
Couldn’t make it up |
Yes, on a few occasions last night Dalton and Rupert were point blank unable to answer pertinent questions about this deal due to lack of knowledge/understanding on the detail. | | | |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 12:08 - Feb 18 with 657 views | max936 |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 06:46 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
In the interests of transparency, all statement and explanation needs to be made as to how this decision came about.
If it was an internal vote then each board member should state which way they voted, and why. |
No chance, no chance at all of that happening. |  |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 16:31 - Feb 18 with 597 views | KeithHaynes |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 22:09 - Feb 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What was wrong with the Dutchman's scheme? If he and the other directors arranged hospitality packages what is wrong with that? Good for them, the club. KLM and Cardiff Airport and the train company and south Wales taxi firms and car hire. Its business as long as it was done in standard business practice.
OK they were making money out of the club's success but so does Swansea Independant and less respected forums. |
Actually it gets better the worse we do 😂
But I get what you are saying. | |
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| Where do the trust go from here ? on 17:27 - Feb 18 with 570 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Where do the trust go from here ? on 16:31 - Feb 18 by KeithHaynes |
Actually it gets better the worse we do 😂
But I get what you are saying. |
That 5% could be a master stoke in the long term. What is the value of a 5% holding in a Premier league team in 2045 -2050? It is inflation proofed and dilution proofed. The membership of the Trust are not impressed but that is to be expected. They are content putting their money in an account earning 5%+ less than inflation and were not impressed
with the 10,000% gain provided for them. | |
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