| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 12:04 - Nov 3 with 1446 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 12:00 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
I cant believe it..we get a win away from home to a top six side who until last night were unbeaten at home and the board goes into meltdown....not because we won but because some decide to carry on with a campaign.
I admit was one who criticised Martin at the start of the season...the way we were playing was not yielding results the focus on short passing and keeping possesion rather than looking ofr attacking openings was killing us. Many loved this as it was us going back to "the Swansea Way" yet as was discussed by many...Roberto was not possesion forcused his matra was get the ball down get it forwards and if you socre 3 we'll score 4, SOusa was more conserative and Brendan applied a mix....the possesion and passing "Swansea Way" myth was generated after THAT Fulham goal.
IN fairness it seems that MArtin has tweaked his approach we are getting results we have now won 4 out of our last 5 games, we have played 5 of the current top 6 sides won 3 drawn 1 and lost 1...we are also watching some good football...
No one is having a go at MArtin's football philosphy here ...what has been discussed is how we have moved from an insistence to always play short passes to mixing it....Daps opened the discussion about how we played more long balls second half then the whole thing erupted .
I defended Cooper last season.....rememebr when even when we were winnin gposters came on here and moaned and criticised...they were and still are posters on this board and on PS who refer to our previous manager...and also do so using derogatory remarks..which shows their "dislike" of him due to his roots rather than the style and quality of the football he delivered....at the end of the day each individual is entitled to an opinion as I say at the gane you can find a different view of what we have watched from differednt people all sitting within seats of each other...even on here daps and Risca differed in their view of how we handled the ball in th esecond half...Daps believing we played more long balls and Risca belieiving we passed it out more... so that shows how we all see things differently even though we are watching the same thing!
NOne of us who criticesd Martin are saying that we only win when we play Cooperball...what ever that was but he is history and we are now playing well and winning once more. Just beacuse we play long bals its not hoofball, we are often playing thorugh balls along the floor for Piroe to get onto, people really need to get over their Cooperitits as it has been described.
Yes I like others some of whom no longer post I have noticed such as Lisa did question things at the start of the seasoin especially as there was a "euphoria" described by Lisa as akin to "The Emporers New CLothes"...
We arre now winning we have some attractive play but it seems some still want to play a sport of trolling by deliberately goading certain posters into replying ....and then building the confrontation
I got hacked off last season by some of the rubbish posted and still this season some is posted...like some of the myths and rewriting of history by your good self...but I dont contiunally hound individiuals like is happenin gon here and the other boardrd
We are all supposed to suppport the same side...there will never be at ime when every one agrees on the style of play, individual players and discussions will occur but of late there is a "divisdion" amongst the fan base whihc is beocming as vile between each other as we have for those up the road......
I have over the years sat near people who during Brendans time would scream and shout to stop just passing it espeacially when in our defensive third with shouts of "forward"....I ve heard people moaning about JAson Scotland...Wayne Routledge, opniniosn on here differ over Naughton, Grimes,so it will never be posible for everyone to agree but the way in which there is almost becoming a witch hunt to target individuals is beyond me....
We won we beat a top six side unbeaten at home this season and yet all some folks wnat to do is belittle fellow fans and socre points because they didnt particularly like or enjoy the football of our previous manager.
Most of the critics form the start of the season are actually praining MArtin but other predjuice is blinding them and biasing their view of what is actually being said...
Its time to move on and its time for all the trolling to stop and trolling os what it is .....comments like " he will be stating Coopers result was better than ours tonight" prove that... |
Now THAT is a good post. |  |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 12:30 - Nov 3 with 1401 views | magicdaps10 |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 12:00 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
I cant believe it..we get a win away from home to a top six side who until last night were unbeaten at home and the board goes into meltdown....not because we won but because some decide to carry on with a campaign.
I admit was one who criticised Martin at the start of the season...the way we were playing was not yielding results the focus on short passing and keeping possesion rather than looking ofr attacking openings was killing us. Many loved this as it was us going back to "the Swansea Way" yet as was discussed by many...Roberto was not possesion forcused his matra was get the ball down get it forwards and if you socre 3 we'll score 4, SOusa was more conserative and Brendan applied a mix....the possesion and passing "Swansea Way" myth was generated after THAT Fulham goal.
IN fairness it seems that MArtin has tweaked his approach we are getting results we have now won 4 out of our last 5 games, we have played 5 of the current top 6 sides won 3 drawn 1 and lost 1...we are also watching some good football...
No one is having a go at MArtin's football philosphy here ...what has been discussed is how we have moved from an insistence to always play short passes to mixing it....Daps opened the discussion about how we played more long balls second half then the whole thing erupted .
I defended Cooper last season.....rememebr when even when we were winnin gposters came on here and moaned and criticised...they were and still are posters on this board and on PS who refer to our previous manager...and also do so using derogatory remarks..which shows their "dislike" of him due to his roots rather than the style and quality of the football he delivered....at the end of the day each individual is entitled to an opinion as I say at the gane you can find a different view of what we have watched from differednt people all sitting within seats of each other...even on here daps and Risca differed in their view of how we handled the ball in th esecond half...Daps believing we played more long balls and Risca belieiving we passed it out more... so that shows how we all see things differently even though we are watching the same thing!
NOne of us who criticesd Martin are saying that we only win when we play Cooperball...what ever that was but he is history and we are now playing well and winning once more. Just beacuse we play long bals its not hoofball, we are often playing thorugh balls along the floor for Piroe to get onto, people really need to get over their Cooperitits as it has been described.
Yes I like others some of whom no longer post I have noticed such as Lisa did question things at the start of the seasoin especially as there was a "euphoria" described by Lisa as akin to "The Emporers New CLothes"...
We arre now winning we have some attractive play but it seems some still want to play a sport of trolling by deliberately goading certain posters into replying ....and then building the confrontation
I got hacked off last season by some of the rubbish posted and still this season some is posted...like some of the myths and rewriting of history by your good self...but I dont contiunally hound individiuals like is happenin gon here and the other boardrd
We are all supposed to suppport the same side...there will never be at ime when every one agrees on the style of play, individual players and discussions will occur but of late there is a "divisdion" amongst the fan base whihc is beocming as vile between each other as we have for those up the road......
I have over the years sat near people who during Brendans time would scream and shout to stop just passing it espeacially when in our defensive third with shouts of "forward"....I ve heard people moaning about JAson Scotland...Wayne Routledge, opniniosn on here differ over Naughton, Grimes,so it will never be posible for everyone to agree but the way in which there is almost becoming a witch hunt to target individuals is beyond me....
We won we beat a top six side unbeaten at home this season and yet all some folks wnat to do is belittle fellow fans and socre points because they didnt particularly like or enjoy the football of our previous manager.
Most of the critics form the start of the season are actually praining MArtin but other predjuice is blinding them and biasing their view of what is actually being said...
Its time to move on and its time for all the trolling to stop and trolling os what it is .....comments like " he will be stating Coopers result was better than ours tonight" prove that... |
Who was the poster that erupted to my opinion on bringing the ball down and looking after it?
Maybe a word in the shell like might but probably won't stop the havoc.
Must stress I never brought up about us playing more long balls nor did I mention second half... My post is on page 4 if anyone wants to reference what I said. |  |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 12:40 - Nov 3 with 1392 views | magicdaps10 |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 21:47 - Nov 2 by magicdaps10 |
Big win that, another to add to the confidence.
Would have been happy with 2 points from this game and Bournemouth(2 draws) so this is a +1 with the win.
There is becoming a feeling that we might be onto something here, Martin really is bringing something to the table quicker than I imagined and with a swagger with it.
My only downside, we need to keep to the passing game and not panic especially when we go ahead, 2 goals up away from home we just need to play our game, bring the ball down, pass it and let the opposition chase it.
This Martin guy is a bit special isn't he or is it just me getting carried away with this result... Think Bournemouth might give us some answers, they need to lose at some point 🤔 |
This is the post that I supposedly said we played more long balls second half.
Just wanted to bring it in here to show that vetch has mistakenly read it incorrectly, I would hope and trust that he isn't accusing me on starting anything so would just like to point out I never mentioned long balls or second half. | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:23 - Nov 3 with 1335 views | Dr_Winston |
Writing a twelve paragraph, 800-900 word defence of another clubs manager during a Swansea match thread is a wee bit obsessive.
Not healthy really. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:24 - Nov 3 with 1335 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 12:40 - Nov 3 by magicdaps10 |
This is the post that I supposedly said we played more long balls second half.
Just wanted to bring it in here to show that vetch has mistakenly read it incorrectly, I would hope and trust that he isn't accusing me on starting anything so would just like to point out I never mentioned long balls or second half. |
This just proves how we can all "see things" differently, I alos shows how these dyas the "discussions" get out of hand.
I correct myself the discussion opened up following your post as shown and the post by Risca immediaitely below that one which had "conflicting " views then the boards residient stat man...who like me prefrs to use data rather than eomtion to reinforce an "arguement" became specific.
SO yes you didnt actually mention the second half.....or long balls....but what are you inferring when you talk of
"My only downside, we need to keep to the passing game and not panic especially when we go ahead, 2 goals up away from home we just need to play our game, bring the ball down, pass it and let the opposition chase it."
But my point stands it is time to move from these petty "fights" between us as fans after all we are supposed to be on the same side....just because some have criticised this season when things were not going well doesnt mean we dont support ...its the same as those who didint like Cooper ball..... |  |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:41 - Nov 3 with 1299 views | magicdaps10 |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:24 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
This just proves how we can all "see things" differently, I alos shows how these dyas the "discussions" get out of hand.
I correct myself the discussion opened up following your post as shown and the post by Risca immediaitely below that one which had "conflicting " views then the boards residient stat man...who like me prefrs to use data rather than eomtion to reinforce an "arguement" became specific.
SO yes you didnt actually mention the second half.....or long balls....but what are you inferring when you talk of
"My only downside, we need to keep to the passing game and not panic especially when we go ahead, 2 goals up away from home we just need to play our game, bring the ball down, pass it and let the opposition chase it."
But my point stands it is time to move from these petty "fights" between us as fans after all we are supposed to be on the same side....just because some have criticised this season when things were not going well doesnt mean we dont support ...its the same as those who didint like Cooper ball..... |
Atleast you see I didn't say that and very decent of you to admit to it.
Thanks. | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:57 - Nov 3 with 1280 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:23 - Nov 3 by Dr_Winston |
Writing a twelve paragraph, 800-900 word defence of another clubs manager during a Swansea match thread is a wee bit obsessive.
Not healthy really. |
This post of yours is a great example of trolling....
Please then post this example you speak of so I can offer some defenxe...but again you dont want to move on fans like you this club could do without....
We are all entitiled to our opinions and we will not always agree but we all deserve diginity and respect we are all supposed to be on the same side..yet when others disagree with you it beocmes a campaign.... | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:58 - Nov 3 with 1267 views | onehunglow |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:24 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
This just proves how we can all "see things" differently, I alos shows how these dyas the "discussions" get out of hand.
I correct myself the discussion opened up following your post as shown and the post by Risca immediaitely below that one which had "conflicting " views then the boards residient stat man...who like me prefrs to use data rather than eomtion to reinforce an "arguement" became specific.
SO yes you didnt actually mention the second half.....or long balls....but what are you inferring when you talk of
"My only downside, we need to keep to the passing game and not panic especially when we go ahead, 2 goals up away from home we just need to play our game, bring the ball down, pass it and let the opposition chase it."
But my point stands it is time to move from these petty "fights" between us as fans after all we are supposed to be on the same side....just because some have criticised this season when things were not going well doesnt mean we dont support ...its the same as those who didint like Cooper ball..... |
Class posting. | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 14:00 - Nov 3 with 1259 views | onehunglow |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:57 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
This post of yours is a great example of trolling....
Please then post this example you speak of so I can offer some defenxe...but again you dont want to move on fans like you this club could do without....
We are all entitiled to our opinions and we will not always agree but we all deserve diginity and respect we are all supposed to be on the same side..yet when others disagree with you it beocmes a campaign.... |
If you disagree with Dr Winston an show him up he will remember you for decades,literally.
Truly ,you have called him out . | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 14:04 - Nov 3 with 1263 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:23 - Nov 3 by Dr_Winston |
Writing a twelve paragraph, 800-900 word defence of another clubs manager during a Swansea match thread is a wee bit obsessive.
Not healthy really. |
And if you interpret my post to which I now realise you are referring as a defence of Cooper it reinforces my point ....you like others are allowing your dislike and Cooper and his style to blind and bias what you read.
Explain to me how that post is in any way a defence of Cooper?
YOur starter for 10.....I ask others too is this a defence of Cooper? | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 15:55 - Nov 3 with 1175 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 14:04 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
And if you interpret my post to which I now realise you are referring as a defence of Cooper it reinforces my point ....you like others are allowing your dislike and Cooper and his style to blind and bias what you read.
Explain to me how that post is in any way a defence of Cooper?
YOur starter for 10.....I ask others too is this a defence of Cooper? |
You do mention Cooper rather a lot vetch. I said to you in a previous thread, no issues with the man, just didn't enjoy his football, it really is that simple. |  | | |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:07 - Nov 3 with 1165 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 15:55 - Nov 3 by Treforys_Jack |
You do mention Cooper rather a lot vetch. I said to you in a previous thread, no issues with the man, just didn't enjoy his football, it really is that simple. |
But if you read the post the Tawe Troll is referring to is it really a defence of Cooper?
Yes I have mentioned him a lot but others like this poster I am questioning seems to have an unhealthy obsession and brings him up frequently in non related threads to "abuse" him..
Its time we moved on we have a new manager...and time we as fans united we wont always agree but as my posts say there is becoming a vitriol posted by some supposedly fans of our own that would normally be saved for the likes of them up the road.... | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:14 - Nov 3 with 1154 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:07 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
But if you read the post the Tawe Troll is referring to is it really a defence of Cooper?
Yes I have mentioned him a lot but others like this poster I am questioning seems to have an unhealthy obsession and brings him up frequently in non related threads to "abuse" him..
Its time we moved on we have a new manager...and time we as fans united we wont always agree but as my posts say there is becoming a vitriol posted by some supposedly fans of our own that would normally be saved for the likes of them up the road.... |
When there's such a change in style it's only natural to compare present to previous. | | | |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:19 - Nov 3 with 1146 views | KeithHaynes |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:07 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
But if you read the post the Tawe Troll is referring to is it really a defence of Cooper?
Yes I have mentioned him a lot but others like this poster I am questioning seems to have an unhealthy obsession and brings him up frequently in non related threads to "abuse" him..
Its time we moved on we have a new manager...and time we as fans united we wont always agree but as my posts say there is becoming a vitriol posted by some supposedly fans of our own that would normally be saved for the likes of them up the road.... |
Not disagreeing at all.
The site was totally supportive if Cooper, of course others were not, even when he was here. However, that’s what the forum is for. Opinions. I think we carried around 11 personal articles on him. His ability with young players, and what he has learned at Swansea will put him in good stead as a manager for years to come I’m sure. He is an incredible man manager for me as well. I have to say IF we compare Martin’s football to Cooper’s I know I would prefer Martin. But then recent results should change the minds of the most doubtful of his abilities.
It’s a natural thing to compare the current manager and the last one. For me, we’ve been incredibly fortuitous to have three excellent managers since relegation from the premier league. And for that the people who run the club should be praised. |  |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:19 - Nov 3 with 1146 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:14 - Nov 3 by Treforys_Jack |
When there's such a change in style it's only natural to compare present to previous. |
But again I ask do you really believe my post is a defence of Cooper?
The post was not about styles or managers it was about how people post..... | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 17:13 - Nov 3 with 1084 views | onehunglow |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:19 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
But again I ask do you really believe my post is a defence of Cooper?
The post was not about styles or managers it was about how people post..... |
Vetch. It doesn’t .
Take it from the best poster on here. Me.  | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 17:36 - Nov 3 with 1061 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 16:19 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
But again I ask do you really believe my post is a defence of Cooper?
The post was not about styles or managers it was about how people post..... |
You keep saying posters are being negative because Cooper was from Cardiff. | | | |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 18:43 - Nov 3 with 991 views | magicdaps10 |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 13:24 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
This just proves how we can all "see things" differently, I alos shows how these dyas the "discussions" get out of hand.
I correct myself the discussion opened up following your post as shown and the post by Risca immediaitely below that one which had "conflicting " views then the boards residient stat man...who like me prefrs to use data rather than eomtion to reinforce an "arguement" became specific.
SO yes you didnt actually mention the second half.....or long balls....but what are you inferring when you talk of
"My only downside, we need to keep to the passing game and not panic especially when we go ahead, 2 goals up away from home we just need to play our game, bring the ball down, pass it and let the opposition chase it."
But my point stands it is time to move from these petty "fights" between us as fans after all we are supposed to be on the same side....just because some have criticised this season when things were not going well doesnt mean we dont support ...its the same as those who didint like Cooper ball..... |
Sorry, missed your question asking what I was referring too.... I meant be more relaxed with the ball and not rush and that helps greatly against the press.
As said, I never said long ball nor did I mention second half.... All rather strange where this one was made up! | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 19:30 - Nov 3 with 940 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Some top tier posting from vetch on this one. Top tier. | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 20:21 - Nov 3 with 891 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 13:23 - Nov 3 by Dr_Winston |
Writing a twelve paragraph, 800-900 word defence of another clubs manager during a Swansea match thread is a wee bit obsessive.
Not healthy really. |
still no answer to my question | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 20:30 - Nov 3 with 878 views | Dr_Winston |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread AFTERMATH on 20:21 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
still no answer to my question |
Oh I'm sorry. You were serious?
Vetchy, you react like a teenage girl when someone disses their favourite boyband if anything remotely disparaging is said about the last two seasons and the incumbent at the time. The entire magnum opus post was in response to someone referring to "Cooperball", and it ain't the first time you've done it.
You can't help yourself, but you should try. You'd be happier. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:33 - Nov 3 with 875 views | vetchonian |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 18:43 - Nov 3 by magicdaps10 |
Sorry, missed your question asking what I was referring too.... I meant be more relaxed with the ball and not rush and that helps greatly against the press.
As said, I never said long ball nor did I mention second half.... All rather strange where this one was made up! |
thank you for the clarification though the original post could be interpreted as getting the ball down on the floor and passing it around rather than kicking it in the air and long..
But thank you for the clarification | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:40 - Nov 3 with 859 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:33 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
thank you for the clarification though the original post could be interpreted as getting the ball down on the floor and passing it around rather than kicking it in the air and long..
But thank you for the clarification |
Beeeep beeeep daps reversing. Daps reversing.
In response to his initial comment, I told him that we kicked it long more in the first half and he went on a rant that he will trust his eyes and not the match facts.
He then went on to slate “long ball” interpretation.
He’s finally settled on the fact that he didn’t mean long now after all.
What a wonderful world.  | |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:49 - Nov 3 with 840 views | magicdaps10 |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:33 - Nov 3 by vetchonian |
thank you for the clarification though the original post could be interpreted as getting the ball down on the floor and passing it around rather than kicking it in the air and long..
But thank you for the clarification |
Not a problem, I just had to clarify that I did not type what was suggested and appreciate that you realise that I didn't, thanks.
I can't control how people can incorrectly interpret a post but certainly will try to clarify any of my posts if there is any confusion.
Agree with you, more than happy to bring a bit of harmony to the site for the greater cause 👠| |
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| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:51 - Nov 3 with 832 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Coventry City v Swansea City 2021/22 : Matchday Thread TUESDAY on 20:49 - Nov 3 by magicdaps10 |
Not a problem, I just had to clarify that I did not type what was suggested and appreciate that you realise that I didn't, thanks.
I can't control how people can incorrectly interpret a post but certainly will try to clarify any of my posts if there is any confusion.
Agree with you, more than happy to bring a bit of harmony to the site for the greater cause 👠|
Glad you now agree.
Took a while. | |
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