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Notice of Intended prosecution 09:40 - Oct 15 with 10106 viewsjack_lord

What a start to the day.

Wife has had a notice of intended prosecution for not wearing a seatbelt.

Almost certainly that was me because she never drives when I have a week off and she wouldn't drive without one.

What we call the speed camera van probably caught whoever was responsible.

What I am actually saying is don't drive without a seat belt because those vans aren't just there to catch you speeding.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:28 - Oct 22 with 1403 viewsJack123

Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:14 - Oct 22 by controversial_jack

We may not all agree that we have commit ed an offence. We may have transgressed some form of legislation, but we don't all feel like criminals if we have gone an extra mph over the speed limit etc and nobody has been harmed.That limit may be increased or decreased the next week.

There are hundreds of thousands of so celled laws and statutes, it's impossible for anyone to know them all even judges and barristers.

If I have committed some infringement, i will try my best to get around it, however If there is a victim and some injured party, and I know it's my fault then I will put my hands up


Cancel that, I read it wrong.
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Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:42 - Oct 22 with 1386 viewsjack_lord

Notice of Intended prosecution on 22:43 - Oct 22 by Sirjohnalot

The ticket will tell you which camera clocked you and the time so you’ll be able to work out where on the map in relation to the pub the camera was.


The ticket says the name of the road outside the pub, it was about 1 ish when you were dropped off. The offence was committed at 1PM. Who was driving?

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 00:08 - Oct 23 with 1352 viewsmajorraglan

Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:42 - Oct 22 by jack_lord

The ticket says the name of the road outside the pub, it was about 1 ish when you were dropped off. The offence was committed at 1PM. Who was driving?


Ask for a copy of the photograph/evidence and it will be clear, if it isn’t ask which way the camera was pointing. These are all questions that should be answered.,
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Notice of Intended prosecution on 08:08 - Oct 23 with 1325 viewsSirjohnalot

Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:42 - Oct 22 by jack_lord

The ticket says the name of the road outside the pub, it was about 1 ish when you were dropped off. The offence was committed at 1PM. Who was driving?


That would be a arguable defence, but if you drove to the pub and your wife drove away, the position of the camera should,be able to tell you, as it either be before or just after the pub.

If it before (as in you were driving TO the pub,) it’s you. If there is also one (bearing in mind they only flash one way) driving away from the pub, it’s her.

If there are two camera, on either side of the road, explain this in your reply and ask them which one it is. If they do, you can explain if not, they cannot prove it,

On another point, either reply by recorded delivery or take a video, picture of you posting it, or have a witness with you, in case it goes missing
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Notice of Intended prosecution on 10:05 - Oct 23 with 1299 viewsjack_lord

Notice of Intended prosecution on 08:08 - Oct 23 by Sirjohnalot

That would be a arguable defence, but if you drove to the pub and your wife drove away, the position of the camera should,be able to tell you, as it either be before or just after the pub.

If it before (as in you were driving TO the pub,) it’s you. If there is also one (bearing in mind they only flash one way) driving away from the pub, it’s her.

If there are two camera, on either side of the road, explain this in your reply and ask them which one it is. If they do, you can explain if not, they cannot prove it,

On another point, either reply by recorded delivery or take a video, picture of you posting it, or have a witness with you, in case it goes missing


This is hypothetical. It was suggested above who doesn't know who was driving their car. The camera will confirm in any case.

It did actually happen to us about 10 years ago on a Saturday evening when a similar scenario occurred. Turned out it was my wife who was driving but I nearly got the fine and the points.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:11 - Nov 9 with 1191 viewshowenjack

Probably lectures on the dangers of Covid...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10181593/Terminally-ill-retired-lecture
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Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:18 - Nov 9 with 1182 viewsonehunglow

Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:11 - Nov 9 by howenjack

Probably lectures on the dangers of Covid...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10181593/Terminally-ill-retired-lecture


Yet,they are terrified to lock up Rebellion protesters

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:59 - Nov 9 with 1174 viewsBoundy

Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:14 - Oct 22 by controversial_jack

We may not all agree that we have commit ed an offence. We may have transgressed some form of legislation, but we don't all feel like criminals if we have gone an extra mph over the speed limit etc and nobody has been harmed.That limit may be increased or decreased the next week.

There are hundreds of thousands of so celled laws and statutes, it's impossible for anyone to know them all even judges and barristers.

If I have committed some infringement, i will try my best to get around it, however If there is a victim and some injured party, and I know it's my fault then I will put my hands up


On reading this snippet "If I have committed some infringement, i will try my best to get around it, however If there is a victim and some injured party, and I know it's my fault then I will put my hands up " Then I'd say that's the last thing you'd do . Not willing to pay up when you know you're guilty and the offence is of a minor nature but willing to admit your
guilt when the punishment could be greater , don't think so

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 21:02 - Nov 9 with 1126 viewscontroversial_jack

Notice of Intended prosecution on 15:59 - Nov 9 by Boundy

On reading this snippet "If I have committed some infringement, i will try my best to get around it, however If there is a victim and some injured party, and I know it's my fault then I will put my hands up " Then I'd say that's the last thing you'd do . Not willing to pay up when you know you're guilty and the offence is of a minor nature but willing to admit your
guilt when the punishment could be greater , don't think so


No, only if there is an actual victim. Read it properly
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Notice of Intended prosecution on 21:40 - Nov 9 with 1097 viewsBoundy

Notice of Intended prosecution on 21:02 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack

No, only if there is an actual victim. Read it properly


I did and it still reads the same for me .

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 09:06 - Nov 11 with 1009 viewsjack_lord

Notice of Intended prosecution on 21:40 - Nov 9 by Boundy

I did and it still reads the same for me .


online course, 52 quid no points but you can't do it again for a few years. Course takes about half an hour.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:30 - Nov 11 with 958 viewsfbreath

Notice of Intended prosecution on 09:06 - Nov 11 by jack_lord

online course, 52 quid no points but you can't do it again for a few years. Course takes about half an hour.


I did speed awareness course in Cardiff about 3 years ago caught doing 75 near Bristol junction coming to Swansea from Heathrow around 2am in the morning.

I'm sure the course was around half a day. Sitting listening to presenter talking to everyone like little children. Some people got wound up by it all, but I just sat there let them waffle on and then got out of there. There was some interesting info as well.

They do watch for peoples attitudes so being obtuse will not go down well. Best to just sit there look like you are listening and then leave.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:39 - Nov 11 with 954 viewsbuilthjack

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:30 - Nov 11 by fbreath

I did speed awareness course in Cardiff about 3 years ago caught doing 75 near Bristol junction coming to Swansea from Heathrow around 2am in the morning.

I'm sure the course was around half a day. Sitting listening to presenter talking to everyone like little children. Some people got wound up by it all, but I just sat there let them waffle on and then got out of there. There was some interesting info as well.

They do watch for peoples attitudes so being obtuse will not go down well. Best to just sit there look like you are listening and then leave.


Has to be done online now. £92. 3 hours.
Nice moneymaker.
Friend was doing 34.4 in a 30mph. In a line of traffic.
He got done, and presumed the others did too.
The course tutor told him that they will do you for doing over 10% plus 1. So he was 0.4mph over the poor bugger.
He is 72. Has no hi tec besides a basic phone.
So had to borrow someone's iPhone to do the course.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:43 - Nov 11 with 950 viewsonehunglow

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:39 - Nov 11 by builthjack

Has to be done online now. £92. 3 hours.
Nice moneymaker.
Friend was doing 34.4 in a 30mph. In a line of traffic.
He got done, and presumed the others did too.
The course tutor told him that they will do you for doing over 10% plus 1. So he was 0.4mph over the poor bugger.
He is 72. Has no hi tec besides a basic phone.
So had to borrow someone's iPhone to do the course.


Wife was done in Ellesmere Port after visiting her old mum.33 in a 30 but it's over the limit.

I got rid of my bike because it was too easy to go too quickly,not so much in town but in National Speed limit areas. Heddlu Gog very keen .

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:53 - Nov 11 with 935 viewsRonaldStump

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:43 - Nov 11 by onehunglow

Wife was done in Ellesmere Port after visiting her old mum.33 in a 30 but it's over the limit.

I got rid of my bike because it was too easy to go too quickly,not so much in town but in National Speed limit areas. Heddlu Gog very keen .


Chuck your NIP on here, they'll get it sorted for you http://www.pepipoo.com/

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:56 - Nov 11 with 933 viewsBoundy

its a limit , not target .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 12:57 - Nov 11 with 923 viewsfbreath

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:56 - Nov 11 by Boundy

its a limit , not target .


Spoken just like one of the instructors

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 13:03 - Nov 11 with 922 viewsBoundy

Notice of Intended prosecution on 12:57 - Nov 11 by fbreath

Spoken just like one of the instructors


Its not a bad mantra to remember imo

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 19:55 - Nov 11 with 880 viewsjack_lord

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:39 - Nov 11 by builthjack

Has to be done online now. £92. 3 hours.
Nice moneymaker.
Friend was doing 34.4 in a 30mph. In a line of traffic.
He got done, and presumed the others did too.
The course tutor told him that they will do you for doing over 10% plus 1. So he was 0.4mph over the poor bugger.
He is 72. Has no hi tec besides a basic phone.
So had to borrow someone's iPhone to do the course.


The OP is about the NIP for not wearing a seatbelt (caught on cam) and the course 30 minutes with the fine mentioned.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 22:28 - Nov 11 with 841 viewsbuilthjack

Notice of Intended prosecution on 19:55 - Nov 11 by jack_lord

The OP is about the NIP for not wearing a seatbelt (caught on cam) and the course 30 minutes with the fine mentioned.


Ah yes. Mine was about speeding.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:05 - Nov 11 with 834 viewsKeithHaynes

Notice of Intended prosecution on 19:55 - Nov 11 by jack_lord

The OP is about the NIP for not wearing a seatbelt (caught on cam) and the course 30 minutes with the fine mentioned.


I’ve definitely put on a seat belt quicker.

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Notice of Intended prosecution on 23:18 - Nov 11 with 828 viewsSirjohnalot

Notice of Intended prosecution on 11:53 - Nov 11 by RonaldStump

Chuck your NIP on here, they'll get it sorted for you http://www.pepipoo.com/


Honestly. Please don’t. Seek representation from a criminal solicitor (don’t need a specialist road traffic one)
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