| Enough is enough 12:20 - Apr 30 with 8334 views | Professor |
I was one of those who complained to Keith, not about a specific post but due too the consistent posting of conspiracy theories and material which is sailing very close to the wind in terms of extreme right wing politics. I would equally complain if this were extreme left-wing promoting violence, anti-semitism etc.
I am sick of misogyny, xenophobia, thinly veiled racism and name calling. There is a clear right-wing cabal, who circle with material of some legitimate and some dubious sources-including some downright lies. We are all entitled to an opinion, but it clearly laughable to suggest there is a left-wing cabal. There are a few 'true' left wingers on here with strong convictions in their beliefs, but most of are us sit in a spectrum between the politics of Thatcherism and moderate socialism. Yet to express this view makes one a left, marxist, bullshitter and the other names tossed my way in recent months. Funny really as someone who believes in private enterprise and capitalism, albeit tempered with equality of opportunity. I am a Labour Party member, though left for a period under Corbyn's leadership as I considered this beyond my line of acceptability-so, yes I guess I site somewhere around the Blair/Brown degree of 'socialism'-or a Red Tory. I support the police, but equally will criticise where they blunder. That's how we can help improve policing. I'm not particularly 'woke' but dislike racism, homophobia and sexism. I equally have issues with over use of positive discrimination. Like all of us I have contradictions.
Life is too short and precious to carry on arguing with those so far down a rabbit hole that the sunlight of humanity no longer reaches them. So thanks to those who have made my laugh, think and open up new discoveries-not exhaustively but Cattulus, Scotia, the late Fiery Jack, Gwyn, Chad, Joe Bradshaw, Lisa and Lohengrin-it's been a pleasure. Pikey-keep it up, your posts make me smile and Felixtowe-thanks for your commitment to updating the vaccine data.
Keith-good luck and thanks for your work on here the last year.
As Bugs Bunny says
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| Enough is enough on 12:26 - Apr 30 with 4419 views | builthjack |
This forum has lots of right wingers at the moment Prof. Dont let them get to you. Tell them to get their blinkers off, or ignore them and let them talk to themselves.
You are a great poster, so stay on and ignore the people who annoy you. They are not worth it. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 12:40 - Apr 30 with 4384 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Have I missed a thread on here?
I'm still yet to see a racist, homophobic or misogynistic comment in all my years on here. Certainly nothing promoting violence and anti-semitism. Where have you seen these kinds of comments out of curiosity?
Doesn't matter which side of the political divide you sit, if those sorts of comments are pointed out then everyone will be against it and am sure Keith will act appropriately.
But you should debate your point with whoever you are referring to, having a difference of political opinion isn't a reason to stop posting. Stand your ground and give your views. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 12:56]
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| Enough is enough on 13:21 - Apr 30 with 4320 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
"misogyny, xenophobia, thinly veiled racism and name calling....some dubious sources-including some downright lies"
These accusations are easy to make.
Where is your evidence to back your claims up?
'The New York Times' publishes downright lies, not 'Project Veritas', this has been proven in court...it leaves you with nowhere to go doesn't it. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 13:26 - Apr 30 with 4310 views | monmouth |
Come back to PS prof. No one right left or centre posts on there most of the time. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 13:30 - Apr 30 with 4271 views | Kilkennyjack |
Thanks Prof.
Always enjoyed your contributions. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 13:32 - Apr 30 with 4277 views | Dr_Winston |
Altogether far too many tedious trolls going undealt with. It's a pity most people just don't ignore them. Engaging with these specimens just keeps them coming back. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Enough is enough on 13:42 - Apr 30 with 4276 views | Kerouac |
What the Prof and people like him want is for their views not to be challenged.
It is pathetic in the extreme, childish.
I could have complained multiple times,I have been called names and set upon by multiple posters at a time, the Left use sources that I find to be pushing lies...I would never anonymously complain and try to censor anybody, was not brought up that way I’m afraid.
People like the Prof seem happy to engage as long as they think they are winning, as soon as you provide conclusive proof that the line they was pushing was wrong they switch to censorship. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 13:49 - Apr 30 with 4242 views | onehunglow |
I am disappointed that Paul ha posted in this way. It is wildly inaccurate and I worry a to where this site is going right now.
I got all manner of filth aimed at me yesterday. A vindictive,personal attack by garyjack backed up by lifelonglifey. It is the old site reincarnated alright.
How can anyone be a member of the Labour party yet be objective about what is right wing or not. Is right wing evil and if so who says so? The only cabal i left wing and it is obvious.It is so because that which pertains to socialism will always be pre eminent on here.Those not having that are hammered,like Kerouac who now seems to be the Devil .
Winston' use of specimen is typical of a deeply cynical man with a history of arrogant bile. He aims to carry on the old agenda of the previous ite which is why he refers to me as perchy.You can be guaranteed that this is sinister .
And Gary. You could always have rung me if so indignant over a text you interpreted spectacularly wrong.
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| Enough is enough on 13:52 - Apr 30 with 4237 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I am still none the wiser as what has been said.
I think it's important its singled out because throwing mud at a website can stick, and often that mud is thrown unjustly.
Anyone share any light? | |
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| Enough is enough on 14:05 - Apr 30 with 4217 views | Scotia |
I must say there have been some pretty barmy threads on here recently.
I haven't contributed to them because I have no particular interest in the US, especially the US media, and certainly have no interest in conspiracy theories.
To be honest it's just made me feel lucky to be British. We've got our problems, but they appear to be dwarfed by those on the other side of the Atlantic.
On another note. Thanks for your posts and knowledge Prof, they've been invaluable in the current situation. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 14:08]
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| Enough is enough on 14:18 - Apr 30 with 4180 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Enough is enough on 13:42 - Apr 30 by Kerouac |
What the Prof and people like him want is for their views not to be challenged.
It is pathetic in the extreme, childish.
I could have complained multiple times,I have been called names and set upon by multiple posters at a time, the Left use sources that I find to be pushing lies...I would never anonymously complain and try to censor anybody, was not brought up that way I’m afraid.
People like the Prof seem happy to engage as long as they think they are winning, as soon as you provide conclusive proof that the line they was pushing was wrong they switch to censorship. |
"they switch to censorship"
Not before switching to verbal abuse and name calling.
I have had it for years from the very same people that are complaining now.
The irony of name callers complaining about name calling is delicious. | | | |
| Enough is enough on 14:23 - Apr 30 with 4164 views | Gwyn737 |
| Enough is enough on 14:05 - Apr 30 by Scotia |
I must say there have been some pretty barmy threads on here recently.
I haven't contributed to them because I have no particular interest in the US, especially the US media, and certainly have no interest in conspiracy theories.
To be honest it's just made me feel lucky to be British. We've got our problems, but they appear to be dwarfed by those on the other side of the Atlantic.
On another note. Thanks for your posts and knowledge Prof, they've been invaluable in the current situation. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 14:08]
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Seconded.
Prof, your patience when challenged with some pretty outlandish claims in your field of experience has been fantastic.
In regard to barmy threads, I think the line between stimulating debate and being antagonistic has been missed by some. I think Keith has managed this as well as he could.
At the end of the day it’s an Internet forum. Nobody ‘wins’. That’s not the way it works. Even when facts are presented it’s virtually impossible in most cases to provide a causal link, and so it continues. Nothing ever gets solved on an Internet forum.
FWIW I may disagree on things with many on here, but it wouldn’t stop me going for a beer with anyone. | | | |
| Enough is enough on 14:24 - Apr 30 with 4161 views | hobo |
What an odd thread |  | | |
| Enough is enough on 14:35 - Apr 30 with 4141 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Enough is enough on 14:24 - Apr 30 by hobo |
What an odd thread |
I really can’t figure it out.
I just had a look at the posts made today and can’t find anything that has triggered it. Absolutely baffled. I wanted to make sure it wasn’t something I had missed and not “called out” on a thread. But haven’t been able to locate anything that even comes close to anything described.
It’s a shame though because broad accusations like this can damage a website.
I’m sure the OP hasn’t done it intentionally, but at this stage I think specific examples do need to be singled out. I would guess there has been some miscommunication somewhere along the line and the OP has misinterpreted someone.
I can’t imagine anyone on here saying such things unchallenged. | |
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| Enough is enough on 15:05 - Apr 30 with 4109 views | pikeypaul |
| Enough is enough on 14:18 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
"they switch to censorship"
Not before switching to verbal abuse and name calling.
I have had it for years from the very same people that are complaining now.
The irony of name callers complaining about name calling is delicious. |
So true.
They can give it out in spades , but cry like little babies and make up groundless, false accusations if challenged or someone dares to have an opposite view.
It’s the left wing all over.they don’t like it up em.
The trouble with people like pretentious prof is that he’s surrounded by lefties in the propaganda camp he works in and hates it and can’t handle the fact others outside his camp have other political views from his far left agenda.
I respect his right to have his opinion maybe he should respect others to have theirs instead of acting like a spoilt child. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 15:12]
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| Enough is enough on 15:16 - Apr 30 with 4088 views | Flashberryjack |
| Enough is enough on 14:24 - Apr 30 by hobo |
What an odd thread |
Seems some people on here disagree with people disagreeing with them...how very precious.
Feel free to disagree. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 15:23 - Apr 30 with 4068 views | trampie |
Try not to let them get you down Prof, hope you stay, the likes of Kilkenny, Builth and myself need all the help we can get, the right wing have taken over on here as well as the outside World.
I enjoy your posts on covid and you have been a help to me as regards looking after chickens, thanks for the up arrows particularly on this subject of the right wing cabal on here.  |  |
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| Enough is enough on 15:51 - Apr 30 with 4025 views | trampie |
| Enough is enough on 14:35 - Apr 30 by Dr_Parnassus |
I really can’t figure it out.
I just had a look at the posts made today and can’t find anything that has triggered it. Absolutely baffled. I wanted to make sure it wasn’t something I had missed and not “called out” on a thread. But haven’t been able to locate anything that even comes close to anything described.
It’s a shame though because broad accusations like this can damage a website.
I’m sure the OP hasn’t done it intentionally, but at this stage I think specific examples do need to be singled out. I would guess there has been some miscommunication somewhere along the line and the OP has misinterpreted someone.
I can’t imagine anyone on here saying such things unchallenged. |
"Governments across the World tend to be on the 'right' of the political spectrum, the 'right' to maintain their dominance label some news outlets that might criticise them as left wing, it's a game by the right wing and populations have fallen for it, the right wing is totally dominant across the World, even China and Russia are capitalist countries these days."
Prof gave this an up arrow on the deleted threads thread yesterday, that post of mine was on the back of me noting that this and the new site are both full of right wingers and asking who are the left wingers and who are the right wingers on here ?, if I was to make a list the list of right wingers would be far longer than the list of left wingers.
The powers that be are playing the people, I seen an article the other day about where political parties stand on a political graph and the Republican party in the USA (Trump's crowd) are far right by European standards they are basically a fascist party (the articles phrase not mine), yet people are so brainwashed that if a respected media outlet calls them that the media outlet are labelled as left wing.
The reason I'm on the case is I seen it decades ago the Labour party doing it to Plaid labelling them when they are a middle of the road slightly left of centre party, a nicey nice party labelled as extremists, you could not make it up but Labour did and now it's happening across the World, the right wing rule the world and to stop any criticism they immediately label the critics as left wing, even the BBC lol.
A study was done by Welsh experts commissioned by the BBC and the BBC are right wing (that was obvious I seen their coverage on Scottish ref, Israel, EU, General Elections, trade disputes etc) yet they get called left wing, the right wing are playing a game and have won, the right is dominant in all aspects of our lives. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 15:53]
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| Enough is enough on 16:11 - Apr 30 with 4002 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Enough is enough on 15:51 - Apr 30 by trampie |
"Governments across the World tend to be on the 'right' of the political spectrum, the 'right' to maintain their dominance label some news outlets that might criticise them as left wing, it's a game by the right wing and populations have fallen for it, the right wing is totally dominant across the World, even China and Russia are capitalist countries these days."
Prof gave this an up arrow on the deleted threads thread yesterday, that post of mine was on the back of me noting that this and the new site are both full of right wingers and asking who are the left wingers and who are the right wingers on here ?, if I was to make a list the list of right wingers would be far longer than the list of left wingers.
The powers that be are playing the people, I seen an article the other day about where political parties stand on a political graph and the Republican party in the USA (Trump's crowd) are far right by European standards they are basically a fascist party (the articles phrase not mine), yet people are so brainwashed that if a respected media outlet calls them that the media outlet are labelled as left wing.
The reason I'm on the case is I seen it decades ago the Labour party doing it to Plaid labelling them when they are a middle of the road slightly left of centre party, a nicey nice party labelled as extremists, you could not make it up but Labour did and now it's happening across the World, the right wing rule the world and to stop any criticism they immediately label the critics as left wing, even the BBC lol.
A study was done by Welsh experts commissioned by the BBC and the BBC are right wing (that was obvious I seen their coverage on Scottish ref, Israel, EU, General Elections, trade disputes etc) yet they get called left wing, the right wing are playing a game and have won, the right is dominant in all aspects of our lives. [Post edited 30 Apr 2021 15:53]
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Being on the right is fine though. Some of the most sensible people on the planet are centre or right leaning.
I wasn’t concerned about that.
I was concerned about the accusations in the OP. Being on the right and being guilty of the accusations in the OP aren’t the same thing. | |
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| Enough is enough on 16:27 - Apr 30 with 3982 views | KeithHaynes |
All,I can say to the prof is stick to the football forum, it’s ok in the main. Your posts are from an experienced pint of view regards many things, to lose that input would be a great shame. |  |
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| Enough is enough on 16:30 - Apr 30 with 3977 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Enough is enough on 13:42 - Apr 30 by Kerouac |
What the Prof and people like him want is for their views not to be challenged.
It is pathetic in the extreme, childish.
I could have complained multiple times,I have been called names and set upon by multiple posters at a time, the Left use sources that I find to be pushing lies...I would never anonymously complain and try to censor anybody, was not brought up that way I’m afraid.
People like the Prof seem happy to engage as long as they think they are winning, as soon as you provide conclusive proof that the line they was pushing was wrong they switch to censorship. |
"As long as they are winning" grow up man, its a forum with faceless strangers for the most part. There is no winning or losing. |  | | |
| Enough is enough on 17:18 - Apr 30 with 3925 views | Catullus |
| Enough is enough on 12:26 - Apr 30 by builthjack |
This forum has lots of right wingers at the moment Prof. Dont let them get to you. Tell them to get their blinkers off, or ignore them and let them talk to themselves.
You are a great poster, so stay on and ignore the people who annoy you. They are not worth it. |
I am 100% with you here Builthy, don't do it Prof, don't let them get you down. I just put them on ignore for a while.
I've been called a lefty, a righty and lots of nasty stuff besides but it improved once Keith tookover.
I will agree that a "new" poster started up a load of threads on some real right wing nonsense recently but like I said, ignore! | |
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| Enough is enough on 17:26 - Apr 30 with 3908 views | Kerouac |
| Enough is enough on 16:30 - Apr 30 by Treforys_Jack |
"As long as they are winning" grow up man, its a forum with faceless strangers for the most part. There is no winning or losing. |
If you were having threads deleted and posts removed I reckon you would feel that the censors are helping those complaining to “win”. | |
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| Enough is enough on 17:28 - Apr 30 with 3900 views | Kerouac |
Re: the prof’s views on certain subjects being supposedly untouchable because of his expertise and experience
All I will say is how many of you criticising American Police officers have served as a Police Officer?
Does OneHungLow get given the same reverence?
Think. | |
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| Enough is enough on 18:08 - Apr 30 with 3860 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Enough is enough on 17:28 - Apr 30 by Kerouac |
Re: the prof’s views on certain subjects being supposedly untouchable because of his expertise and experience
All I will say is how many of you criticising American Police officers have served as a Police Officer?
Does OneHungLow get given the same reverence?
Think. |
Never criticised American police officers as they seem to be in a no win situation especially when every disturbance or stop they attend has the potential to involve firearms. I have no love for the US of A and consider them very dangerous. No comment on OHL as I have him on ignore and you can draw your own conclusions on the reasons. | | | |
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