| Sleaze and cronyism 17:08 - Apr 23 with 6802 views | Nortbankboy |
When thieves fall out. |  | | |  |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 11:14 - Apr 24 with 1235 views | max936 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 11:10 - Apr 24 by Catullus |
After Cummings trips during the pandemic, and what he said, who believes he is suddenly worried about integrity? It was his job to advise the PM and Bojo is a big fat liar, how many times did old classic Dom advise Bojo to lie?
As for competence, again, it shows the levels of incompetence when someone like Cummings has the ear and the support of the UK Prime Minister. |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:05 - Apr 24 with 1196 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 11:14 - Apr 24 by max936 |
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It is a bit like the all out war between Labour's last two prime ministers. Blair and brown hated each other. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:37 - Apr 24 with 1179 views | onehunglow |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:05 - Apr 24 by felixstowe_jack |
It is a bit like the all out war between Labour's last two prime ministers. Blair and brown hated each other. |
Brown and Blair hatred was off the scale.
Both put personal ambition before the country.
The worse chancellor ,the prime minister who sent thousands to their deaths.
Labour are lagging well behind in the polls.
Why is that? | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:46 - Apr 24 with 1178 views | max936 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:05 - Apr 24 by felixstowe_jack |
It is a bit like the all out war between Labour's last two prime ministers. Blair and brown hated each other. |
Who mentioned any sides, its you dyed in the wool Tory's being paranoid AGIAN!! | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:51 - Apr 24 with 1175 views | Gwyn737 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:37 - Apr 24 by onehunglow |
Brown and Blair hatred was off the scale.
Both put personal ambition before the country.
The worse chancellor ,the prime minister who sent thousands to their deaths.
Labour are lagging well behind in the polls.
Why is that? |
A myriad of reasons but here’s my top 3.
1. The Corbyn experiment was incredibly damaging and will take an age to recover from.
2. Starmer has not up to now lived up to his promise
3. We live in the time of the selfish. Economic (small c) conservatism is rife among what would have been traditionally Labour voters. This makes Johnson and the Conservative party (and in some cases nationalism) very attractive. | | | |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:55 - Apr 24 with 1174 views | max936 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:51 - Apr 24 by Gwyn737 |
A myriad of reasons but here’s my top 3.
1. The Corbyn experiment was incredibly damaging and will take an age to recover from.
2. Starmer has not up to now lived up to his promise
3. We live in the time of the selfish. Economic (small c) conservatism is rife among what would have been traditionally Labour voters. This makes Johnson and the Conservative party (and in some cases nationalism) very attractive. |
Gwyn, I'll say it again, there's not a decent politician of any political party worth their salt in any form, if ever there was a need for a massive political shake up it's now. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:15 - Apr 24 with 1168 views | Gwyn737 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:55 - Apr 24 by max936 |
Gwyn, I'll say it again, there's not a decent politician of any political party worth their salt in any form, if ever there was a need for a massive political shake up it's now. |
Depressing, isn’t it?
The way things are I can’t understand committed party allegiance. What kind of state are we in when the best defence of a party is that the other one is worse 🤦ðŸ»â€â™‚ï¸ | | | |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:50 - Apr 24 with 1153 views | onehunglow |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:55 - Apr 24 by max936 |
Gwyn, I'll say it again, there's not a decent politician of any political party worth their salt in any form, if ever there was a need for a massive political shake up it's now. |
But it wasn't an experiment.Many saw Jezza as a true champion of the working class/disadvantaged and one all for the "ordinary "person in the street.
Sadly, people realise now Labour is now all about liberal tree huggers and anti police zealots in the likes of Brighton and other wealthy towns and cities.
Corbyn and his filth were utterly uninterested in south Wales or indeed anywhere outside London. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 20:13 - Apr 24 with 1142 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:15 - Apr 24 by Gwyn737 |
Depressing, isn’t it?
The way things are I can’t understand committed party allegiance. What kind of state are we in when the best defence of a party is that the other one is worse 🤦ðŸ»â€â™‚ï¸ |
Spot on.
Whataboutery is rife here. If the side you support is sh1t, deflect attention from that by pointing out that the other side is even more sh1t. Why people support political parties like football teams beats me. We’re stuck with our football teams but nobody has to stick by these scumbags on all sides. |  |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:35 - Apr 24 with 1122 views | max936 |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:50 - Apr 24 by onehunglow |
But it wasn't an experiment.Many saw Jezza as a true champion of the working class/disadvantaged and one all for the "ordinary "person in the street.
Sadly, people realise now Labour is now all about liberal tree huggers and anti police zealots in the likes of Brighton and other wealthy towns and cities.
Corbyn and his filth were utterly uninterested in south Wales or indeed anywhere outside London. |
Working class and disadvantaged, the pillock was and is a multi millionaire he couldn't give a monkeys toss, his main objective was to became PM and become important, another deluded Ahole.
Absolute joke of a politician. [Post edited 24 Apr 2021 21:36]
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 11:34 - Apr 25 with 1078 views | KeithHaynes |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 17:53 - Apr 23 by Joe_bradshaw |
Boris Johnson's ex-adviser Dominic Cummings denies leaking text messages of PM and Sir James Dyson, saying PM and his office fall “below standards of competence” |
Good OP, thing is Cummings has no allegiance at all. Be that the torys or labour, he is all about the highest bidder and self agenda. |  |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 07:25 - Apr 26 with 1044 views | Kilkennyjack |
Johnson no match for classic Dom.
Johnson must resign after this. Not fit for office on any level. |  |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 07:51 - Apr 26 with 1040 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 07:25 - Apr 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Johnson no match for classic Dom.
Johnson must resign after this. Not fit for office on any level. |
Why should a democratically elected leader resign? The voters will decide. Nothing like an embittered advisor who got the sack for thinking he was in charge. I am sure the newspapers are paying him well.
Wonder when the EU's unelected president and 27 commissioners will resign ovet the EU's bungling vaccine programme as case and deaths continue to rise in the EU.
Meanwhile Drakeford and Nicola are facing the voters . That is democracy for you. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 10:32 - Apr 26 with 1016 views | Catullus |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 07:51 - Apr 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Why should a democratically elected leader resign? The voters will decide. Nothing like an embittered advisor who got the sack for thinking he was in charge. I am sure the newspapers are paying him well.
Wonder when the EU's unelected president and 27 commissioners will resign ovet the EU's bungling vaccine programme as case and deaths continue to rise in the EU.
Meanwhile Drakeford and Nicola are facing the voters . That is democracy for you. |
Labour were as busy as the rest of us calling Cummings a liar after his Durham trip but now he's obviously a paragon of virtue, abeacon of integrity.
Cummings said he wssn't the source of a leak about the lockdown yet he;s happy to lean EVERYTHING now, do me a favour. This is some kind of revenge and Cummings wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on his deceitful arris.
It wouldn't surprise me if Bojo suddenly found the evidence that Cummings did break the covid rules and was the source of the leak. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 10:40 - Apr 26 with 1013 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 07:51 - Apr 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Why should a democratically elected leader resign? The voters will decide. Nothing like an embittered advisor who got the sack for thinking he was in charge. I am sure the newspapers are paying him well.
Wonder when the EU's unelected president and 27 commissioners will resign ovet the EU's bungling vaccine programme as case and deaths continue to rise in the EU.
Meanwhile Drakeford and Nicola are facing the voters . That is democracy for you. |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 10:51 - Apr 26 with 1009 views | Catullus |
A parody account is the best you can do?
Tell me Kilky, why are you such a big fan of Cummings these days? Why do you believe every word? You were his biggest critics when he broke the lockdown rules.
It's a hypothetical btw, we know the answer. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 11:37 - Apr 26 with 1002 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 10:51 - Apr 26 by Catullus |
A parody account is the best you can do?
Tell me Kilky, why are you such a big fan of Cummings these days? Why do you believe every word? You were his biggest critics when he broke the lockdown rules.
It's a hypothetical btw, we know the answer. |
The real world with Johnson is more unbelievable than any parody.
Piers is clear. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:27 - Apr 26 with 975 views | Kilkennyjack |
I will settle for the truth. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:30 - Apr 26 with 967 views | Catullus |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 18:27 - Apr 26 by Kilkennyjack |
I will settle for the truth. |
We'll never know th truth. Don't you pay attention. It's about what they can convince people to believe, the truth will have nothing to do with it. it's politics. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:18 - Apr 26 with 954 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 19:30 - Apr 26 by Catullus |
We'll never know th truth. Don't you pay attention. It's about what they can convince people to believe, the truth will have nothing to do with it. it's politics. |
Spoiler alert; rumour is that old classic Dom has a recording .... shhhhh ! | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:48 - Apr 26 with 943 views | Kilkennyjack |
‘Boris Johnson is isolated in Downing Street with no longstanding trusted aides and at risk of becoming “uncontrollable”, Tory sources have said after he allegedly personally briefed against Dominic Cummings following confirmation that the prime minister had to foot a £58,000 refurbishment bill’.
This is from the Guardian tonight.
The big baby created this media storm in a temper tantrum.
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:55 - Apr 26 with 938 views | majorraglan |
I don’t trust any of them nor do I trust the Daily Mail. That said, I think the Cummings is probably sharper than Johnson. Cummings is a bright guy, worked with politicians a long time, he’s a strategist, been around the block a few time, knows how to win and he’s probably savvy enough to have gathered evidence and insurance for that rainy day. In the face of a pandemic when tens of thousands could die and with a public potentially looking for justice, I’d have kept my records too - especially if it meant I could point the finger elsewhere. Boris on the other hand has charisma, but is alleged to be a chancer, a bit lazy and a bit of a liar, so it’s an interesting mix.
Being a cynic, I suspect it may all go quiet. A rich Tory benefactor will have a word with Cummings, tell him to keep his head down, deposit some loot in his bank account and they’ll all be happy. | | | |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:56 - Apr 26 with 937 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:48 - Apr 26 by Kilkennyjack |
‘Boris Johnson is isolated in Downing Street with no longstanding trusted aides and at risk of becoming “uncontrollable”, Tory sources have said after he allegedly personally briefed against Dominic Cummings following confirmation that the prime minister had to foot a £58,000 refurbishment bill’.
This is from the Guardian tonight.
The big baby created this media storm in a temper tantrum.
What a fanny. |
Never mind we live in a democracy the voters will change our MPs and government if they want to.
Meanwhile in the undemocratic EU the people cannot get rid of the unelected president and 27 commissioners. The should all be sacked for their incompetence in failing to order enough vaccines in time which is costing their citizens their lives. | |
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| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:59 - Apr 26 with 932 views | Professor |
| Sleaze and cronyism on 21:55 - Apr 26 by majorraglan |
I don’t trust any of them nor do I trust the Daily Mail. That said, I think the Cummings is probably sharper than Johnson. Cummings is a bright guy, worked with politicians a long time, he’s a strategist, been around the block a few time, knows how to win and he’s probably savvy enough to have gathered evidence and insurance for that rainy day. In the face of a pandemic when tens of thousands could die and with a public potentially looking for justice, I’d have kept my records too - especially if it meant I could point the finger elsewhere. Boris on the other hand has charisma, but is alleged to be a chancer, a bit lazy and a bit of a liar, so it’s an interesting mix.
Being a cynic, I suspect it may all go quiet. A rich Tory benefactor will have a word with Cummings, tell him to keep his head down, deposit some loot in his bank account and they’ll all be happy. |
Maybe not Raglan. It may be decided Johnson’s time is up. I don’t think his climate change proposals have hit fertile ground to say the least. One thing the Tory Party are very good at is knifing their leader in the back or front if they believe it reduces election chances. They like winning. | | | |
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