| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job 18:14 - Mar 29 with 4743 views | thornabyswan |
Looking like Bothroyd is about to get the boot.
Cooper and Jodey Morris head the FA shortlist according to reports. |  |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:17 - Mar 29 with 3559 views | KeithHaynes |
I’m not sure that’s a job share with the swans, has there been a precedent set ?
I wouldn’t be happy with him being with England and the swans, one or the other. |  |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:25 - Mar 29 with 3538 views | onehunglow |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:17 - Mar 29 by KeithHaynes |
I’m not sure that’s a job share with the swans, has there been a precedent set ?
I wouldn’t be happy with him being with England and the swans, one or the other. |
I'm not happy with him really England or not | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:29 - Mar 29 with 3534 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:25 - Mar 29 by onehunglow |
I'm not happy with him really England or not |
Never 😂 | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:55 - Mar 29 with 3513 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Let's hope he gets it. |  |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:56 - Mar 29 with 3509 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Would be a silly career move on his part imo. |  | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:02 - Mar 29 with 3497 views | 9MilesHigh |
Amzing news, let's pray it's true and Cooper would be mad to turn it down and we'd be insane to stand in his way.
Tra. |  | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:04 - Mar 29 with 3493 views | thornabyswan |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 18:56 - Mar 29 by 34dfgdf54 |
Would be a silly career move on his part imo. |
Would he be allowed to do both jobs I wouldn't been keen on us job sharing. | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:06 - Mar 29 with 3485 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:04 - Mar 29 by thornabyswan |
Would he be allowed to do both jobs I wouldn't been keen on us job sharing. |
No chance.
One job - the England one. We'll find someone else.
Wagner. | | | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:08 - Mar 29 with 3482 views | thornabyswan |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:06 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
No chance.
One job - the England one. We'll find someone else.
Wagner. |
Whats he done apart from flukeing promotion with a minus goal difference. | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:16 - Mar 29 with 3471 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:08 - Mar 29 by thornabyswan |
Whats he done apart from flukeing promotion with a minus goal difference. |
Apart from the actual promotion of Huddersfield Town to the Premier League you mean and keeping them up there a season. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:27 - Mar 29 with 3459 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:08 - Mar 29 by thornabyswan |
Whats he done apart from flukeing promotion with a minus goal difference. |
A bit about Wagner's style and philosophy.
t's fair to say that David Wagner's tactics have caught the eye this season. He has transformed Huddersfield from 19th in the Championship to the playoff final and revitalised the whole club. It's hard not to like his positive manner and tactics.
Huddersfield's starting position is 4-2-3-1, that transitions into a 2-4-3-1 in attack, and a 4-4-1-1 in defence. Elias Kachunga and Rajiv van La Parra are more inside forwards than traditional wingers, supporting Nakhi Wells in the central areas of the pitch. Instead it is the full backs, Chris Löwe and Tommy Smith, who offer attacking width.
There is an emphasis on getting players into central areas of the pitch and for the whole team to play high up the pitch. This is shown by Huddersfield having just 25% of game time in their own half. That is a joint lowest with Derby and Fulham in the Championship, and is big contrast to the Championship high of 34% that Reading have.
One of the first things you'll notice about Huddersfield is their pressing game. Playing high up the pitch squeezes the game and means the Huddersfield players are in close proximity to opposition players.
They have less ground to make up when closing and pressing the opposition after losing possession. Their shape allows them to outnumber the two centre backs that teams usually play in the Championship, whilst still covering the central areas when players do push forward to press.
This forces the opposition centre backs to either go long or to pass wide to their full backs. The latter is often a trigger for Huddersfield to press even more aggressively.
Style on the ball
So far, like most articles looking at Huddersfield's tactics, we've focused on their impressive pressing game. Whilst it is eye catching, concentrating on it too much would ignore the fact that The Terriers' spend more time with the ball than without.
Over the regular Championship season, only Fulham (59.1%) and Reading (57.4%) enjoyed more possession than Huddersfield's average 55.7%. The number of passes Huddersfield (495.7) and Reading (496.7) average per game is almost identical.
The big differences lie in the number of accurate long balls and inaccurate short balls. Reading averaged the most accurate long balls per game (46.7) in the league compared to Huddersfield's 32.4. The Royals also averaged the least inaccurate short balls per game (53.6) whilst Huddersfield's average was the fourth highest in the Championship (65.7).
Lots of numbers, but what do they mean? Well, as already highlighted, Huddersfield play most of the game high up the pitch meaning they have less need for long balls.
They also play at a high tempo, which not surprisingly means they make more errors. They often look for one-twos and a key aspect of their games is players running into attack from deep. Huddersfield score a lot of their goals from through balls or low crosses. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:35 - Mar 29 with 3449 views | thornabyswan |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:16 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Apart from the actual promotion of Huddersfield Town to the Premier League you mean and keeping them up there a season. |
Yes got them promoted via the play offs with a minus goal difference.
Kept them there for a season at our expense after Carlos lost his bottle. | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:49 - Mar 29 with 3434 views | Boundy |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:16 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Apart from the actual promotion of Huddersfield Town to the Premier League you mean and keeping them up there a season. |
Well Monk manged to keep us so that's not really an endorsement. | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:57 - Mar 29 with 3432 views | vetchonian |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:02 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Amzing news, let's pray it's true and Cooper would be mad to turn it down and we'd be insane to stand in his way.
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you have a problem with Cooper.. but i think you and many more need to refer to our season inder Martinez in the championship when we returned.
our first goal in the Championship came from a long ball kver the top.
we scored goals from penalties and free kicks...remember Jordi Gomez...we also struggled a fair bit.....rescueing a few games at rhe death when being 1 down.....but nostalgia is great ....Cooper is getting lots of jndeserved critiscm.....go backand rread the reports of the games....we wernt as clever in front of goal or so attacking as we make out.
we were on a roll enjoying our return to the 2nd tier after nearly falling out of the league.
given the talent we had then...Scotland,Gomez,Bodde,Pratley,Gower,Britton,comoare that to oyd current respurces...so many on here talk crap..we had 2 performances with possesion yet we lost....lost a few games under Martinez too
and peoplecwant Wagner.... | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 20:07 - Mar 29 with 3425 views | vetchonian |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:16 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Apart from the actual promotion of Huddersfield Town to the Premier League you mean and keeping them up there a season. |
If Carlos hadn't cocked up they would have gone down..and Wagner hasn't set the world alight since
On 29 May 2017, Huddersfield secured promotion to the Premier League for the 2017—18 season, following a victory on penalties in the play-off final against Reading.[19][20] On 30 June 2017, Wagner signed an improved two-year contract. [21] He was praised for his achievements in keeping Huddersfield in the Premier League at the end of the 2017—18 season, a feat regarded by bookmakers as improbable and described by The Guardian as "the Premier League's greatest survival story", with Wagner in particular noted as "a leader of rare charisma and intelligence."[22]
On 14 January 2019, Wagner and Huddersfield Town agreed to terminate his contract by mutual consent, with the team in last place and eight points from safety.[23]
Schalke 04 Edit
On 9 May 2019, Wagner was appointed as manager of Bundesliga club Schalke 04 on a three-year contract until 30 June 2022.[24] In the second half of the 2019—20 season, Schalke set a new club record of 16 league games without a win between 25 January and 27 June 2020.[25] The winless streak continued with an 0—8 defeat against Bayern Munich in the first match of the 2020—21 season.[26] After a 1—3 defeat against Werder Bremen, the 18th winless league match in a row, Wagner was sacked on 27 September 2020.[27] | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 20:34 - Mar 29 with 3400 views | thornabyswan |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:49 - Mar 29 by Boundy |
Well Monk manged to keep us so that's not really an endorsement. |
So did Clement even less endorsement. | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:04 - Mar 29 with 3369 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:35 - Mar 29 by thornabyswan |
Yes got them promoted via the play offs with a minus goal difference.
Kept them there for a season at our expense after Carlos lost his bottle. |
Our budget this season positively makes us Lord of the Manor compared to Wagner's un 16/17
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:05 - Mar 29 with 3366 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:04 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Our budget this season positively makes us Lord of the Manor compared to Wagner's un 16/17
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:10 - Mar 29 with 3358 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:49 - Mar 29 by Boundy |
Well Monk manged to keep us so that's not really an endorsement. |
Monk kept a team of superstars up compared to Wagner's lot.
There's the endorsement.
It's a non-comparable. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:18 - Mar 29 with 3349 views | vetchonian |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:10 - Mar 29 by 9MilesHigh |
Monk kept a team of superstars up compared to Wagner's lot.
There's the endorsement.
It's a non-comparable. |
but Wagner was sacked in January 2019 after some dismal results and was hardly a sucees in his net role.
why would we want to lose a manager who 2 seasons running has us vying for promotion....and cut the style crap revisit Martinez results in the champioship....not hugely better than ours this season despite a better squad and it we didnt always score from open play either...and there wete several 1-1 games where in fact we rescued a point near the end...often from a set piece....nostalgia eh.
advocating the appointment of Wagner given his record says it all | |
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| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:21 - Mar 29 with 3344 views | majorraglan |
Not sure Wagner is the answer, he had a terrible record at Schalke, but then again I am not sure who I’d go for. I’d like to return to the footballing style that graced the Liberty a few years ago. I’d like to see that playing style replicated through out the club at all levels, kind of having a philosophy and style that permeates though the club and players can mv3 seamlessly between the levels. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:21 - Mar 29 with 3343 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 19:57 - Mar 29 by vetchonian |
you have a problem with Cooper.. but i think you and many more need to refer to our season inder Martinez in the championship when we returned.
our first goal in the Championship came from a long ball kver the top.
we scored goals from penalties and free kicks...remember Jordi Gomez...we also struggled a fair bit.....rescueing a few games at rhe death when being 1 down.....but nostalgia is great ....Cooper is getting lots of jndeserved critiscm.....go backand rread the reports of the games....we wernt as clever in front of goal or so attacking as we make out.
we were on a roll enjoying our return to the 2nd tier after nearly falling out of the league.
given the talent we had then...Scotland,Gomez,Bodde,Pratley,Gower,Britton,comoare that to oyd current respurces...so many on here talk crap..we had 2 performances with possesion yet we lost....lost a few games under Martinez too
and peoplecwant Wagner.... |
I don't like Cooper, I've got no qualms about it, it's not a revelation to me when you type it out.
But your sickly fawning over him is nauseous and your memory failing.
Our first goal in the Championship was against Forest at home. A 3-1 win. Here's Sky Sports' take on it...
"After an open start to the game, Swans midfielder Britton collected the ball on the right and skipped past two challenges before cutting inside and unleashing a fizzing drive toward goal. Britton's effort beat keeper Smith's despairing dive but not the post. The ball deflected back off the upright only to hit the hapless Smith on the back of the head and roll over the line. The hosts played the sort of flowing one-touch football that saw them finish 10 points clear of Forest as League One champions last term."
and the link - https://www.skysports.com/football/swansea-city-vs-nottingham-forest/1955 (Stylish Swans down Forest)
but what's worse and un-forgivable is fans like you trying to rubbish Martinez in Cooper's defence. Sit down man.
No one would care a monkey's chuff for a long ball over the top goal or a bloody free kick.
And no one should EVER even mention Martinez' name in the same breath as Cooper.
And yes, I want Wagner - any day of the week.
But for while Cooper is here, I want the Swans to do well. But I can't warm to him and his dire football and I don't think it's sustainable. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 21:29 - Mar 29 with 3338 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 20:07 - Mar 29 by vetchonian |
If Carlos hadn't cocked up they would have gone down..and Wagner hasn't set the world alight since
On 29 May 2017, Huddersfield secured promotion to the Premier League for the 2017—18 season, following a victory on penalties in the play-off final against Reading.[19][20] On 30 June 2017, Wagner signed an improved two-year contract. [21] He was praised for his achievements in keeping Huddersfield in the Premier League at the end of the 2017—18 season, a feat regarded by bookmakers as improbable and described by The Guardian as "the Premier League's greatest survival story", with Wagner in particular noted as "a leader of rare charisma and intelligence."[22]
On 14 January 2019, Wagner and Huddersfield Town agreed to terminate his contract by mutual consent, with the team in last place and eight points from safety.[23]
Schalke 04 Edit
On 9 May 2019, Wagner was appointed as manager of Bundesliga club Schalke 04 on a three-year contract until 30 June 2022.[24] In the second half of the 2019—20 season, Schalke set a new club record of 16 league games without a win between 25 January and 27 June 2020.[25] The winless streak continued with an 0—8 defeat against Bayern Munich in the first match of the 2020—21 season.[26] After a 1—3 defeat against Werder Bremen, the 18th winless league match in a row, Wagner was sacked on 27 September 2020.[27] |
And you are also hopelessly guilty of repeating snippets you hear, probably on here, of lazy reporting without any real context.
Schalke was a mess, before Wagner and calamitously since... Read...
Three days later (after the sacking of Wagner), Manuel Baum was nominated as Wagner's successor, with Naldo, a former Schalke player, as assistant coach. Baum, who had taken over from Wagner at a winless streak of 18 games, was unable to win a single Bundesliga game between the 3rd and 12th match days, and was dismissed ahead of the 13th match day against Arminia Bielefeld.
Huub Stevens once again returned as head coach, beginning his fourth tenure. Baum's tenure had brought the winless streak up from 18 to 28 Bundesliga games, bringing Schalke to the brink of breaking the alltime record of 31 winless games, set by SC Tasmania 1900 Berlin in the 1965—66 season. Stevens did not change Schalke's fortunes in his first game, losing the home game against Arminia Bielefeld, themselves in 16th place and thus threatened by relegation, with a 0—1 scoreline.
On 27 December 2020, Schalke 04 announced that they signed a contract with Swiss manager Christian Gross to be the head coach of the club until the end of the season, making him the fourth head coach for Schalke 04 during the 2020—21 season. Under Gross, Schalke's negative streak continued with a 3—0 loss to Hertha BSC, marking the 30th consecutive winless game, a losing streak of 358 days. On 9 January 2021 Schalke finally recorded a victory over 1899 Hoffenheim, which meant they avoided matching Tasmania Berlin's record. It remained Schalke's only victory under Gross, who was sacked as head coach after just eleven matches on 28 February 2021, following losses against rival Borussia Dortmund (0—4) and VFB Stuttgart (1—5). Alongside Gross, sporting director Jochen Schneider, team coordinator Sascha Riether, assistant coach Rainer Widmayer and fitness coach Werner Leuthard were also relieved of their duties. At 0.45 average points per game, Gross was the least successful head coach on Schalke since Karl-Heinz Marotzke in 1967.
On 2 March 2021, Dimitrios Grammozis was announced as new head coach for Schalke 04. Grammozis started with a scoreless draw against Mainz 05, but his team was unable to collect any points in the two following matches, which were lost 5—0 against VfL Wolfsburg and 3—0 against Borussia Mönchengladbach. Schalke did not score a goal in the first three matches under Grammozis, a joined negative record for the club (Helmut Schulte in 1992/93 and Markus Weinzierl in 2016—17 also waited for the first goal until their fourth match as head coach for Schalke). Against Borussia Mönchengladbach, Schalke conceded its fifth own goal of the season, yet another negative record.
Wagner wasn't the problem at Huddersfield or Schalke and would be a dream compared to the one trick pony we've got boring us to death every Saturday. | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 22:00 - Mar 29 with 3301 views | 34dfgdf54 |
<< but what's worse and un-forgivable is fans like you trying to rubbish Martinez in Cooper's defence. Sit down man.
No one would care a monkey's chuff for a long ball over the top goal or a bloody free kick.
And no one should EVER even mention Martinez' name in the same breath as Cooper. >>
Amen to that | | | |
| Cooper on shortlist for England U21 job on 22:19 - Mar 29 with 3285 views | BillyChong |
Wagner spent a fortune at Huddersfield. Not sure he fits the bill in that respect. | | | |
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