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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread Cardiff fans surface 😂 09:20 - Mar 15 with 16044 viewsNotLoyal

We thought an extra few days leading up to Cardiff City’s least important fixture of the season would give everyone enough time to used this boring and insignificant championship game.




This fixture is so not a thing it’s a non thing with added non thingness. The game Cardiff can’t win, no matter how hard they try has become a non event in their own minds, and those supporters who still follow that team. It’s odd, because had they had the slightest bit of success we have no doubt it would be the most important game of the season for them. Strange psyche’.



We have heard of the big fixture against Bristol City, which is never a big fixture, they just pretend it is so when they lose to the swans they can give the impression this game doesn’t really matter that much. But the scruffs are not fooling us. Their amateur dramatic books reference this fixture more than any other, the fantasists from east Wales where theIr support for their team is matched, or even bigger for Swansea is another problem for them. Their once solid areas of support pre 1950 have crumbled with a new vibrant and young support, far outdoing the baldy fraternity of sixty plus year olds, smelling of stale beer and talking about 1927 and a game against Real Madrid. This Matchday thread will show everyone just who is Wales premier football team, facts and stats and all.

Swansea City record against Cardiff
First off the initial question to impose any superiority on another side, who has won the most games ?

Games won: 29
Games drawn: 18
Games lost: 22


Swansea City as expected lead this table which includes Autoglass trophy, Freight Rover trophy, Sherpa vans trophy, FA cup and league games. If you remove all the cup ties the swans still come out on top. Done. 1-0 the Jacks



Premier league record
Cardiff City have played two seasons in the premier league. They were relegated both times. Over 78 league games they won 17 and lost 46, they drew only 15. Cardiff lost in a major trophy final in 2012. Oh dear.

Swansea City, the first Welsh side to play in the premier league have played seven straight seasons. Playing 266 games they won 82 and drew 66. Highest finish was 8th winning a major trophy at Wembley.

The all time premier league table shows Swansea City in 28th and Cardiff at 44th out of 49 clubs to have played in the premier league. Oh dear. Done 2-0 the Jacks.

28th Swansea City 266 82 66 118 306 383 -77

44th Cardiff City 76 17 13 46 66 143 -77

So, in the top division in English football, the swans canter home well ahead. So how about major European competitions this century that people who are alive can remember, not dead ones ?

Okay dead ones as well.

1927 FA Cup Final Winners Cardiff City In front of the smallest ever crowd at Wembley stadium, boosted by thousands of swans fans supporting a welsh team on the day. It wasn’t until 1981 that a lower attendance was recorded. We only mention this due to Cardiff City fans desire to mention large supports, which as we will see doesn’t really have any substance.

2013 League Cup Final Winners Swansea City. The swans sold 48,572 tickets for this final having beaten Liverpool and Chelsea over two legs to get to the final. Both are fantastic achievements, however nobody remembers 1927 as much as they don’t remember Barnsley’s two FA Cup final victories a few years before. However when that’s all you have to cling on to then I suppose its a thing.

How about In cup competitions over the last 20 years ? This is when the real test of support is an issue, when fans have to spend their hard earned coin and season tickets are not valid. Those games that are not attractive, the Colchester’s and Notts County’s etc. Well, let’s not even go there, Cardiff City on occasion in recent years haven’t even mustered 2,500 home supporters for some cup games, the swans average in excess of 16,000.

The real truth

But it isn’t about statistics alone, social media is a huge thing these days. It’s where the bright young people talk, communicate and in some cases run their lives. That’s both good and bad, but it is what it is.

Swans Official on the social media Twitter platform have in excess of one million followers via 60k tweets. Very decent.



Cardiff City Official have an admirable 354k ish followers from nearly the same amount of tweets. Hang on ? I thought ... Oh well, a lot of those Cardiff fans are all in their mid sixties now, balding and computer illiterate. Or is it just as we all know the youngsters are the future, soaking up the valley towns and turning them white. We know you know the truth.



The game



Kick off 5.30pm
Liberty Stadium
Swansea

LIVE ON SKY
TALK SPORT 2

Match OfficialS
PAUL TIERNEY
Simon Long and James Mainwaring
Fourth Official : Michael Salisbury


Paul Tierney, we find it hard to criticise him, he will give the swans a penalty




Swansea City will make football history this weekend 19th Mar 2021 11:20
It’s the eve of the South Wales derby, the biggest fixture in Welsh football, the hardest ninety minutes of any game these players will be involved in this season both mentally and physically. The coolest minds, the most collective mindsets, the ability of each player, the belief in themselves and the desire to win for a whole city are the qualities required. And Swansea City have them all. In abundance. 0




Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Conor Hourihane, Jake Bidwell; Morgan Whittaker, Andre Ayew.

Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Ryan Manning, Ben Cabango, Joel Latibeaudiere, Korey Smith, Yan Dhanda, Jamal Lowe, Wayne Routledge, Ollie Cooper.

Cardiff City: Dillon Phillips; Sean Morrison (captain), Aden Flint, Ciaron Brown; Thomas Sang, Leandro Bacuna, Joe Ralls, Will Vaulks, Marlon Pack; Harry Wilson; Kieffer Moore.

Substitutes: Alex Smithies, Josh Murphy, Jonny Williams, Max Watters, Sheyi Ojo, Mark Harris, Junior Hoilett, Rubin Colwill, Sam Bowen.






[Post edited 20 Mar 2021 20:59]

OK I've changed it.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:09 - Mar 20 with 1132 viewsshingle

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 17:48 - Mar 20 by jackrabbit

Don’t think anybody can pin that one on Woody, for once.


True, only need to do that when he deserves it, which is quite often.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:10 - Mar 20 with 1111 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:09 - Mar 20 by shingle

True, only need to do that when he deserves it, which is quite often.


He might have come for the throw in .

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:10 - Mar 20 with 1121 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:09 - Mar 20 by onehunglow

Whittaker wants to shoot.No many others do.
The window was Steve's chance to get a striker in.

Again,he failed .


I want to shoot too, doesn’t mean I should play.

I don’t think he has much of a say in permanent recruitment, he made it clear he wanted a striker, they have him Morris.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:11 - Mar 20 with 1103 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:10 - Mar 20 by Dr_Parnassus

I want to shoot too, doesn’t mean I should play.

I don’t think he has much of a say in permanent recruitment, he made it clear he wanted a striker, they have him Morris.
[Post edited 20 Mar 2021 18:12]


I know who Id like to shoot

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:13 - Mar 20 with 1088 viewsDr_Parnassus

What on earth is Woodman doing?

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:14 - Mar 20 with 1083 viewsChief

Yea this is with Whittaker now....

Huge clamour to get him in, but completely anonymous and not even doing the stuff Lowe does while off form and without the ball.

Not his fault, not Cooper's fault, purely the perils of management and team selection.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:14 - Mar 20 with 1081 viewsnantywatcher

Wood man is Rubbish
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:14 - Mar 20 with 1071 viewsonehunglow

Just go away Woody.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:16 - Mar 20 with 1058 viewsBadlands

Which was more laughable, Woodman's pass or our national team's main striker's first touch and finish?

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:16 - Mar 20 with 1049 viewsDr_Parnassus

Need to bring Cabango and Lowe back on at half time.

And hope people knock this rotation nonsense on the head and realise the realities of our squad.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:16 - Mar 20 with 1045 viewsshingle

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:09 - Mar 20 by shingle

True, only need to do that when he deserves it, which is quite often.


And now Woodman deserves it normal service resumed, not a good keeper is he.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:17 - Mar 20 with 1040 viewsLittleEnglandJack

That's it, I'm now officially of the opinion that Woodman has to be dropped. We need to send him the message that he can't keep doing things like that and expect to play every week.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:17 - Mar 20 with 1035 viewsbuilthjack

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:10 - Mar 20 by Dr_Parnassus

I want to shoot too, doesn’t mean I should play.

I don’t think he has much of a say in permanent recruitment, he made it clear he wanted a striker, they have him Morris.
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He wanted a £2m striker. The owners knocked a nought off.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:18 - Mar 20 with 1015 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:16 - Mar 20 by Badlands

Which was more laughable, Woodman's pass or our national team's main striker's first touch and finish?


It's simply shaming both country and our club.

Woodman is simply not even funny now;his fans long since .

It is appalling to see this chap in goal for us.

Every game,it;s either stupidity or cowardice or both.

Still,it's all down to the coach

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:19 - Mar 20 with 1011 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:17 - Mar 20 by builthjack

He wanted a £2m striker. The owners knocked a nought off.


Indeed. He is one for the future as he said, he will come good I’m sure but he doesn’t have the physique as it stands.

Getting knocked off the ball at the slightest of nudges.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:19 - Mar 20 with 1006 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

He can't go a game without passing the ball to the opposition. Incredibly he keeps getting away with it. Unbelievable.

Eventually the majority will realise he's a very poor goalkeeper at this level and has had a negative effect on our season as a whole.

Too many buy into the nonsense spouted by commentators. Listening to these idiots from Sky claim that's rare? That's the third time in the last three games!

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:21 - Mar 20 with 986 viewsjasper_T

Would love Ayew to be dropped for a few games to see how much we improve.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:22 - Mar 20 with 953 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:19 - Mar 20 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

He can't go a game without passing the ball to the opposition. Incredibly he keeps getting away with it. Unbelievable.

Eventually the majority will realise he's a very poor goalkeeper at this level and has had a negative effect on our season as a whole.

Too many buy into the nonsense spouted by commentators. Listening to these idiots from Sky claim that's rare? That's the third time in the last three games!


Its sickening dwight. Let's not mince words. It is simply a case of fan feeling sorry for this pitiful goalkeeper.He cannot be selected again but he will.
It all starts with him.

Every time he goes near the ball ,hearts are on mouths.Fact.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:22 - Mar 20 with 958 viewsKeithHaynes

It’s frustrating (again)

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:23 - Mar 20 with 945 viewsnantywatcher

Happy enough with how we finished that half. Whittaker looks the business.
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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:23 - Mar 20 with 944 viewsBadlands

Cardiff happy for us to have the ball and lump balls into our 5’ and fart forwards.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:24 - Mar 20 with 920 viewsChief

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:14 - Mar 20 by Chief

Yea this is with Whittaker now....

Huge clamour to get him in, but completely anonymous and not even doing the stuff Lowe does while off form and without the ball.

Not his fault, not Cooper's fault, purely the perils of management and team selection.


Nice run from Whittaker at the end had Morrison backing off.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:25 - Mar 20 with 901 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:22 - Mar 20 by KeithHaynes

It’s frustrating (again)


No Keith,it's gut wrenchingly pitiful
We are unravelling at a rate of knots.
We have been for a while
We ,especially Steve ,are hanging on hoping to crawl into the play offs and keep his stock high.When he fails-as he will,he will be off,with ky saying he has been
unlucky
no funds
injuries
blah blah
all baloney

We are regressing and need to stop it.

We need to replace super steve

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:27 - Mar 20 with 875 viewsFlashberryjack

Could be worst I suppose, and it probably will.

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Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:28 - Mar 20 with 856 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Swansea City v Cardiff City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 18:22 - Mar 20 by onehunglow

Its sickening dwight. Let's not mince words. It is simply a case of fan feeling sorry for this pitiful goalkeeper.He cannot be selected again but he will.
It all starts with him.

Every time he goes near the ball ,hearts are on mouths.Fact.


Dumb people who are either incapable of or refuse to think for themselves read and listen to soundbites and automatically believe it to be true.

"18 clean sheets, he's amazing!"

No. The defence was incredible (prior to the arrival of Hourihane) and Woodman was carried to that incredible number of clean sheets. He's been making mistakes all season, passing the ball into touch all season, refusing to close down attackers all season.

Absolutely nothing has changed for the better or worse. He's been woeful all season. He was below average last season, albeit with fewer individual errors.

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