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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! 20:47 - Dec 26 with 10324 viewsNotLoyal


Swansea City v Reading
Liberty Stadium
EFL Championship
Wednesday 30th December 2020
Kick Off 8pm


Match Officials
DAVID WEBB


Craig Taylor and Richard Wild
Fourth Official : Lee Swabey


TV

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SWANS TV FROM 7.50PM



What do we know about Reading FC ?
Monty Don isn’t a Reading supporter, for those that don’t know Monty, ( most people who use that moniker are very cowardly) he is a gardener, but not really because he only grows weeds and when nobody is looking he glues flowers on them. Then he says ‘ ohhhh look what I’ve done, I’m a gardener’ He mainly scoops up loads of compost, which is basically shit, and puts it in different places, in fact he does this so often you would have thought he was a Cardiff fan, he can’t be though because his hair is too curly and he is too tall.


Monty Don with his dog, who is possibly dead, but not in this picture.

Ayrton Senna was born in Reading, he lived there until he won some racing competitions in a car. Senna was born in a house in Chelsea Close, Reading and only sold it when he was about eleven years old to buy a new car. In those days he was known as Brian or Knobhead ( to his mum)

Proof Ayrton Senna is from Reading.

Reading is the only village in the Englands to be called a town, that’s quite a feat. Also just outside Reading is Broadmoor hospital where the more bloody frightening folk in the country are sent when they scare the shit out of people or kill them, whichever comes first. Not everyone who is sent to Broadmoor is dangerous, although that’s a qualification for most people to get in to the building. A little known fact is the ‘Silent Twins’ from West Wales were sent there after they set fire to a lot of the town of Haverfordwest. Their names were June and Jennifer Gibbons. One is now dead and the other lives in Haverfordwest where the sale of fire extinguishers shot up on her return home.

In the last thirteen games played between Swansea City and Reading the Swans haven’t lost any games, winning eight and drawing five. Swansea have scored twenty four goals in those games winning two of them 4-1 away.


Marc knows the score : Reading Pre Match 30th Dec 2020 06:54
Marc Guehi speaks about his transition from a Chelsea youngster to realistically being the first name on the team sheet at Swansea. Make no mistake this is a player who knows his own mind. 0





Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Ben Cabango, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.

Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Viktor Gyokeres, Wayne Routledge, Yan Dhanda, Joel Latibeaudiere, Oli Cooper, Jordon Garrick, Kasey Palmer.

Reading: Rafael Cabral, Tomas Esteves, Michael Morrison (captain), Tom McIntyre, Michael Olise, Andy Rinomhota, Sam Baldock, Ovie Ejaria, Josh Laurent, Tom Holmes, Alfa Semedo.

Substitutes: Luke Southwood, Omar Richards, John Swift, Sone Aluko, Nahum Melvin-Lambert, Tennai Watson, Ryan East, Jeriel Dorsett.

Referee: David Webb





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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 TEAM NEWS on 01:59 - Dec 31 with 1359 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 TEAM NEWS on 23:48 - Dec 30 by swancity

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The man of the match was their keeper with some fine saves and if Andre had been on form it would have been a comfortable win for us. We played really well & deserved the three points but as we all know you don’t always get what you thoroughly deserve

Re the subs: The lack of real quality options illustrates the fact that our squad isn’t as strong ( in depth ) as some think. Palmer was terrible tonight and Gyökeres looks ponderous always doesn’t he.

But you keep having a side swipe at Cooper. Whatever floats your boat. 👍


I thought it was an excellent performance that didn’t get the three points it warranted. Palmer didn’t play well tonight - would have been better to use Dhanda while we were on top as he may have carved an opening or scored himself.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:31 - Dec 31 with 1240 viewstylagarwjack

We could have won that game and the keeper did pull off some good saves, but none that you wouldn’t expect him to make, I think Guehi’s was the best chance.

I think the team selection in the first place was the issue, we have played Smith, Grimes and Fulton together before but usually in away games, to do it in a home game against a Reading side that has been in reasonable but not blistering form recently, has conceded a fair number of goals, and that was missing a few likely starters, was overly cautious IMO and it showed, we played well in terms of fluency but could have done with a creative spark, which the likes of Dhanda would have been more likely to provide. I don’t think Cooper can complain too much about the result really.

In terms of the Palmer comments, yes, he wasn’t great, but he hasn’t had a lot of game time recently, so as with most players, he is probably the type that you see the best of when he is playing regularly, as he definitely didn’t look sharp last night. Yes there is a chicken and egg element to that though as someone who isn’t playing well isn’t likely to get game time etc, Gyorkeres is in the same boat at the moment.
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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:36 - Dec 31 with 1220 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:31 - Dec 31 by tylagarwjack

We could have won that game and the keeper did pull off some good saves, but none that you wouldn’t expect him to make, I think Guehi’s was the best chance.

I think the team selection in the first place was the issue, we have played Smith, Grimes and Fulton together before but usually in away games, to do it in a home game against a Reading side that has been in reasonable but not blistering form recently, has conceded a fair number of goals, and that was missing a few likely starters, was overly cautious IMO and it showed, we played well in terms of fluency but could have done with a creative spark, which the likes of Dhanda would have been more likely to provide. I don’t think Cooper can complain too much about the result really.

In terms of the Palmer comments, yes, he wasn’t great, but he hasn’t had a lot of game time recently, so as with most players, he is probably the type that you see the best of when he is playing regularly, as he definitely didn’t look sharp last night. Yes there is a chicken and egg element to that though as someone who isn’t playing well isn’t likely to get game time etc, Gyorkeres is in the same boat at the moment.
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I think to be fair we created tons , our finishing spark was missing not the creative one. We dominated a fellow top 6 contender almost completely (with 9 men behind the ball a lot of the time) and created chance after chance. If one of those had gone in they would have to have come out to try and get the point and we would have ruthlessly finished them off.

Let’s take the positives from a great effort all round and move on to Watford.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:39 - Dec 31 with 1216 views34dfgdf54

Going to be completely honest, I think our performance is being exaggerated in a big way. That was a Reading side without three quarters of their goals in the team, plus other starters. They didn’t come to play, they came to survive and made it easy for us on the ball.

If you take the first 7 games out, they have the leakiest defence in the football league and we just didn’t have the creativity or finishing to put to sword. Make no bones about it, Norwich, Brentford, Bournemouth and others vying for play off spots would of won that today.

I don’t rate Palmer or Vik, I had doubts from the start but the lack of imagination and rotation from Cooper has left us short big time in the final third, you can’t expect players to be having 10 minutes every other week and expect them to perform.

Yan, Palmer, Vik, Cullen, Garrick and Manning should of all had considerably more game time than they have done.

Not enough goals and no plan b. Said on twitter it’s a crazy comment due to where we are in the league, but something doesn’t sit well with me under this manager, it’s a god awful league and we have had luck with our players staying fit as of now, false position imo
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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:36 - Dec 31 by Brynmill_Jack

I think to be fair we created tons , our finishing spark was missing not the creative one. We dominated a fellow top 6 contender almost completely (with 9 men behind the ball a lot of the time) and created chance after chance. If one of those had gone in they would have to have come out to try and get the point and we would have ruthlessly finished them off.

Let’s take the positives from a great effort all round and move on to Watford.


I can’t honestly say that we created a clear cut chance, apart from Guehi’s, maybe Ayew’s header but apart from that, not really, and can’t help feeling that Dhanda starting, or failing that Cooper changing it far earlier than he did, say half time, would have potentially enabled us to create (even more, if the view is that we did create a lot) more chances.

I think, ultimately, Cooper paid Reading too much respect.

However, what’s done is done, let’s move on, but we could well see more of the same against Watford, maybe more justifiably, as Watford are a better team than Reading probably, but if we want to continue challenging at the very top then there will be more pressure on us to win that game now, the kind of which that would have been alleviated to a degree by winning last night, in what was probably the easier of the two games.
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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:39 - Dec 31 by 34dfgdf54

Going to be completely honest, I think our performance is being exaggerated in a big way. That was a Reading side without three quarters of their goals in the team, plus other starters. They didn’t come to play, they came to survive and made it easy for us on the ball.

If you take the first 7 games out, they have the leakiest defence in the football league and we just didn’t have the creativity or finishing to put to sword. Make no bones about it, Norwich, Brentford, Bournemouth and others vying for play off spots would of won that today.

I don’t rate Palmer or Vik, I had doubts from the start but the lack of imagination and rotation from Cooper has left us short big time in the final third, you can’t expect players to be having 10 minutes every other week and expect them to perform.

Yan, Palmer, Vik, Cullen, Garrick and Manning should of all had considerably more game time than they have done.

Not enough goals and no plan b. Said on twitter it’s a crazy comment due to where we are in the league, but something doesn’t sit well with me under this manager, it’s a god awful league and we have had luck with our players staying fit as of now, false position imo
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Very honet appraisal.

Last night felt like a defeat ;the look on Cooper's face and that of the players told as much.

We screwed up a great chance to consolidate.

The players certainly didnt lack for effort but why AGAIN just give VG 5 minutes. This is not fair and poor player management.

You can be as positive as you like but we can do better and this league really is terrible standard.

Finally,I got rather upset when then the commentators reminded us we had spent 2m and received 50 Million. Now,how big was that black hole and how did it get so big.

This is THE great question we should be asking not how rich jenkins became after flogging the club to the owners we are lumbered with.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 10:13 - Dec 31 with 1183 viewsBrynmill_Jack

I hope some of the glasses on here revert to being at least half full this evening 😆

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 10:17 - Dec 31 with 1179 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 09:39 - Dec 31 by 34dfgdf54

Going to be completely honest, I think our performance is being exaggerated in a big way. That was a Reading side without three quarters of their goals in the team, plus other starters. They didn’t come to play, they came to survive and made it easy for us on the ball.

If you take the first 7 games out, they have the leakiest defence in the football league and we just didn’t have the creativity or finishing to put to sword. Make no bones about it, Norwich, Brentford, Bournemouth and others vying for play off spots would of won that today.

I don’t rate Palmer or Vik, I had doubts from the start but the lack of imagination and rotation from Cooper has left us short big time in the final third, you can’t expect players to be having 10 minutes every other week and expect them to perform.

Yan, Palmer, Vik, Cullen, Garrick and Manning should of all had considerably more game time than they have done.

Not enough goals and no plan b. Said on twitter it’s a crazy comment due to where we are in the league, but something doesn’t sit well with me under this manager, it’s a god awful league and we have had luck with our players staying fit as of now, false position imo
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Exactly. If they’d have had their full team out and not been so defensive we may have scored 2 or 3 with all the extra space afforded us.

And yet we did create good chances. I thought it was a great performance personally but that’s only my opinion. They could have complained if they lost 2 or 3 nil and will be ecstatic with a point.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 10:44 - Dec 31 with 1148 views34dfgdf54

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 10:17 - Dec 31 by Brynmill_Jack

Exactly. If they’d have had their full team out and not been so defensive we may have scored 2 or 3 with all the extra space afforded us.

And yet we did create good chances. I thought it was a great performance personally but that’s only my opinion. They could have complained if they lost 2 or 3 nil and will be ecstatic with a point.


We did have space though, everywhere.

They were a poor side.
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We did have space though, everywhere.

They were a poor side.


We dragged them out of position a lot yes. Not an easy feat against such a defensive mindset. I think it’s best left to me thinking we played particularly well and others who don’t thinking just that.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 11:05 - Dec 31 with 1112 viewsonehunglow

All the players gave their all and cannot be faulted ,however, we are or should be ambitious to get to the Prem and last night we again failed to kill off a team.
It is disappointing,no matter how one portrays it.

Bennett going off is also a worry as we lack height -as we have done -for many seasons. I dont understand why we collect small players.

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We did have space though, everywhere.

They were a poor side.


They weren’t and aren’t a poor side

But we made them look just that. Let’s be fair that was a 2-0 or 3-0 game nine times out of ten.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 11:09 - Dec 31 with 1103 viewsonehunglow

What is encouraging is Lowe stepping up to the plate.

We do though miss a full on striker and maybe Vic was supposed to be that player.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 11:06 - Dec 31 by swancity

They weren’t and aren’t a poor side

But we made them look just that. Let’s be fair that was a 2-0 or 3-0 game nine times out of ten.


I thought we played very well and strangely I felt better about this 0-0 draw than I did after the last home game when we won 2-0! That’s probably because we actually passed the ball last night and didn’t just hoof it up the pitch. The improved, but not perfect, quality of the playing surface was the difference I’d say. Don’t get me wrong, I was gutted we didn’t win - we deserved to - but we looked like a top of the table side at times last night, even if we couldn’t score and that was my consolation. We were in good company - Liverpool dominated their game and also couldn’t score!
I was sorry not to see Dhanda included- I have a lot of regard for Yan. And I was impressed by young Latibaudiere - quite something to have a back line all 20 years old. He looks classy.
Onward and upward.
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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 11:06 - Dec 31 by swancity

They weren’t and aren’t a poor side

But we made them look just that. Let’s be fair that was a 2-0 or 3-0 game nine times out of ten.


They were a poor side, as we would be if we we had Lowe, Ayew and Grimes missing plus others.
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I thought we played very well and strangely I felt better about this 0-0 draw than I did after the last home game when we won 2-0! That’s probably because we actually passed the ball last night and didn’t just hoof it up the pitch. The improved, but not perfect, quality of the playing surface was the difference I’d say. Don’t get me wrong, I was gutted we didn’t win - we deserved to - but we looked like a top of the table side at times last night, even if we couldn’t score and that was my consolation. We were in good company - Liverpool dominated their game and also couldn’t score!
I was sorry not to see Dhanda included- I have a lot of regard for Yan. And I was impressed by young Latibaudiere - quite something to have a back line all 20 years old. He looks classy.
Onward and upward.


Yes that’s a very good summary

Agree with that

Dhanda is the type of player who might have unlocked the door but he’s blowing hot and cold isn’t he. He’s got the ability but needs to more consistent. And Fulton did very well in a more advanced role. Very well, surprisingly as I don’t or didn’t see him as a creative player.

Of course Reading had two of three out. But they’ve spent a lot of money with a big squad and will be pushing for a top six place all season. I really enjoyed that last night 👏

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 16:57 - Dec 31 with 935 viewsNotLoyal

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 16:39 - Dec 31 by swancity

Yes that’s a very good summary

Agree with that

Dhanda is the type of player who might have unlocked the door but he’s blowing hot and cold isn’t he. He’s got the ability but needs to more consistent. And Fulton did very well in a more advanced role. Very well, surprisingly as I don’t or didn’t see him as a creative player.

Of course Reading had two of three out. But they’ve spent a lot of money with a big squad and will be pushing for a top six place all season. I really enjoyed that last night 👏


Fulton is fast becoming hot property for sure.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 21:59 - Dec 31 with 837 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 16:57 - Dec 31 by NotLoyal

Fulton is fast becoming hot property for sure.


Hitting his best ever form for us right now. Looking imperious at times and a vital part of a very well balanced midfield 3. Long May it continue.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 21:59 - Dec 31 by Brynmill_Jack

Hitting his best ever form for us right now. Looking imperious at times and a vital part of a very well balanced midfield 3. Long May it continue.


Yes, hes starting to play well, he was imo our best player last night, he plays better in an advanced role supporting the wing backs and the two forwards.
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Yes, hes starting to play well, he was imo our best player last night, he plays better in an advanced role supporting the wing backs and the two forwards.


His quick interchanges with Smith , grimes and the wing backs are making us look a good attacking side all of a sudden. And whilst he’s no Tommy Smith he definitely can mix it if needs be.

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It would be interesting to compare this with expected goals against.

It's the difference between the two which is critical
We know we are a little short on goal scoring but we are very mean at the other end

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And despite that we’re +13 on goal difference, the third best record in the championship.

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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 10:26 - Jan 1 by Brynmill_Jack

And despite that we’re +13 on goal difference, the third best record in the championship.


Jasper can correct me if I’m wrong. But that’s from the Xg from the game against Reading only.
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Swansea City v Reading : Matchday Thread 30th Dec 2020 THE AFTERMATH ! on 14:22 - Jan 1 by 34dfgdf54

Jasper can correct me if I’m wrong. But that’s from the Xg from the game against Reading only.


Sorry mate didn’t realise

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