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Cardiff City v Swansea City Leckwith ish. Saturday December 12th 2020 Kick off 12.30pm
Officials JOHN BROOKS Nick Greenhalgh and Akil Howson Fourth Official : Keith Stroud
TV : Swans TV & Sky Sports
It’s Welsh derby time, the real Welsh derby where by all accounts form counts for nothing. Over the years it’s apparent that the swans hold the kudos as Wales premier footballing team, no doubt. Compared to Cardiff who have spent two unsuccessful seasons in the premier league the swans have had a top ten finish, wowed the football world with their style of play, and won a major trophy. European campaigns are ‘foreign’ to Cardiff.
What is a Cardiff To be perfectly honest a Cardiff is a thing of joy, an ever evolving gift of failure and unhappiness, and joy for all swans fans. Having taken four points off them last season, quickly forgotten by the reds, or blues or whatever this fixture goes ahead without fans. It could prove a slight leveller for Cardiff not having that daft accent being screamed at them continuously for ninety minutes. To understand a Cardiff you have to understand that Barcelona, that pretty decent side in Spain have always aspired to be as big as the South Wales club. For years they have spoken of being the new Cardiff, their fan base requiring the whole of a country to follow them. You can quickly see where the issues are.
The people who dwell in this area are quite small, almost dwarf like which gives further insight in to their mindset. Being small people ( not land of the giants small ) that would be very odd, they have the desire to thrust their opinions on anyone who will listen. Which isn’t a lot of people. Before history started Cardiff was a village, about the same size as their home attendances for midweek games, a few hundred souls huddled together by a smelly river. They actually evolved from a river fish called a ‘Claaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder, this would later become the areas only claim to fame. This fish by all accounts lived in the river beds of Cardiff village fearing that locals would try and talk to them and do their heads in. Later, as sperm was invented and Cardiff people stopped eating it the fish became agile enough to leave their homes. They grew tin foil feet and developed a pastry based topping. Their insides were made of dried mud and lumps of brown jelly. The ‘Claaaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder without knee caps was born.
The ‘Claaaaaarkes’ pie, with an E. See the mud combination ?
The football club, which formed before Barcelona hence the connection Is often revered by people who aren’t too good at reading but enjoy fiction. There are a wealth of fictional tales of glory and success written by such wonderful names like Anus as an example. You will often find words in these books, well, sort of words which have been passed down the bottom feeder family tree. ‘Ninian Paaaaaaaark’ Road is a term often used by taxi drivers who recently passed their tests when driving was allowed in the area. About 2006. When they go to the bank they say ‘Baaaaaaaaarclays’ and their only well known figure is Frank Hennessy who invented eating and talking hence the dialect. Frank is dead now, but other people who sound like him often gather together and practice eating and talking in what sounds like a choking gurgle recently injected with hallucinating liquid or porridge.
The bottom feeder in illustration. This is Frank Hennessy’s father on a sunny day
The match Referee John Brooks Brookie as we know him, or Brooksy, Brooko, sometimes Johnny or Jonno, even JB, or the J Bro, J or Brookla to his mate Dave, is a referee. He lives in Leicester and hasn’t reffed a swans game this year, not season, year. He has reffed Cardiff twice and said after both games ‘What a pile of old garbage they are, I will make sure they lose the Welsh derby’ or words to that effect. He isn’t a referee with a lot of bad decisions made, unless you count in Cardiff who have never been happy with him in the past. And that doesn’t count. Because they are very small people which makes their brains even smaller than the average rat.
Brooks bonded to the game
Cardiff City players to look out for Tom Watson Born in 1903 Watson was a feature of the very recent FA cup game at Wembley. Now 117 years of age he has been used less and less in recent times but never say never. Cardiff fans know all about him, they talk about him a lot, and they love 1927 even more. It was so recent it makes sense to talk about it, nobody apart from Tom Watson is still alive from that day.
Here is Tom running about at Wembley, he could easily feature in Saturdays game as he is only 117 years of age. The low attendance that day, 91,000 was boosted by quite a few thousand football fans from Swansea, saving the blushes of Cardiff’s modern day support.
TEAM NEWS LATEST
What is the latest team news?
Cardiff are sweating on the fitness of summer signing Harry Wilson.
The Wales international was withdrawn during the Bluebirds' 2-1 win over Stoke City in midweek due to an arm injury.
And Neil Harris has admitted the problem could sideline the versatile attacker this weekend, although Wilson will be given until the day of the game to prove his availability.
Isaac Vassell (quad) and Jordi Osei-Tutu (hamstring) both remain sidelined while Lee Tomlin is not expected to be available until January at the earliest after undergoing groin surgery.
Swansea will once again be without Morgan Gibbs-White (foot) and George Byers (groin).
They also have concerns over Ryan Bennett and Marc Guehi ahead of the game in the Welsh capital.
Bennett has missed Swansea's last two games due to a hamstring issue while Guehi sat out the 0-0 draw with Bournemouth after taking a blow to the head in the Swans' 2-0 triumph over Luton Town.
Both defenders will be given every opportunity to prove their fitness ahead of the game at Cardiff City Stadium.
Managers Thoughts
Cardiff Manager Neil Harris:
“It’s a huge game. Bragging rights are at stake. It’s a massive game. I was watching some footage earlier of the game back in January. The stadium was packed, atmosphere was electric. Both clubs will miss the fans. It’s a great fixture in the football calendar, one of the biggest games of the season in the Championship.
“Fans will be missed but it doesn’t take away the importance of it.“
“We know the importance to the fan base.“
Harris was asked if he understood the importance of this game for the Cardiff fans,
“Course I do. It’s never lost on me.“
“In my playing career, they are the best games to play in.
“I know the importance to the fan base and that will certainly be mentioned in the changing room. It already has been.
“It’s not a joy for people in lockdown in the lead up to Christmas and they can’t watch their team. There’s been a hardship and we have an opportunity to put smiles on faces.“
Swansea manager Steve Cooper also spoke about the fans:
“It will be different in terms of the game and atmosphere,
“They were electric atmospheres last season, as anyone who was there will tell you, so we can’t shy away from it, it is different.
“That’s why you cannot compare with previous seasons or previous games.
“But is a game that means an awful lot to supporters, it’s one we really want to win and one we want to really commit to and attack.
“It is for the supporters. I want them to see a team working hard and giving their best because football is so important to so many people.
“It will be a perfect chance to give a bit back and we will be committing to that.”
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:21 - Dec 11 by Chief
My time frame hasn't changed. You won a fa cup back when no alive remembers, we've been infinitely more successful than Cardiff in the modern era with fantastic very fresh memories. Ha yes I'm sure having that second tier winners trophy provides some solace. Not that it amounts to anything more than what second place achieves - promotion. (doesn't even get a huge day out and celebration at Wembley like we had) Our 'mickey mouse' trophy gave us another Wembley pish up and a European tour. What happened with your championship trophy? 1. A bus parade to celebrate your first go at the top level in nearly 60 years. And your fans and players sang about us 2. Immediate relegation. Oh dear.
'We've been infinitely more successful than Cardiff in the modern era with fantastic very fresh memories'
I take it we're basing it on post 2011 then? I do understand, it's pretty much all you've got to give.
I guess the Euro tour would've been fun but pretty pointless. I remember the Valencia win was decent but then Napoli gave you a hiding... Valencia isn't quite Real Madrid but
The Champ trophy went straight in our cabinet (next to our FA Cup)
The mickey mouse trophy sits next to your league one winners trophy aye? Always second best ohh... and in the middle is the JP Trophy
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Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:45 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
'We've been infinitely more successful than Cardiff in the modern era with fantastic very fresh memories'
I take it we're basing it on post 2011 then? I do understand, it's pretty much all you've got to give.
I guess the Euro tour would've been fun but pretty pointless. I remember the Valencia win was decent but then Napoli gave you a hiding... Valencia isn't quite Real Madrid but
The Champ trophy went straight in our cabinet (next to our FA Cup)
The mickey mouse trophy sits next to your league one winners trophy aye? Always second best ohh... and in the middle is the JP Trophy
What a genuinely tactless specimen we have on our hands. Proof that if there is a divine creator, he's at least got a sense of humour.
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Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 15:02 - Dec 11 with 1958 views
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:45 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
'We've been infinitely more successful than Cardiff in the modern era with fantastic very fresh memories'
I take it we're basing it on post 2011 then? I do understand, it's pretty much all you've got to give.
I guess the Euro tour would've been fun but pretty pointless. I remember the Valencia win was decent but then Napoli gave you a hiding... Valencia isn't quite Real Madrid but
The Champ trophy went straight in our cabinet (next to our FA Cup)
The mickey mouse trophy sits next to your league one winners trophy aye? Always second best ohh... and in the middle is the JP Trophy
Hahahaha no European tour is pointless especially getting through the groups and giving Napoli a good go. You lot would have absolutely loved it. Your jealousy has driven you delusional.
Haha our European campaign was 'pointless', but beating Real Madrid (but losing the tie by the way) presumably wasn't!!!??
The JPT trophy that your team failed to win or come close to when you were eligible?? Haha you're good that you can invent these scenarios in your head where only your clubs achievements count for anything fair play
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:45 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
'We've been infinitely more successful than Cardiff in the modern era with fantastic very fresh memories'
I take it we're basing it on post 2011 then? I do understand, it's pretty much all you've got to give.
I guess the Euro tour would've been fun but pretty pointless. I remember the Valencia win was decent but then Napoli gave you a hiding... Valencia isn't quite Real Madrid but
The Champ trophy went straight in our cabinet (next to our FA Cup)
The mickey mouse trophy sits next to your league one winners trophy aye? Always second best ohh... and in the middle is the JP Trophy
I remember the Valencia win was decent but then Napoli gave you a hiding. Really?
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 15:02 - Dec 11 by Chief
Hahahaha no European tour is pointless especially getting through the groups and giving Napoli a good go. You lot would have absolutely loved it. Your jealousy has driven you delusional.
Haha our European campaign was 'pointless', but beating Real Madrid (but losing the tie by the way) presumably wasn't!!!??
The JPT trophy that your team failed to win or come close to when you were eligible?? Haha you're good that you can invent these scenarios in your head where only your clubs achievements count for anything fair play
Pretty pointless if you go out in the Round of 16? Maybe one day you'll get to the quarter finals or even the semi's!
The JPT hahahahah, don't make me laugh! We'll leave stuff like that for you and Lincoln to fight over.
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Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 15:42 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
Pretty pointless if you go out in the Round of 16? Maybe one day you'll get to the quarter finals or even the semi's!
The JPT hahahahah, don't make me laugh! We'll leave stuff like that for you and Lincoln to fight over.
Haha what a strange view of competitions. Cardiff have little prospect of getting far in any trophies this year. Are going to not bother because they'd consider it pointless!? Yea i bet when you were getting crowds of 4k at Ninian Park you're fans wouldn't have fancied winning it and having a trip to Wembley! More lies
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 16:22 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
hahahah, thankfully I wasn't able to go to that one.
I enjoyed Bellers' cracker? I think that was my favourite one
The JPT wouldn't have been taken seriously by anyone in Cardiff. Getting to at least the Champ was always the goal back then.
Haha what an overinflated view of yourselves. And of course completely unwarranted at the time with past glories well behind you. Languishing in the bottom division with pitiful crowds, you'd have lapped up any bit of success (even it is a trophy that in reality very few teams actually set out to win in the early rounds)
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 15:44 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
Conceding more than 2 is a bit of a hiding though? is it not? Doesn't matter how long you're in it for you dope... the final result matters
Remember you lot losing to Preston 6-0 and them pipping you the play offs on the last day of the season - not even on goal diiference but goals scored? That’s not a hammering - more of a complete sh*tting !
Bottlers!!!
Each time I go to Bedd - au........................
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Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 21:39 - Dec 11 with 1714 views
Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 15:44 - Dec 11 by CCFCTOM
Conceding more than 2 is a bit of a hiding though? is it not? Doesn't matter how long you're in it for you dope... the final result matters
Will you be saying that if you ever qualify for European football again?
If beating Real Madrid nearly 50 years ago is the best you've got, why bother?
Is losing to Napoli 3-1 worse than getting beaten 8-3 by Standard Liege or losing 3-1 to Admira Wacker...they're not even as famous as Accrington Stanley!
I suppose if you win today it won't matter unless you get promoted?
“It’s a huge game. Bragging rights are at stake. It’s a massive game. I was watching some footage earlier of the game back in January. The stadium was packed, atmosphere was electric. Both clubs will miss the fans. It’s a great fixture in the football calendar, one of the biggest games of the season in the Championship.
“Fans will be missed but it doesn’t take away the importance of it.“
“We know the importance to the fan base.“
Harris was asked if he understood the importance of this game for the Cardiff fans,
“Course I do. It’s never lost on me.“
“In my playing career, they are the best games to play in.
“I know the importance to the fan base and that will certainly be mentioned in the changing room. It already has been.
“It’s not a joy for people in lockdown in the lead up to Christmas and they can’t watch their team. There’s been a hardship and we have an opportunity to put smiles on faces.“
Swansea manager Steve Cooper also spoke about the fans:
“It will be different in terms of the game and atmosphere,
“They were electric atmospheres last season, as anyone who was there will tell you, so we can’t shy away from it, it is different.
“That’s why you cannot compare with previous seasons or previous games.
“But is a game that means an awful lot to supporters, it’s one we really want to win and one we want to really commit to and attack.
“It is for the supporters. I want them to see a team working hard and giving their best because football is so important to so many people.
“It will be a perfect chance to give a bit back and we will be committing to that.”
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Joel Latibeaudiere, Ben Cabango, Yan Dhanda, Kasey Palmer, Wayne Routledge, Viktor Gyokeres, Liam Cullen.
Cardiff City: Alex Smithies; Leandro Bacuna, Curtis Nelson, Sean Morrison (captain), Joe Bennett; Joe Ralls, Will Vaulks; Sheyi Ojo, Harry Wilson, Mark Harris; Kieffer Moore.
Substitutes: Dillon Phillips, Robert Glatzel, Josh Murphy, Filip Benkovic, Greg Cunningham, Gavin Whyte, Marlon Pack, Sol Bamba, Joel Bagan.
Referee: John Brooks
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Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Joel Latibeaudiere, Ben Cabango, Yan Dhanda, Kasey Palmer, Wayne Routledge, Viktor Gyokeres, Liam Cullen.
Cardiff City: Alex Smithies; Leandro Bacuna, Curtis Nelson, Sean Morrison (captain), Joe Bennett; Joe Ralls, Will Vaulks; Sheyi Ojo, Harry Wilson, Mark Harris; Kieffer Moore.
Substitutes: Dillon Phillips, Robert Glatzel, Josh Murphy, Filip Benkovic, Greg Cunningham, Gavin Whyte, Marlon Pack, Sol Bamba, Joel Bagan.
Referee: John Brooks
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2. Immediate relegation. Oh dear. 
