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Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:13 - Oct 7 by A_Fans_Dad
You forgot the "Green New Deal" which would bankcrupt the country. When will the "peaceful protests" end? Is she sorry for keeping people in prison too long?
Shapiro actually has posted 25 questions the Green New deal is on the list.
It will be funny to see them contradict each other.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:20 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus
Of course it’s a fact, the mayor of New York confirmed it.
6500 more aborted than born. The data is from the NYCHOH (department of health).
Don’t tell me you have to hear it on CNN or vanity fair before you believe it? It’s a huge huge problem. Especially in the black community.
Do you know much about Planned Parenthood and their financial gain for abortion and where they set up their clinics?
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Well if the Mayor of New York confirmed it you can provide the link?
I've posted links to Daily Mail articles before now as they contained their story and a link the the facts that they were repoerting. Without that it's "fake news".
I know nothing about "Planned Parenthood" other than I have heard the name.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:53 - Oct 7 with 1447 views
Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:42 - Oct 7 by DJack
Well if the Mayor of New York confirmed it you can provide the link?
I've posted links to Daily Mail articles before now as they contained their story and a link the the facts that they were repoerting. Without that it's "fake news".
I know nothing about "Planned Parenthood" other than I have heard the name.
That’s not the definition of fake news. Fake news is news that is inherently false, news without a link does not mean it’s fake news.
In order to fully understand the pushback in the Roe vs Wade subject you really need to understand the role of Planned Parenthood and their founding, profits and locations.
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In order to fully understand the pushback in the Roe vs Wade subject you really need to understand the role of Planned Parenthood and their founding, profits and locations.
OK...
so the pdf link in CNS News does not exist (anymore at least) and they are reportd as low on factual articles by mediabiasfactcheck
National review links to a 2010 CDC report which does not show your claim (and therefore cannot support nor deny it).
As I said earlier the Wallstreet Journal Opinion Piece is behind a paywall.
Another time I might look into your Planned Parenthood claims but I suspect that what I will find will be quite contradictory (dependent upon source) and therefore not something I will have the time (or patience) for currently.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 00:21 - Oct 8 with 1425 views
Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 00:13 - Oct 8 by DJack
OK...
so the pdf link in CNS News does not exist (anymore at least) and they are reportd as low on factual articles by mediabiasfactcheck
National review links to a 2010 CDC report which does not show your claim (and therefore cannot support nor deny it).
As I said earlier the Wallstreet Journal Opinion Piece is behind a paywall.
Another time I might look into your Planned Parenthood claims but I suspect that what I will find will be quite contradictory (dependent upon source) and therefore not something I will have the time (or patience) for currently.
So you don’t believe the widely recognised fact based on the Department of Health report?
Do you have any link at all disputing it? As it seems links are the currency in this exchange. I will be amazed if there is anyone else other than you disputing it to be honest.
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Do you have any link at all disputing it? As it seems links are the currency in this exchange. I will be amazed if there is anyone else other than you disputing it to be honest.
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I didn't say that at all, I merely asked for something to back up "what you heard"
You now have (even if it was 2013 it is a startling fact), thank you.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 00:34 - Oct 8 by DJack
I didn't say that at all, I merely asked for something to back up "what you heard"
You now have (even if it was 2013 it is a startling fact), thank you.
I did at the time, you just wouldn’t accept the sources even though they were clearly quoting the data from the Department of Health.
It was in 2013 because that is what brought to light the discussion as it was brought up in the Hillary Debates. Black abortion such as this has been an issue for decades and the data is clear and consistent on that.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 00:36 - Oct 8 by Dr_Parnassus
I did at the time, you just wouldn’t accept the sources even though they were clearly quoting the data from the Department of Health.
It was in 2013 because that is what brought to light the discussion as it was brought up in the Hillary Debates. Black abortion such as this has been an issue for decades and the data is clear and consistent on that.
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You are partly correct as they weren't "clearly quoting the data from the Department of Health" as the link no longer exists. This is also true for the Politifact article but they are rated high on factual reporting so I accepted this, as this is important in reporting.
Let's not ruin the conclusion of this exchange with ankle biting.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 00:44 - Oct 8 with 1398 views
Pence absolutely destroyed Kamala who comes across as one of the most unlikeable women, not just in politics but any public figure I can think of. No doubt CNN poll will side with Kamala as per usual, but if anyone thinks she won that then they need their heads read.
Seriously impressive from Pence, reduced Kamala to a flustered, smirking, mess.
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Moscow Mitch has the right idea so why doesn't Trump? This exemplifies the problem with Trump, it's all about him. He doesn't even listen to the most senior Republican...Why not???
"Speaking to reporters in Kentucky, Mr McConnell said he steered clear of the White House in the last two months "because my impression was their approach to how to handle this was different from mine".
He later also noted that he "personally didn't feel that they were approaching the protection from this illness" in the way he felt "was appropriate for the Senate"."
Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 16:24 - Oct 8 by A_Fans_Dad
According to a telemundo poll Pence only won 74% to 26%. A close run thing. The twitter poll has now been deleted, I can't think why.
Even that was an understatement. You would have had to have had a lobotomy to think anything else.
She was horrendous. Caught out lying and didn’t know what to do so just smirked and laughed, asked about packing the court and avoided the question like Biden did, for asked again and pulled the race card.
She is vile. Women don’t seem to like her, black community clearly doesn’t... who is her base? Last time she ran for President she saw a 14% backing slip to 5%. It’s not difficult to see why.
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