| This is awful too 12:31 - Jun 5 with 3447 views | Darran |
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| This is awful too on 12:42 - Jun 5 with 1822 views | Darran |
Disgusting.
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| This is awful too on 12:49 - Jun 5 with 1811 views | londonlisa2001 |
Darran, there are pictures and videos of all sorts of violent scumbags all over the Internet. White, black, doesn’t matter. They are complete thugs and should be prosecuted. We live in a violent, uncaring world.
Violence perpetrated by the very organisations whose job it is to protect us, is completely different.
Showing pictures of violence from one person to another person, whatever the colour of participants is utterly irrelevant when people are protesting about the terrifying behaviour of a police force that is completely out of control, behaving like deranged storm troopers rather than the public servants they are supposed to be.
The fact that there are awful black people doesn’t mean that the vast majority of black people should live in genuine fear of the police anymore than the fact that there are awful white people changes your right to have a police force you can trust if necessary.
It’s whataboutery at its absolute worst.
Edited to add - the second posting exactly demonstrates my point. It is terrifying at a completely different level. [Post edited 5 Jun 2020 12:50]
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| This is awful too on 12:51 - Jun 5 with 1796 views | dickythorpe |
It's very distressing to see these incidents.
What a messed up world. |  | | |
| This is awful too on 12:54 - Jun 5 with 1786 views | Darran |
| This is awful too on 12:49 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
Darran, there are pictures and videos of all sorts of violent scumbags all over the Internet. White, black, doesn’t matter. They are complete thugs and should be prosecuted. We live in a violent, uncaring world.
Violence perpetrated by the very organisations whose job it is to protect us, is completely different.
Showing pictures of violence from one person to another person, whatever the colour of participants is utterly irrelevant when people are protesting about the terrifying behaviour of a police force that is completely out of control, behaving like deranged storm troopers rather than the public servants they are supposed to be.
The fact that there are awful black people doesn’t mean that the vast majority of black people should live in genuine fear of the police anymore than the fact that there are awful white people changes your right to have a police force you can trust if necessary.
It’s whataboutery at its absolute worst.
Edited to add - the second posting exactly demonstrates my point. It is terrifying at a completely different level. [Post edited 5 Jun 2020 12:50]
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| This is awful too on 13:09 - Jun 5 with 1764 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 12:42 - Jun 5 by Darran |
Disgusting.
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Awful, but there is a difference.
They give a sh*t about him...they immediately call for medical help.
Also he wasn't minding his own business at a platform, he was part of a protest at a national building and was refusing to be moved on when a battalion of police were coming to move them on., he wasn't punched he was pushed whilst refusing to move for the police, he stumbled and fell, it was an accident.
The old man at the train station was minding his own business and is most likely dead now because a scumbag didn't like his t-shirt and viciously attacked him.
You can see the fear of the middle-aged white lady who tries to come to his aid, she doesn't know whether she will be next. That's what people are living with out there now.
What next?
If people want to cause anarchy on the streets? Don't be surprised when the guns come out to protect the public.
They will then say that this is racism and the start of a race war. The reality is that the police have a duty to protect the public from violent thugs.
Watch on as comfortable middle class types, many on this forum, make excuses for the thugs and condemn the police for doing their jobs. |  |
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| This is awful too on 13:12 - Jun 5 with 1754 views | LeonWasGod |
| This is awful too on 13:09 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
Awful, but there is a difference.
They give a sh*t about him...they immediately call for medical help.
Also he wasn't minding his own business at a platform, he was part of a protest at a national building and was refusing to be moved on when a battalion of police were coming to move them on., he wasn't punched he was pushed whilst refusing to move for the police, he stumbled and fell, it was an accident.
The old man at the train station was minding his own business and is most likely dead now because a scumbag didn't like his t-shirt and viciously attacked him.
You can see the fear of the middle-aged white lady who tries to come to his aid, she doesn't know whether she will be next. That's what people are living with out there now.
What next?
If people want to cause anarchy on the streets? Don't be surprised when the guns come out to protect the public.
They will then say that this is racism and the start of a race war. The reality is that the police have a duty to protect the public from violent thugs.
Watch on as comfortable middle class types, many on this forum, make excuses for the thugs and condemn the police for doing their jobs. |
Accident? 
You need to get of whatever sort of sites are telling you to spout this kind of rubbish. It's not a good look. |  | | |
| This is awful too on 13:15 - Jun 5 with 1743 views | NotLoyal |
| This is awful too on 13:12 - Jun 5 by LeonWasGod |
Accident?
You need to get of whatever sort of sites are telling you to spout this kind of rubbish. It's not a good look. |
I think ...
He / she meant he shouldn’t have been there. |  |
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| This is awful too on 13:18 - Jun 5 with 1737 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 13:12 - Jun 5 by LeonWasGod |
Accident?
You need to get of whatever sort of sites are telling you to spout this kind of rubbish. It's not a good look. |
Yes an accident.
The police are coming and instead of backing off he strides towards them to confront them, there is a gentle push...the kind of push that would never cause me to fall back and stumble, the person pushing couldn't have expected he'd stumble back 3/4 steps and fall over directly backwards splitting his head...it was an accident.
They then call for medical help.
Now watch the old black man in a Trump t-shirt being attacked. It is a vicious assault intended to cause maximum damage. He and his friends are filming it and then laugh about it, mocking him as he dies on the platform.
I'm sure you can't see the difference though because it is clear that you struggle with the concept of right and wrong.
It is also interesting that you express outrage at the police and don't comment on the plight of that poor old man. | |
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| This is awful too on 13:33 - Jun 5 with 1715 views | magicdaps10 |
Personally I find it all a bit contradictive that these clowns are lining the streets protesting that certain lives matter when there is a life threatening virus out there.
Surely all lives matter and these protests can wait until the time is safe and in the meantime the police or other groups could have training and guidelines in place on how to behave.
The world is a messed up place and too many people are taking advantage of the situation. |  |
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| This is awful too on 13:49 - Jun 5 with 1689 views | Lohengrin |
| This is awful too on 13:12 - Jun 5 by LeonWasGod |
Accident?
You need to get of whatever sort of sites are telling you to spout this kind of rubbish. It's not a good look. |
It’s not much of a push in fairness, is it? The area was ordered clear and he wasn’t budging. As force goes it was absolutely minimal.
Who’d want to be a copper, eh? We’re just about at the stage where they are ‘Nartzeez’ if they don’t volunteer to hold a burglar’s swag bag for him and offer a lift home afterward.  |  |
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| This is awful too on 14:04 - Jun 5 with 1660 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 13:49 - Jun 5 by Lohengrin |
It’s not much of a push in fairness, is it? The area was ordered clear and he wasn’t budging. As force goes it was absolutely minimal.
Who’d want to be a copper, eh? We’re just about at the stage where they are ‘Nartzeez’ if they don’t volunteer to hold a burglar’s swag bag for him and offer a lift home afterward. |
"behaving like deranged storm troopers "
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| This is awful too on 14:18 - Jun 5 with 1639 views | Humpty |
| This is awful too on 13:49 - Jun 5 by Lohengrin |
It’s not much of a push in fairness, is it? The area was ordered clear and he wasn’t budging. As force goes it was absolutely minimal.
Who’d want to be a copper, eh? We’re just about at the stage where they are ‘Nartzeez’ if they don’t volunteer to hold a burglar’s swag bag for him and offer a lift home afterward. |
I've read a report that said he was trying to return a policeman's helmet to the cops. He is holding one in the video. |  | | |
| This is awful too on 14:23 - Jun 5 with 1629 views | Lohengrin |
| This is awful too on 14:18 - Jun 5 by Humpty |
I've read a report that said he was trying to return a policeman's helmet to the cops. He is holding one in the video. |
If that turns out to be the case he’s obviously owed a big apology, Hump. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:28 - Jun 5 with 1613 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 14:18 - Jun 5 by Humpty |
I've read a report that said he was trying to return a policeman's helmet to the cops. He is holding one in the video. |
I think that neither you or I have any clue how he came by that police helmet and what exactly his intentions were...it is irrelevant anyway, the police were coming in force to remove him and his mates, they asked him to move and he should have moved. That's why he was pushed out of their way.
You are missing the 5mins + before the video starts for context.
The two videos on this thread are incomparable.
One video has been described as "irrelevant". The only sympathy coming from the usual crowd has gone to that man who stumbles. The only outrage has been expressed towards the police.
You do not understand right from wrong.
It is so sad. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:33 - Jun 5 with 1606 views | LeonWasGod |
| This is awful too on 13:49 - Jun 5 by Lohengrin |
It’s not much of a push in fairness, is it? The area was ordered clear and he wasn’t budging. As force goes it was absolutely minimal.
Who’d want to be a copper, eh? We’re just about at the stage where they are ‘Nartzeez’ if they don’t volunteer to hold a burglar’s swag bag for him and offer a lift home afterward. |
Totally indefensible imo. 75 year old bloke gone trustingly to them to ask something (possibly linked to that helmet?) and ends up in hospital with life threatening head injuries.
I'm amazed that people defend this. Genuinely amazed. | | | |
| This is awful too on 14:36 - Jun 5 with 1593 views | Catullus |
| This is awful too on 13:09 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
Awful, but there is a difference.
They give a sh*t about him...they immediately call for medical help.
Also he wasn't minding his own business at a platform, he was part of a protest at a national building and was refusing to be moved on when a battalion of police were coming to move them on., he wasn't punched he was pushed whilst refusing to move for the police, he stumbled and fell, it was an accident.
The old man at the train station was minding his own business and is most likely dead now because a scumbag didn't like his t-shirt and viciously attacked him.
You can see the fear of the middle-aged white lady who tries to come to his aid, she doesn't know whether she will be next. That's what people are living with out there now.
What next?
If people want to cause anarchy on the streets? Don't be surprised when the guns come out to protect the public.
They will then say that this is racism and the start of a race war. The reality is that the police have a duty to protect the public from violent thugs.
Watch on as comfortable middle class types, many on this forum, make excuses for the thugs and condemn the police for doing their jobs. |
What do you do though when the police have become the out of control thugs?
I've seen police behave like thugs at the football, I saw an elderly man (outside the Railway) not move quick enough for the polices' liking and get a baton smacked across the back of his legs causing him to fall and bang his head so needing medical attention. Rotherham, enough said. There's been others and watching these videos from the USA, how can anyone justify the police inflaming the situations they are meant to calm down.
Some of these police would be quite at home in a Brownshirt. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:36 - Jun 5 with 1592 views | londonlisa2001 |
| This is awful too on 13:49 - Jun 5 by Lohengrin |
It’s not much of a push in fairness, is it? The area was ordered clear and he wasn’t budging. As force goes it was absolutely minimal.
Who’d want to be a copper, eh? We’re just about at the stage where they are ‘Nartzeez’ if they don’t volunteer to hold a burglar’s swag bag for him and offer a lift home afterward. |
There is extensive footage from another angle which shows clearly he was returning a helmet.
The man is 73 years old and in a ‘serious’ condition.
The police thug has been suspended without pay. | | | |
| This is awful too on 14:41 - Jun 5 with 1581 views | LeonWasGod |
| This is awful too on 13:18 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
Yes an accident.
The police are coming and instead of backing off he strides towards them to confront them, there is a gentle push...the kind of push that would never cause me to fall back and stumble, the person pushing couldn't have expected he'd stumble back 3/4 steps and fall over directly backwards splitting his head...it was an accident.
They then call for medical help.
Now watch the old black man in a Trump t-shirt being attacked. It is a vicious assault intended to cause maximum damage. He and his friends are filming it and then laugh about it, mocking him as he dies on the platform.
I'm sure you can't see the difference though because it is clear that you struggle with the concept of right and wrong.
It is also interesting that you express outrage at the police and don't comment on the plight of that poor old man. |
You're starting to come across as a nasty piece of work, always looking to throw accusations at other people along some perverted, presumed left v right angle.
The top one is obviously in the wrong, it doesn't need a comment - it's wanton, cruel violence that is obviously wrong. There's no need to play them off against each other - both are wrong. | | | |
| This is awful too on 14:42 - Jun 5 with 1576 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 14:33 - Jun 5 by LeonWasGod |
Totally indefensible imo. 75 year old bloke gone trustingly to them to ask something (possibly linked to that helmet?) and ends up in hospital with life threatening head injuries.
I'm amazed that people defend this. Genuinely amazed. |
What happened to him was awful but it was an accident.
They weren't trying to injure him.
To make out they were is akin to telling lies such is the stretch of the truth we can all see in that video.
Still you make no comment about the other video.
The 75 yr old who goes and takes part in a protest that has been violent and has lasted days, and unfortunately for him ends up getting pushed and falling over is all that concerns you.
The 1st video demonstrates why we have got to the stage where government, the police and the army have to restore order...which is the only reason why the man in the 2nd video ever gets pushed. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:43 - Jun 5 with 1576 views | LeonWasGod |
| This is awful too on 14:36 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
There is extensive footage from another angle which shows clearly he was returning a helmet.
The man is 73 years old and in a ‘serious’ condition.
The police thug has been suspended without pay. |
You just don't know right from wrong apparently. Nether does his employer.
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| This is awful too on 14:43 - Jun 5 with 1570 views | Kerouac |
| This is awful too on 14:36 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
There is extensive footage from another angle which shows clearly he was returning a helmet.
The man is 73 years old and in a ‘serious’ condition.
The police thug has been suspended without pay. |
Let's hope when the posher bits of London get torn apart the police will be able to protect you and your property without ever committing the heinous crime of pushing anyone ay love. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:47 - Jun 5 with 1561 views | Kerouac |
The man in the 2nd video got immediate medical treatment, will recover, and the police officer who pushed him when he refused to get out of the way is suspended.
What an awful country hey.
Meanwhile thugs masquerading as protesters can kill an old man in a Trump t-shirt and it is apparently "irrelevant" compared to the nasty police behaving like "stormtroopers".
Too right you lot don't know right from wrong. | |
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| This is awful too on 14:54 - Jun 5 with 1557 views | londonlisa2001 |
| This is awful too on 14:43 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
Let's hope when the posher bits of London get torn apart the police will be able to protect you and your property without ever committing the heinous crime of pushing anyone ay love. |
That chip must be heavy as hell. | | | |
| This is awful too on 15:05 - Jun 5 with 1531 views | NeathJack |
| This is awful too on 14:42 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
What happened to him was awful but it was an accident.
They weren't trying to injure him.
To make out they were is akin to telling lies such is the stretch of the truth we can all see in that video.
Still you make no comment about the other video.
The 75 yr old who goes and takes part in a protest that has been violent and has lasted days, and unfortunately for him ends up getting pushed and falling over is all that concerns you.
The 1st video demonstrates why we have got to the stage where government, the police and the army have to restore order...which is the only reason why the man in the 2nd video ever gets pushed. |
When you recklessly push an old man to the floor, especially without good reason, the result is no accident. It's a direct consequence of your unnecessary actions. |  | | |
| This is awful too on 15:05 - Jun 5 with 1531 views | Highjack |
| This is awful too on 14:47 - Jun 5 by Kerouac |
The man in the 2nd video got immediate medical treatment, will recover, and the police officer who pushed him when he refused to get out of the way is suspended.
What an awful country hey.
Meanwhile thugs masquerading as protesters can kill an old man in a Trump t-shirt and it is apparently "irrelevant" compared to the nasty police behaving like "stormtroopers".
Too right you lot don't know right from wrong. |
That is a significant head injury. The blood/fluid immediately pouring from his ear despite the blow being to the back of his head suggests significant bleeding, potential perforation of the cranial meninges and loss of cerebrospinal fluid. You see a lot of this with road traffic accidents. The suggestion that he will recover is not guaranteed. |  |
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