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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... 11:06 - Jan 31 with 1631 viewstheloneranger

This week the LAST Battle of Britain 'Ace' pilot Paul Farnes died aged 101.

RIP ... Brave Warrior

There are now only 2 surviving members of "The Few" ... the 3,000 airmen who fought in The Battle of Britain - William Clark and John Hemingway, both aged 100.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 13:11 - Jan 31 with 1589 viewsCatullus

I wonder how many times, up in his Hurricane, he thought he wouldn't see his next birthday let alone his 101st.

RIP Mr Farnes, you've earned your peace.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 13:29 - Jan 31 with 1584 viewsdickythorpe

Absolutely fearless. RIP
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 14:23 - Jan 31 with 1569 viewscontroversial_jack

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 13:29 - Jan 31 by dickythorpe

Absolutely fearless. RIP


I don't think they were fearless, they were probably shitting themselves every time they went up, but they did it.
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 16:09 - Jan 31 with 1540 viewsLord_Bony

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 14:23 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

I don't think they were fearless, they were probably shitting themselves every time they went up, but they did it.


Any of us would. Let's not forget they were mostly kids, the average age was 20, about 1500 were killed on the allied side, the Germans,much more.

We will never forget, had we lost that battle the Nazis were ready to invade.


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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:12 - Jan 31 with 1513 viewscontroversial_jack

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 16:09 - Jan 31 by Lord_Bony

Any of us would. Let's not forget they were mostly kids, the average age was 20, about 1500 were killed on the allied side, the Germans,much more.

We will never forget, had we lost that battle the Nazis were ready to invade.



The Nazis would have had control of the skies, but the RN still had control of the seas, so any invasion would have been met by dozens of destroyers ready to blow them out of the water, but it would have been messy without control of the skies
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:21 - Jan 31 with 1506 viewsLohengrin

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:12 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

The Nazis would have had control of the skies, but the RN still had control of the seas, so any invasion would have been met by dozens of destroyers ready to blow them out of the water, but it would have been messy without control of the skies


I think the fate of The Prince of Wales and Repulse proved pretty conclusively the redundancy of sea power without air cover.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:24 - Jan 31 with 1500 viewsLord_Bony

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:12 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

The Nazis would have had control of the skies, but the RN still had control of the seas, so any invasion would have been met by dozens of destroyers ready to blow them out of the water, but it would have been messy without control of the skies


The Germans also had a Navy which would have mined the flanks.supported by the Luftwaffe. British ships would be easy targets as in Dunkirk, there were also Uboat packs under Donetz that could have been drawn in. There was about half million invaders ready to go.

Of course it's hypothetical and no-one can know the true outcome of Sea Lion but it would have been a close call.

Luckily for us Hitler lost all interest afterwards and turned east.for Operation Barbabrossa...the invasion of Russia, a bad decision that ultimately cost him the war.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:27 - Jan 31 with 1492 viewsLord_Bony

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:21 - Jan 31 by Lohengrin

I think the fate of The Prince of Wales and Repulse proved pretty conclusively the redundancy of sea power without air cover.


Absolutely, capital ships as well, they stood no chance against Japanese bombers.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 18:24 - Jan 31 with 1457 viewsdickythorpe

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 14:23 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

I don't think they were fearless, they were probably shitting themselves every time they went up, but they did it.


Read up on some of them contro, they loved it!!!
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 18:50 - Jan 31 with 1444 viewscontroversial_jack

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:21 - Jan 31 by Lohengrin

I think the fate of The Prince of Wales and Repulse proved pretty conclusively the redundancy of sea power without air cover.


The invasion fleet would have been in troop carrying barges and and would have been sitting ducks. The RN was extremely powerfull at this time and faster destroyers would have been difficult targets for the Luftwafe , but it's all conjecture as someone has mentioned.
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:16 - Jan 31 with 1403 viewsCatullus

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 17:21 - Jan 31 by Lohengrin

I think the fate of The Prince of Wales and Repulse proved pretty conclusively the redundancy of sea power without air cover.


Yep, the U boats and Stukas would have massacred our navy in the channel if we had no air cover.
The Germans feared the Spitfire (though the Hurrican was arguably more succesful) and without it and the Hurri things would have been very different I think.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:21 - Jan 31 with 1397 viewscontroversial_jack

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:16 - Jan 31 by Catullus

Yep, the U boats and Stukas would have massacred our navy in the channel if we had no air cover.
The Germans feared the Spitfire (though the Hurrican was arguably more succesful) and without it and the Hurri things would have been very different I think.


The channel is too narrow for u boats, they would have been easily detected and mined
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:40 - Jan 31 with 1385 viewsCatullus

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:21 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack

The channel is too narrow for u boats, they would have been easily detected and mined


The RN ships would have to have sailed to the channel, the U boats would be sitting there just waiting.
The fast destroyers could not possibly outrun a Stuka, the very fastest detroyer coud do roughly 45 knots (51mph) but a Stuka had a top speed of 255mph, FW's and Messerschmitts were much faster again (FW over 400mph) besides which, without aircover the Germans would have bombed our navy to death first.
The U boats would have covered the North sea and Atlantic sea lanes, the Kriegsgsmarine would have provided close escort and the Luftwaffe would have attacked the coastal batteries and any RN ships.
Air superiority was a vital factor.

Edit, the channel isn't too narrow but it is too shallow.
[Post edited 31 Jan 2020 21:41]

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:56 - Jan 31 with 1373 viewscontroversial_jack

Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 21:40 - Jan 31 by Catullus

The RN ships would have to have sailed to the channel, the U boats would be sitting there just waiting.
The fast destroyers could not possibly outrun a Stuka, the very fastest detroyer coud do roughly 45 knots (51mph) but a Stuka had a top speed of 255mph, FW's and Messerschmitts were much faster again (FW over 400mph) besides which, without aircover the Germans would have bombed our navy to death first.
The U boats would have covered the North sea and Atlantic sea lanes, the Kriegsgsmarine would have provided close escort and the Luftwaffe would have attacked the coastal batteries and any RN ships.
Air superiority was a vital factor.

Edit, the channel isn't too narrow but it is too shallow.
[Post edited 31 Jan 2020 21:41]


Before any invasion, there would have been a massive build up of troops barges and equipment Mines and RN would be there in no time. The U boats were terrified of destroyers and Corvetes and didn't seek confrontation with them at all.The RN also had anti aircraft ships and so did the shore batteries. There would have been mass sinkings i agree,but any troop carriers would have been sunk with relative ease. Even if we had lost the battle for air superiority, we would still have had sufficient aircraft and more coming off the factory lines to enable any invasion to be prevented. Thankfully we never found out
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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 23:22 - Jan 31 with 1355 viewsDr_Winston

The whole point of the Battle of Britain was so Germany could gain the air superiority they needed to counteract the Royal Navy. They knew they wouldn't have had a chance without it.

If they'd achieved that then with their proven airpower there's little the RN could have done to stymie an invasion attempt.

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Last Battle of Britain 'ace' pilot Paul Farnes dies ... on 23:34 - Jan 31 with 1351 viewsSTID2017

RIP
We owe our freedom to the likes of this gentleman.
A true hero

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