| Man of the match kelly 14:30 - Jan 18 with 20089 views | southbrookstreet |
Well done kelly |  | | |  |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:31 - Jan 19 with 2117 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:23 - Jan 19 by paulparker |
I don’t know this forum wasn’t around then
But when you went to games did you tell your mates how crap ready was and point out he was a mistake ready to happen |
Of course.
But not after a win and for the 28th time. |  | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:42 - Jan 19 with 2086 views | paulparker |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:31 - Jan 19 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Of course.
But not after a win and for the 28th time. |
Your not getting it Baz
I didn’t come out and say brilliant result oh and by the way lumley is Sh1t
I was talking as if I was like any other fan after in the pub in saying that if lumley had played I don’t think he would have saved the pen and we would have gone on to most likely lose
That’s an opinion on a football message board about the back up keeper
I’ve also come out and said lumley has cost us points and said he has been playing crap I don’t think what I’ve said has been OTT or not justified because he has been our worse player this season |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Man of the match kelly on 10:48 - Jan 19 with 2070 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:42 - Jan 19 by paulparker |
Your not getting it Baz
I didn’t come out and say brilliant result oh and by the way lumley is Sh1t
I was talking as if I was like any other fan after in the pub in saying that if lumley had played I don’t think he would have saved the pen and we would have gone on to most likely lose
That’s an opinion on a football message board about the back up keeper
I’ve also come out and said lumley has cost us points and said he has been playing crap I don’t think what I’ve said has been OTT or not justified because he has been our worse player this season |
‘I didn’t come out and say brilliant result oh and by the way lumley is Sh1t’
That is exactly what you did in so many words! And again it’s not about criticism of Lumley or anyone else, it’s the continual slow torture of doing it over and over again in the hope that eventually everyone will come to be as angry about him as you are.
Take a look through your comments since that Bristol game in August and you’ll see how much time and effort you have spent.
Let’s leave it there because I’m starting to do the same thing. | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:51 - Jan 19 with 2065 views | DejR_vu |
In fairness Lumley has been struggling for a while and it’s only been in the last few weeks that patience has worn thin. Up until then there were a few grumbles but most were defending him. I think the dam burst after Cardiff and the chatter got louder, and then louder again when he kept his place. Having been replaced it’s only natural for a comparison to be made between the two. Given Kelly had a good game and did something first time that Lumley’s failed to do on about a dozen occasions, and something it could reasonably be argued won us points when the criticism of Lumley has been that he’s been costing us goals/points, I think it’s natural that the view on Kelly is going to be positive and consequently it’s not going to be great for Lumley. That doesn’t mean by expressing that view you’re hammering Lumley though. | |
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| Man of the match kelly on 11:26 - Jan 19 with 2036 views | Ralf85 |
Before the game, we saw the team choice. As soon as we saw Kelly's name on the sheet we relaxed and looked forward to the game. We knew that he could make intelligent decisions. He made several important saves. In addition he knew when to come off his goal line to assist his defence. Fingers crossed he remains in goal for us.  | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:31 - Jan 19 with 2017 views | francisbowles |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:26 - Jan 19 by Ralf85 |
Before the game, we saw the team choice. As soon as we saw Kelly's name on the sheet we relaxed and looked forward to the game. We knew that he could make intelligent decisions. He made several important saves. In addition he knew when to come off his goal line to assist his defence. Fingers crossed he remains in goal for us. |
Did he? My one criticism of him would be the time he came out very far and left what should have been a very simple lob for Bamford.
He did play very well though and scored a good few points against his critics who had written off after hardly seeing him play. | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:37 - Jan 19 with 2005 views | paulparker |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:48 - Jan 19 by BazzaInTheLoft |
‘I didn’t come out and say brilliant result oh and by the way lumley is Sh1t’
That is exactly what you did in so many words! And again it’s not about criticism of Lumley or anyone else, it’s the continual slow torture of doing it over and over again in the hope that eventually everyone will come to be as angry about him as you are.
Take a look through your comments since that Bristol game in August and you’ll see how much time and effort you have spent.
Let’s leave it there because I’m starting to do the same thing. |
I’m not angry about him ,i just think he is crap and have joined in the conversation about him, anyway don’t you think it’s a bit rich talking about time and effort on threads you have hijacked pretty much most threads on this board ever since the election we can’t move for pie charts and “statistics “ your on a crusade to disagree with everyone so your right let’s leave it there
I’m off for a family walk and a couple of pints
Have a good day | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Man of the match kelly on 11:48 - Jan 19 with 1981 views | Nov77 |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:31 - Jan 19 by francisbowles |
Did he? My one criticism of him would be the time he came out very far and left what should have been a very simple lob for Bamford.
He did play very well though and scored a good few points against his critics who had written off after hardly seeing him play. |
Was going to make the same point, if Bamford had finished that easy chance people would have been saying what the hell was he doing out there?
Also, gave the ref a decision to make by getting too close to Bamford and allowing him to DIVE and con the ref.
Made up for it though with an excellent save.
Not convinced he’s the answer long term but better than Lumley at the moment. |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 11:52 - Jan 19 with 1972 views | distortR |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:31 - Jan 19 by francisbowles |
Did he? My one criticism of him would be the time he came out very far and left what should have been a very simple lob for Bamford.
He did play very well though and scored a good few points against his critics who had written off after hardly seeing him play. |
kelly coming so far off his line when Bamford was through - couldn't work out if it was dodgy keeping or a plan to rush a player out of form. | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:06 - Jan 19 with 1930 views | MedwayR |
Kelly has been quick off his line in his other games too, clearly a tactic to close the angle and rush the opposition. Works well most of the time but he’ll get caught out eventually. |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 12:15 - Jan 19 with 1917 views | johncharles |
| Man of the match kelly on 10:51 - Jan 19 by DejR_vu |
In fairness Lumley has been struggling for a while and it’s only been in the last few weeks that patience has worn thin. Up until then there were a few grumbles but most were defending him. I think the dam burst after Cardiff and the chatter got louder, and then louder again when he kept his place. Having been replaced it’s only natural for a comparison to be made between the two. Given Kelly had a good game and did something first time that Lumley’s failed to do on about a dozen occasions, and something it could reasonably be argued won us points when the criticism of Lumley has been that he’s been costing us goals/points, I think it’s natural that the view on Kelly is going to be positive and consequently it’s not going to be great for Lumley. That doesn’t mean by expressing that view you’re hammering Lumley though. |
Far too reasonable and even handed for this thread |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 12:18 - Jan 19 with 1908 views | rsonist |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:48 - Jan 19 by Nov77 |
Was going to make the same point, if Bamford had finished that easy chance people would have been saying what the hell was he doing out there?
Also, gave the ref a decision to make by getting too close to Bamford and allowing him to DIVE and con the ref.
Made up for it though with an excellent save.
Not convinced he’s the answer long term but better than Lumley at the moment. |
Spot on. |  | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:21 - Jan 19 with 1902 views | johncharles |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:06 - Jan 19 by MedwayR |
Kelly has been quick off his line in his other games too, clearly a tactic to close the angle and rush the opposition. Works well most of the time but he’ll get caught out eventually. |
Your every silver lining has a cloud 😢 | |
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| Man of the match kelly on 12:30 - Jan 19 with 1881 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:06 - Jan 19 by MedwayR |
Kelly has been quick off his line in his other games too, clearly a tactic to close the angle and rush the opposition. Works well most of the time but he’ll get caught out eventually. |
Definitely better than staying rooted to the line most of the time like his predecessor though. |  | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:56 - Jan 19 with 1856 views | terryb |
I did laugh when I saw the "original" in the sixties.
It was St John who scored from the rebound then! | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 14:27 - Jan 19 with 1814 views | derbyhoop |
Devil's advocate.
Kelly wasn't MOM for me.
Yes, he saved a penalty. That he gave away.
The only other times I can recall was kicking one away with his feet from Bamford in the 1st half, and the long ranger from Phillips that he needed 2 grabs to hold.
The 2 CBs deserved it more. Masterson v sold and Hall immense - especially 2nd half. |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 14:56 - Jan 19 with 1781 views | stevec |
It was an absolute pleasure to see a goalkeeper of ours not only save a penalty but catch the ball, in his arms, and hold onto it.
What sorcery is this? |  | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 15:31 - Jan 19 with 1735 views | OldPedro |
| Man of the match kelly on 12:06 - Jan 19 by MedwayR |
Kelly has been quick off his line in his other games too, clearly a tactic to close the angle and rush the opposition. Works well most of the time but he’ll get caught out eventually. |
Coming off his line quickly forces the striker to shoot early - if Bamford had managed to chip it into the goal, it would have been a good finish. |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 16:13 - Jan 19 with 1694 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Man of the match kelly on 14:27 - Jan 19 by derbyhoop |
Devil's advocate.
Kelly wasn't MOM for me.
Yes, he saved a penalty. That he gave away.
The only other times I can recall was kicking one away with his feet from Bamford in the 1st half, and the long ranger from Phillips that he needed 2 grabs to hold.
The 2 CBs deserved it more. Masterson v sold and Hall immense - especially 2nd half. |
I agree. Also thought he was too far out for the one Bamford tried to lob.
Then again, it was Bamford... |  |
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| Man of the match kelly on 16:21 - Jan 19 with 1677 views | terryb |
I think it says a fair bit about our performance that at least four players have been nominated on this thread as MOM - Kelly, Hall, Masterson & BOS.
The others gave us 100% as well! | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 16:46 - Jan 19 with 1632 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Man of the match kelly on 16:21 - Jan 19 by terryb |
I think it says a fair bit about our performance that at least four players have been nominated on this thread as MOM - Kelly, Hall, Masterson & BOS.
The others gave us 100% as well! |
All relatively young and homegrown too.
The system is working. | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 17:05 - Jan 19 with 1595 views | johncharles |
| Man of the match kelly on 16:13 - Jan 19 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree. Also thought he was too far out for the one Bamford tried to lob.
Then again, it was Bamford... |
Kelly tipped the ball over the bar very early on in the game avoiding a disastrous start. Don’t think he was too far out for the Bamford “lob”. The alternative would have been to stay on his line and give Bambi a straightforward shooting chance. He forced Bamford into trying the lob.
Saved a penalty (which was a dive) and kept the first clean sheet in living memory.
Not saying he should be MOTM, there were other good contenders but happy enough for him to get it | |
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| Man of the match kelly on 17:26 - Jan 19 with 1573 views | distortR |
| Man of the match kelly on 17:05 - Jan 19 by johncharles |
Kelly tipped the ball over the bar very early on in the game avoiding a disastrous start. Don’t think he was too far out for the Bamford “lob”. The alternative would have been to stay on his line and give Bambi a straightforward shooting chance. He forced Bamford into trying the lob.
Saved a penalty (which was a dive) and kept the first clean sheet in living memory.
Not saying he should be MOTM, there were other good contenders but happy enough for him to get it |
for the penalty, if bamfords touch wasn't so bad kelly probably gets to the ball first. He guessed where bamford wanted to go, but didn't allow for quite how shit he is!! | | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 18:12 - Jan 19 with 1525 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Man of the match kelly on 11:48 - Jan 19 by Nov77 |
Was going to make the same point, if Bamford had finished that easy chance people would have been saying what the hell was he doing out there?
Also, gave the ref a decision to make by getting too close to Bamford and allowing him to DIVE and con the ref.
Made up for it though with an excellent save.
Not convinced he’s the answer long term but better than Lumley at the moment. |
And that's all the matters for now. It's nothing personal, just common sense use of your squad. In the same way that Wallace had to wait for his chance because Manning was playing well, Kelly deserves his opportunity because Lumley has been so poor. No, he's not the messiah but is better suited to MW's style. He exuded confidence and the defence appear to have more confidence in him.
Lest we forget, yesterday was only our third clean sheet of the season against a team that is flying high and enjoyed the bulk of possession. Despite the second half onslaught, at no point did I think QPR would buckle; Leeds would have to win the game on merit. This feeling of assurance was a far cry from the meek surrender at Brentford a mere 1 week ago. |  | | |
| Man of the match kelly on 18:23 - Jan 19 with 1513 views | karl |
| Man of the match kelly on 17:26 - Jan 19 by distortR |
for the penalty, if bamfords touch wasn't so bad kelly probably gets to the ball first. He guessed where bamford wanted to go, but didn't allow for quite how shit he is!! |
I had a theory at the start of the season that there was a potential that Lumley was getting first pick in goals to have the opportunity of selling him later in the season or at the end of it. Kelly would then get promoted with Dieng recalled from loan to continue a little bit of conveyor belt on the goalkeepers but unfortunately Lumley losing form and his confidence has pretty much blown that since Lumley value will now probably be League 1 rather than top Championship or lower Prem understudy.
Shame as there is definitely good business sense in that and I'm sure both keepers were pretty equally backed by the support at the start of the season.
Anyway that's my theory as to how Lumley was so well supported by the manager |  | | |
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