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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread 11:21 - Nov 8 with 27145 viewsAtThePeake

Following on from what Ancoats_Blue posted in the 'now that the dust has settled thread', I think it would be a good idea to have a match thread for each game with pre-match, live and post-match updates. Also gives us one place to stick all of our pre-and post match content in case you miss any of it on the homepage plus a few handy links from elsewhere.

Match preview: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/news/51246/match-preview-wrexham

Played For Both: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/news/51243/played-for-both-wrexh

Racecourse Ground Guide: https://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/conference/conference-premier/wrexha

Ticket news: https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/november/ticket-news-wrexhamaway_101119/

Travel news: https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/november/travelnews-wrexhamaway_100219/

Tangled up in blue.

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 20:48 - Nov 12 with 2383 viewsfitzochris

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 20:14 - Nov 12 by James1980

Apologies some of what I said was borne of frustration.


James does James. Nice.

Blog: Rochdale 2018/19 part three: Getting points on the board

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 21:10 - Nov 12 with 2303 viewsJames1980

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 20:48 - Nov 12 by fitzochris

James does James. Nice.



'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 09:08 - Nov 13 with 2081 views442Dale

Wrexham replay info:

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/november/wrexhamreplaydetails/

Sandy Lane not open.

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 09:47 - Nov 13 with 2022 viewsAncoats_Blue

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 09:08 - Nov 13 by 442Dale

Wrexham replay info:

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/november/wrexhamreplaydetails/

Sandy Lane not open.


Cue folk kicking off about a stand closure again
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 09:50 - Nov 13 with 2020 viewsjpresto

Strange decision to close Sandy when that is the one area of the ground that creates any atmosphere on a matchday.
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 10:10 - Nov 13 with 1995 viewsAtThePeake

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 09:50 - Nov 13 by jpresto

Strange decision to close Sandy when that is the one area of the ground that creates any atmosphere on a matchday.


From my spot in the Main Stand the atmosphere has seemed to be at an all-time low so far this season. I sit closer to the Sandy than the TDS but I tend to hear more from the TDS than the Sandy.

Maybe one game with all the fans who like to sing in the same part of the ground might generate a bit more of an atmosphere?

Tangled up in blue.

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 10:52 - Nov 13 with 1920 views49thseason

Once again the customer gets disrupted for the sake of what? Financial expedience?, 3 less stewards and a couple of gate keepers? Saving a couple of hundred quid? And how many people will say "stuff it, I'm not sitting in those little seats getting sore knees and a bad back"? 20? 30? 40? 100? Does anyone know? Has anyone worked out which parts of the ground lose fans on Tuesday nights is it just the Sandy? And since this is FA Cup and not a season ticket match, do the usual Tuesday night stayaway patterns still apply?
Shutting parts of the ground is a slippery slope, acceptable maybe for tinpot trophy games, but FA Cup? Really?
Attending matches is a habit, one that is hard to break, but when you have only seen 15 wins in 55 home games and then you cant stand with your mates, the habit starts to wear thin. In short, this decision is petty moneypinching which ultimately might be the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve and results in a net loss.... more marketing genius.
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 11:04 - Nov 13 with 1907 viewsDaleFan7

I think the match will have the feel of an FL Trophy game. Can't see that many people taking up a replay on a Tuesday night against a non-league side to be honest.

Only the club know the numbers on how much we'd lose if we opened the Sandy and only a few people go in there compared to a league match. On the other side we should be put in the category of 'more than likely' to go through against a non-league side (even with our awful home record) and that would give us £36,000 to absorb some of the loss, which surely can't be that much.

All hypothetical of course, but so is the club's view that not enough people will turn up to warrant opening the stand.
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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 11:04 - Nov 13 with 1907 viewsSandyDrum

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 10:52 - Nov 13 by 49thseason

Once again the customer gets disrupted for the sake of what? Financial expedience?, 3 less stewards and a couple of gate keepers? Saving a couple of hundred quid? And how many people will say "stuff it, I'm not sitting in those little seats getting sore knees and a bad back"? 20? 30? 40? 100? Does anyone know? Has anyone worked out which parts of the ground lose fans on Tuesday nights is it just the Sandy? And since this is FA Cup and not a season ticket match, do the usual Tuesday night stayaway patterns still apply?
Shutting parts of the ground is a slippery slope, acceptable maybe for tinpot trophy games, but FA Cup? Really?
Attending matches is a habit, one that is hard to break, but when you have only seen 15 wins in 55 home games and then you cant stand with your mates, the habit starts to wear thin. In short, this decision is petty moneypinching which ultimately might be the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve and results in a net loss.... more marketing genius.


Last time the Sandy was shut for an FA Cup game was against Maidstone in a replay on a Tuesday night in November 2016.

Maidstone were also in the conference relegation zone, just like Wrexham.

The attendance that night was 1350 - the main stand holds about 1800 if I'm correct.

Completely justified decision closing the Sandy, we will struggle to break 2000 attendance (probably won't break 1500 to be honest), and I know most people who go in the Sandy probably won't be too bothered about having to sit down for 90 minutes to watch their football team.

Completely over the top reaction 49thseason.
[Post edited 13 Nov 2019 11:05]

Wish I'd chosen a different username...

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 11:41 - Nov 13 with 1852 viewsAncoats_Blue

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 10:52 - Nov 13 by 49thseason

Once again the customer gets disrupted for the sake of what? Financial expedience?, 3 less stewards and a couple of gate keepers? Saving a couple of hundred quid? And how many people will say "stuff it, I'm not sitting in those little seats getting sore knees and a bad back"? 20? 30? 40? 100? Does anyone know? Has anyone worked out which parts of the ground lose fans on Tuesday nights is it just the Sandy? And since this is FA Cup and not a season ticket match, do the usual Tuesday night stayaway patterns still apply?
Shutting parts of the ground is a slippery slope, acceptable maybe for tinpot trophy games, but FA Cup? Really?
Attending matches is a habit, one that is hard to break, but when you have only seen 15 wins in 55 home games and then you cant stand with your mates, the habit starts to wear thin. In short, this decision is petty moneypinching which ultimately might be the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve and results in a net loss.... more marketing genius.


"...the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve ..."

REALLY!? We've done this quite a few times in recent years for unattractive cup fixtures.
If moving stand for one game, for 90 mins, means you'll never come back then you weren't really much of a fan anyway. I'm a sandy ST holder but have had a ST in the main stand and occasionally go into Pearl St or Main stand for cup games. The Sandy has the worst view and worst facilities on offer in the ground. A temporary upgrade is a positive if anything.
If you really want to stand up behind a goal go into the Pearl St. Problem solved.

Christ, Wrexham's terrace has been condemned due to safety reasons. Do you reckon their fanbase has just deserted the club because of this?
[Post edited 13 Nov 2019 11:42]
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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 14:12 - Nov 13 with 1756 viewsjudd

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 11:41 - Nov 13 by Ancoats_Blue

"...the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve ..."

REALLY!? We've done this quite a few times in recent years for unattractive cup fixtures.
If moving stand for one game, for 90 mins, means you'll never come back then you weren't really much of a fan anyway. I'm a sandy ST holder but have had a ST in the main stand and occasionally go into Pearl St or Main stand for cup games. The Sandy has the worst view and worst facilities on offer in the ground. A temporary upgrade is a positive if anything.
If you really want to stand up behind a goal go into the Pearl St. Problem solved.

Christ, Wrexham's terrace has been condemned due to safety reasons. Do you reckon their fanbase has just deserted the club because of this?
[Post edited 13 Nov 2019 11:42]


Not so sure you can stand up in the Pearl Street all game.

People prefer to stand at games for a variety of reasons, personal preference, habit, cost etc.

Given our woeful home form, threadbare squad and inadequate performance at Wrexham, allied to the Manu windfall, the compo for playing last Sunday and the potential prize money at stake, I think the club are being mean spirited once again with a fanbase that cannot afford to be depleted or annoyed any more. Why not try and encourage more people to attend rather than make it harder?

I won't be going.

Poll: What is it to be then?

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 14:16 - Nov 13 with 1751 viewsSuddenLad

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 10:52 - Nov 13 by 49thseason

Once again the customer gets disrupted for the sake of what? Financial expedience?, 3 less stewards and a couple of gate keepers? Saving a couple of hundred quid? And how many people will say "stuff it, I'm not sitting in those little seats getting sore knees and a bad back"? 20? 30? 40? 100? Does anyone know? Has anyone worked out which parts of the ground lose fans on Tuesday nights is it just the Sandy? And since this is FA Cup and not a season ticket match, do the usual Tuesday night stayaway patterns still apply?
Shutting parts of the ground is a slippery slope, acceptable maybe for tinpot trophy games, but FA Cup? Really?
Attending matches is a habit, one that is hard to break, but when you have only seen 15 wins in 55 home games and then you cant stand with your mates, the habit starts to wear thin. In short, this decision is petty moneypinching which ultimately might be the straw that permanently breaks a couple of supporters resolve and results in a net loss.... more marketing genius.


Bloody hell. We're playing lowly Wrexham not Arsenal. We'll struggle to fill one side of the ground, never mind 3.

I see no problem with the decision for this match. It makes perfect sense. Let's just win it and move on....

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 15:17 - Nov 13 with 1683 viewsBigKindo

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 14:16 - Nov 13 by SuddenLad

Bloody hell. We're playing lowly Wrexham not Arsenal. We'll struggle to fill one side of the ground, never mind 3.

I see no problem with the decision for this match. It makes perfect sense. Let's just win it and move on....


.. but yet again season ticket supporters cannot reserve their seat. If you have to buy a ticket for the main stand it isn't rocket science to keep back season ticket holders seats until say Saturday lunchtime. I know of at least one season ticket holder who will not be attending because of this. Poor customer service.
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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 15:24 - Nov 13 with 1668 viewsAncoats_Blue

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 14:12 - Nov 13 by judd

Not so sure you can stand up in the Pearl Street all game.

People prefer to stand at games for a variety of reasons, personal preference, habit, cost etc.

Given our woeful home form, threadbare squad and inadequate performance at Wrexham, allied to the Manu windfall, the compo for playing last Sunday and the potential prize money at stake, I think the club are being mean spirited once again with a fanbase that cannot afford to be depleted or annoyed any more. Why not try and encourage more people to attend rather than make it harder?

I won't be going.


So is it the woeful home form, threadbare squad, inadequate performance at Wrexham or the temporary closure of the Sandy Lane that is stopping you from going?

I'd say the first 3 points would trump the final point in most fans eyes.

I won't be going either. But that's because I've got prior arrangements. It's a shame cause I was looking forward to resting my legs and getting to know the Main Stand OAPs :/.
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 15:37 - Nov 13 with 1635 viewsEllDale

Without being too facetious I think I'll wait and see what category game it is.
I'm sorely tempted to give it a swerve though.
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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 15:52 - Nov 13 with 1602 viewsjudd

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 15:24 - Nov 13 by Ancoats_Blue

So is it the woeful home form, threadbare squad, inadequate performance at Wrexham or the temporary closure of the Sandy Lane that is stopping you from going?

I'd say the first 3 points would trump the final point in most fans eyes.

I won't be going either. But that's because I've got prior arrangements. It's a shame cause I was looking forward to resting my legs and getting to know the Main Stand OAPs :/.


Does there need to be just one reason?

Add them all up and the sum is reasons for discontentment among some supporters.

Other social media sites are largely not as supportive of the closure from what I have seen.

Poll: What is it to be then?

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 15:56 - Nov 13 with 1592 viewsDaleiLama

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 15:37 - Nov 13 by EllDale

Without being too facetious I think I'll wait and see what category game it is.
I'm sorely tempted to give it a swerve though.


£15 in main stand. Didn't check the TDS.

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 16:19 - Nov 13 with 1550 viewsnordenblue

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 14:12 - Nov 13 by judd

Not so sure you can stand up in the Pearl Street all game.

People prefer to stand at games for a variety of reasons, personal preference, habit, cost etc.

Given our woeful home form, threadbare squad and inadequate performance at Wrexham, allied to the Manu windfall, the compo for playing last Sunday and the potential prize money at stake, I think the club are being mean spirited once again with a fanbase that cannot afford to be depleted or annoyed any more. Why not try and encourage more people to attend rather than make it harder?

I won't be going.


I'll give it a swerve too,something that's become VERY easy to get into the habit of sadly recently, not worth spending £15 to go home no doubt pissed off and wondering why the fook I wasted another 3/4 hours of my life I'll never get back,
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:08 - Nov 13 with 1490 viewsSandyman

After spending £15 on a ticket to watch a half-arsed display in Wrexham, I'm not encouraged to pay £15 to go in a stand I prefer not to be in for the replay if such half-arsedness is going to be on display again.
Rather than a "definitely going", it'll be a case of "if I can be mithered" , seeing what the team sheet is first, or a better use for £15 getting in the way.
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:33 - Nov 13 with 1440 viewsJames1980

And here's me contemplating on getting the night bus back from Manchester on Tuesday night if I am rostered a late shift on Wednesday. Perhaps I should consult a psychiatrist.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:42 - Nov 13 with 1426 viewsjudd

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:33 - Nov 13 by James1980

And here's me contemplating on getting the night bus back from Manchester on Tuesday night if I am rostered a late shift on Wednesday. Perhaps I should consult a psychiatrist.


James, having listened to your arduous journey details on Sunday then you definitely need certifying if you attend the replay!

Poll: What is it to be then?

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:50 - Nov 13 with 1410 viewsJames1980

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:42 - Nov 13 by judd

James, having listened to your arduous journey details on Sunday then you definitely need certifying if you attend the replay!


It's like being a gambler chasing the next win. What if I miss this game and it goes down in Dale folklore.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:53 - Nov 13 with 1404 viewsDalenet

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:33 - Nov 13 by James1980

And here's me contemplating on getting the night bus back from Manchester on Tuesday night if I am rostered a late shift on Wednesday. Perhaps I should consult a psychiatrist.


You can also be sensible and pay £10 to watch it in i-player James. I am in two minds and I only have a 300 mile round trip
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Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:57 - Nov 13 with 1391 viewsJames1980

Wrexham (A) - Match Thread on 17:53 - Nov 13 by Dalenet

You can also be sensible and pay £10 to watch it in i-player James. I am in two minds and I only have a 300 mile round trip


If it is on I Player that sounds like a more sensible option

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 18:23 - Nov 13 with 1354 viewsShun

Wrexham (A) - Match ThreadC on 11:04 - Nov 13 by SandyDrum

Last time the Sandy was shut for an FA Cup game was against Maidstone in a replay on a Tuesday night in November 2016.

Maidstone were also in the conference relegation zone, just like Wrexham.

The attendance that night was 1350 - the main stand holds about 1800 if I'm correct.

Completely justified decision closing the Sandy, we will struggle to break 2000 attendance (probably won't break 1500 to be honest), and I know most people who go in the Sandy probably won't be too bothered about having to sit down for 90 minutes to watch their football team.

Completely over the top reaction 49thseason.
[Post edited 13 Nov 2019 11:05]


Glad you said it. Bizarre reactions to a pretty sensible decision by the club.
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