| Dean Saunders Jailed. 11:57 - Aug 28 with 12279 views | dazdec197296 |
Been sentenced to 10 weeks in prison for refusing a breath test. |  | | |  |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 09:55 - Aug 30 with 1825 views | dcd14 |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 02:49 - Aug 30 by BarryTownSwam |
Hilarious video of a ridiculed man, if it wasn’t such a serious subject.
This video isn’t released by Saunders’ legal team it’s released by the CPS and Police. They subtlety defend themselves and their actions that night. Whatever Saunders’ legal team say in court this video disputes anything to do with (a) it only involved a few drinks, (b) he received confusing (or incorrect) advice about giving a sample before his lawyer could arrive at the police station,(c) that the police acted inappropriately or unfairly and (d) that he was received harsher treatment due to his ‘fame’. The thought the police acted professionally and compassionately and gave very clear information as to due process and what would happen if Saunders refused to give a sample until his lawyer turned up. Whatever defence his legal team throw to the courts this video supports all the actions and decisions taken by the police and CPS, and refutes any misinformation or wrong doing by anyone but a drunk driving Saunders. Check mate to the CPS here ! 👌 |
Having watched the video I thought the police could have done better to explain the consequences of him not providing a sample.
He was upside down and being told you'll be charged in that state would mean next to nothing, mention the chance of a jail term maybe would have resonated more.
However he committed the crime so ..... |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:06 - Aug 30 with 1791 views | perchrockjack |
So someone who drives a car is too pissed to understand what is going on?
An old ruse solicitors use all the time.
The prisoners rights cannot delay a station breath test;they do not have to wait for a solicitor to attend.It is not an interview.
People like Nick Freeman are a tumour on us all and my point regarding solicitors stands . Justice is the very least in their mind,getting their client to walk away is and their fees.
We are making excuses ,debating the ridiculous.Saunders and all people like him anre fully aware of drink driving and its consequences ;when caught ,they squeal like pigs. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:13 - Aug 30 with 1783 views | raynor94 |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 09:55 - Aug 30 by dcd14 |
Having watched the video I thought the police could have done better to explain the consequences of him not providing a sample.
He was upside down and being told you'll be charged in that state would mean next to nothing, mention the chance of a jail term maybe would have resonated more.
However he committed the crime so ..... |
He wasn't upside down, he was hammered, hopefully the appeal fails, and he does some time.
Fail to see how anyone can have sympathy with him having watched that |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:19 - Aug 30 with 1760 views | Darran |
He’ll be back on Talkshite before you know it with the likes of Waynekerr queuing up to suck his arse. |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:27 - Aug 30 with 1758 views | dobjack2 |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 09:18 - Aug 30 by raynor94 |
Scotland doesn't seem to have a problem with near zero tolerance, and as for being unfair, what a selfish stupid statement |
Scotland isn’t near zero tolerance yet but is lower than England and Wales. The sensible thing to do is to drop the limit to the same as Scotland with a view to possibly halving it in time if things don’t change.
That would effectively be zero tolerance.
The next thing is sentencing. A sliding scale based on how over the limit and repeat offenders would be appropriate. If being well over the limit or being a repeat offender results in a loss of licence and consequently job then that is tough. Solicitors will always try to mitigate on behalf of their clients however there should be no acceptable mitigation.
What are the current ones? My drinks were spiked, i need the car to visit my sick/infirm (insert name of family member) or i will lose my job and be out on the streets.
Laws can be made however if the sentencing is weak they are ineffective. | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:30 - Aug 30 with 1750 views | perchrockjack |
I accept a zero limit is very significant.Many ,including me, who would have a few beers /glasses of wine the day before driving ,would have to change lifestyles but frankly,is it such a bad deal.
Technology is there for Alcolock to be fitted from motor cycles to large HGVs
If we are serious about reducing carnage then we have to be radical.
Finally, as regards my caustic comments against the legal boys, I will finish by directly quoting a Barrister at Preston Crown ;"Its not our fault the case collapsed if the witness loses credibility or Police break P.A.C.E. It is for YOU to present the case and if it fails then it is down to you.Don't take it to heart" Technically correct but morally bereft .
Its why the death penalty returning is a non starter. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:00 - Aug 30 with 1727 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 10:30 - Aug 30 by perchrockjack |
I accept a zero limit is very significant.Many ,including me, who would have a few beers /glasses of wine the day before driving ,would have to change lifestyles but frankly,is it such a bad deal.
Technology is there for Alcolock to be fitted from motor cycles to large HGVs
If we are serious about reducing carnage then we have to be radical.
Finally, as regards my caustic comments against the legal boys, I will finish by directly quoting a Barrister at Preston Crown ;"Its not our fault the case collapsed if the witness loses credibility or Police break P.A.C.E. It is for YOU to present the case and if it fails then it is down to you.Don't take it to heart" Technically correct but morally bereft .
Its why the death penalty returning is a non starter. |
I agree some barristers are morally bereft. I've come across a few (not many) police officers who are equally so, in fact I was defending a police assault where his own colleagues gave evidence against him, case was dropped on the day of the trial due to the CPS obtaining bodycam from one of his colleagues which showed him laying into the defendant. What does that prove ? That the police are morally corrupt ? Of course not. That single officer was.
My reputation is crucial to me, I truly care about what I do, prosecuting or defending, to say we are all in that ilk, is the biggest insult you could pay to a barrister. I've sat with and consoled victims of crime and people wrongly accused who have had their lives destroyed, lost jobs, been incarcerated and lost their savings due to false allegations. I defended kids in care homes for offences who have backgrounds that are unspeakably horrific, and I have had to defend people who have committed appalling offences.
Everyone is entitled to a defence, otherwise society collapses. I care, very much about what I do, my first duty is to the Court. |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:05 - Aug 30 with 1710 views | Darran |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:00 - Aug 30 by Sirjohnalot |
I agree some barristers are morally bereft. I've come across a few (not many) police officers who are equally so, in fact I was defending a police assault where his own colleagues gave evidence against him, case was dropped on the day of the trial due to the CPS obtaining bodycam from one of his colleagues which showed him laying into the defendant. What does that prove ? That the police are morally corrupt ? Of course not. That single officer was.
My reputation is crucial to me, I truly care about what I do, prosecuting or defending, to say we are all in that ilk, is the biggest insult you could pay to a barrister. I've sat with and consoled victims of crime and people wrongly accused who have had their lives destroyed, lost jobs, been incarcerated and lost their savings due to false allegations. I defended kids in care homes for offences who have backgrounds that are unspeakably horrific, and I have had to defend people who have committed appalling offences.
Everyone is entitled to a defence, otherwise society collapses. I care, very much about what I do, my first duty is to the Court. |
Spot on John.
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:09 - Aug 30 with 1713 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:05 - Aug 30 by Darran |
Spot on John.
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You should be banned for trolling this man |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:55 - Aug 30 with 1679 views | perchrockjack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:00 - Aug 30 by Sirjohnalot |
I agree some barristers are morally bereft. I've come across a few (not many) police officers who are equally so, in fact I was defending a police assault where his own colleagues gave evidence against him, case was dropped on the day of the trial due to the CPS obtaining bodycam from one of his colleagues which showed him laying into the defendant. What does that prove ? That the police are morally corrupt ? Of course not. That single officer was.
My reputation is crucial to me, I truly care about what I do, prosecuting or defending, to say we are all in that ilk, is the biggest insult you could pay to a barrister. I've sat with and consoled victims of crime and people wrongly accused who have had their lives destroyed, lost jobs, been incarcerated and lost their savings due to false allegations. I defended kids in care homes for offences who have backgrounds that are unspeakably horrific, and I have had to defend people who have committed appalling offences.
Everyone is entitled to a defence, otherwise society collapses. I care, very much about what I do, my first duty is to the Court. |
No Sir John-your first and primary duty is to your fellow man and society.
Courts do not hand out "justice" .They have a chap ,more senior than you, who applies guidelines. Justice it is not.
Killers walking free is not justice,neither are derisory sentences YOU advocate for your client.
YOU are not at scene of the crime.You do see the hurt,smell the blood and shit,hear the anguish or taste the fear of reprisal when YOUR clients walk free because the case is found not guilty ,which as you know ,is nothing to do with innocence.
Not for nothing are we beholden to the Legal Leeches .
Your profession is morally bankrupt and whilst everyone should have a defence counsel,no counsel should seek to minimise punishment for the sake of his client.
VICTIM EVERYTIME .remember that. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:59 - Aug 30 with 1674 views | perchrockjack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:09 - Aug 30 by Brynmill_Jack |
You should be banned for trolling this man |
Bryn.
I have explained my position and have expressed my wish to move forward and eshew old spats.
I bet the man 500 quid ,which is well documented but the offer was declined but ,if I fall for short of my pledge ,I really will give the money to Ty Hafan.
No insults coming from me,no mater what is said or written. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 12:07 - Aug 30 with 1666 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 11:55 - Aug 30 by perchrockjack |
No Sir John-your first and primary duty is to your fellow man and society.
Courts do not hand out "justice" .They have a chap ,more senior than you, who applies guidelines. Justice it is not.
Killers walking free is not justice,neither are derisory sentences YOU advocate for your client.
YOU are not at scene of the crime.You do see the hurt,smell the blood and shit,hear the anguish or taste the fear of reprisal when YOUR clients walk free because the case is found not guilty ,which as you know ,is nothing to do with innocence.
Not for nothing are we beholden to the Legal Leeches .
Your profession is morally bankrupt and whilst everyone should have a defence counsel,no counsel should seek to minimise punishment for the sake of his client.
VICTIM EVERYTIME .remember that. |
Perch, you have your view, I have mine, and it seems, never the twain shall meet.
If you're travelling up to Leeds, have a safe journey, if not have a lovely weekend. | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 12:48 - Aug 30 with 1606 views | Darran |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 12:07 - Aug 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Perch, you have your view, I have mine, and it seems, never the twain shall meet.
If you're travelling up to Leeds, have a safe journey, if not have a lovely weekend. |
What’s your view of the screenshot I posted above John? It’s a former police officer talking about the things the Merseyside police used to get up to for enjoyment. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 13:25 - Aug 30 with 1581 views | perchrockjack |
This would have been better.
My client accepts his behaviour was not only unaccepable but dangerous possibly lethal.
He drines 10000 miles per yr to charity events but accepts his inevitable and justifiable ban mean he will employ a driver as he able to afford this.
He wishes to apologise to the arresting officers and custody sergeant for wasting their feckn time and that of the Court who have better things to do than listen to legal duplicity to avoid or limit sentence.
Can he go to the same open prison where Jan Molby went.? | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 13:39 - Aug 30 with 1560 views | dameedna |
Waiting for a public apology.
Unreal. |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 13:57 - Aug 30 with 1530 views | perchrockjack |
Not really.Dicks like him have a self importance and arrogance few can envisage but these people exist.
They want to do as they feel with whosoever by what means they choose.
He d be better off sentenced to porter work in A@E at weekends amongst the blood and the snot and the beer | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:03 - Aug 30 with 1525 views | sainthelens |
Tard and feathered, led around in chains at half time home game wearing a scummers shirt. |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:18 - Aug 30 with 1511 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 12:48 - Aug 30 by Darran |
What’s your view of the screenshot I posted above John? It’s a former police officer talking about the things the Merseyside police used to get up to for enjoyment. |
It depends on whether it is
a) Just blather and exaggeration
b) a real history of Gene Hunt type behaviour back in the day
c) an example of one of the rouge officers I was talking about.
Point is I am mates and run with a lot of member of GMP and Cheshire police and the stories I've heard about them running towards the MEN bombings fills me with nothing but awe.
Over the years, I've come across a handful of dodgy police but no more so than in any other job | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:23 - Aug 30 with 1500 views | perchrockjack |
I can well imagine the dialogue you ve been having . I doubt you would take at face value anything posted on here at face value.If we believe all we read, we are buggered.You read statements/reports and act as to what you see before you. You have no idea who is telling the truth as you are not at a crime scene.
You are highly trained and we both know exactly what the game is all about. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:29 - Aug 30 with 1493 views | perchrockjack |
Jonalot.#I would like to add I have met a few decent lawyers albeit ones not involved with crime work.
Dodgy police maybe,but still the people you look to when you are being attacked or need help.
Anyway, this exchange is at an end as YET AGAIN ,IT HAS BEEN POLLUTED. Mods ,please ,just do it,will you.It is time.
If you like,PM me and we will take this off site and we can elaborate free from trolls | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:35 - Aug 30 with 1484 views | Darran |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:18 - Aug 30 by Sirjohnalot |
It depends on whether it is
a) Just blather and exaggeration
b) a real history of Gene Hunt type behaviour back in the day
c) an example of one of the rouge officers I was talking about.
Point is I am mates and run with a lot of member of GMP and Cheshire police and the stories I've heard about them running towards the MEN bombings fills me with nothing but awe.
Over the years, I've come across a handful of dodgy police but no more so than in any other job |
Great reply I too think they do an admirable job and a handful of dodgy ones beating people up for fun shouldn’t damage the fantastic work the majority of them do keeping us safe. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 16:53 - Aug 30 with 1409 views | swancity |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 09:55 - Aug 30 by dcd14 |
Having watched the video I thought the police could have done better to explain the consequences of him not providing a sample.
He was upside down and being told you'll be charged in that state would mean next to nothing, mention the chance of a jail term maybe would have resonated more.
However he committed the crime so ..... |
Upside down ? 😂😂😂
Yes clearly as pissed as a fart if that’s what you mean
Nothing to defend his actions ... let himself down very badly I’m sorry to say | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:31 - Aug 30 with 1320 views | majorraglan |
I suspect Saunders will now become a bit of a persona non grata now and that his media work/punditry will begin to dry up, he’s only himself to blame though. What he did was inexcusable. | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:39 - Aug 30 with 1308 views | Darran |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:31 - Aug 30 by majorraglan |
I suspect Saunders will now become a bit of a persona non grata now and that his media work/punditry will begin to dry up, he’s only himself to blame though. What he did was inexcusable. |
He’ll be back on the after dinner speaking circuit telling jokes about his arrest and all the drunken pricks will find it hilarious. | |
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