| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ 07:15 - Feb 2 with 8836 views | Brynmill_Jack |
How much is it worth now? In the championship, still some massive liabilities and assuming obviously that we don’t get promoted this season?
It’s a genuine question. Maybe it should be phrased - “how much would the hedge finders accept to get the f*ck out?”. |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:24 - Feb 2 with 6397 views | exhmrc1 |
probably around 30 million of which their 68% share would net them approx. 20 million so they would make a loss of near 50 million. If the club gets another relegation then the value would be less and the loss greater. |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:32 - Feb 2 with 6378 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:24 - Feb 2 by exhmrc1 |
probably around 30 million of which their 68% share would net them approx. 20 million so they would make a loss of near 50 million. If the club gets another relegation then the value would be less and the loss greater. |
Which their investors are no way going to accept. But if we are unlikely to be promoted due to a dwindling pool of talent hypothetically how else are they going to make their money back? Best cut and run I say. The fans have had the lights switched on over this transfer window and there’s no way of putting that genie back in the bottle. They’ve shown their hand and anything they try to say to the contrary is going to be ridiculed. | |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:48 - Feb 2 with 6349 views | exhmrc1 |
the problem for anyone taking on the club is the debt the yanks have created through transfer fees and excessive wages | | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 08:05 - Feb 2 with 6314 views | Whiterockin |
I believe the club was valued at £100M when the shares were sold. The club was not sold for £67M that was what the Americans paid for their shares. |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 08:37 - Feb 2 with 6247 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
What is the amount that the Trust may/could gain through court action? |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 08:57 - Feb 2 with 6200 views | exhmrc1 |
£21 million 21% share on the same basis as the other share holders received. £1 million per 1% share. | | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 09:12 - Feb 2 with 6149 views | Gowerjack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:48 - Feb 2 by exhmrc1 |
the problem for anyone taking on the club is the debt the yanks have created through transfer fees and excessive wages |
the problem for anyone taking on the club is the debt that was created by the arrogance greed and stupidity of Huw Jenkins with his appalling record on transfer fees and excessive wages.
There.
I've fixed that for you.. |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 09:17 - Feb 2 with 6127 views | Dewi1jack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 08:57 - Feb 2 by exhmrc1 |
£21 million 21% share on the same basis as the other share holders received. £1 million per 1% share. |
My worry is that the club comes up for sale (£1 with debt say for arguments sake) and the sell out scum buy it back again.
The reason I voted for legal action to begin with was so that the Trust may/would possibly have over £21 million to allow them to find a consortium to come in with similar. Or even the consortium taking 2 thirds of the shares and us 1 third.
Would have meant my nightmare scenario above wasn't a possibility, as the sellers wouldn't have had any cash to make a viable acceptable offer.
Although that might not have stopped the Yeehaas selling to them, just to spite the fanbase.
Now I await the Sellout scum apologists coming on to tell us it would be a good thing if they bought the club back or my scenario isn't possible  |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 10:11 - Feb 2 with 6012 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 08:57 - Feb 2 by exhmrc1 |
£21 million 21% share on the same basis as the other share holders received. £1 million per 1% share. |
Thanks, from a purely financial perspective, a Hedge Fund perspective, we are getting into reasonable legal territory for the Trust. If the club is worth £20M to £30M (my guess) and the downside to legal action is £20M, if someone offered £15M for the club you'd have to consider it.
As the club's value declines the potential impact of the Trust's legal action becomes more and more unattractive to the Americans. [Post edited 2 Feb 2019 11:13]
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:15 - Feb 2 with 5908 views | Thornburyswan |
Noting most Championship clubs make losses (without sale of their top players which you can't do every year without falling into Div 1) I suspect we are not far off the 'sale for a £1' as per 17 years ago - suspect a motivated buyer might pay a few £££ more but our American firiends must be looking at a circa £50M drop. | | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:33 - Feb 2 with 5871 views | A_Fans_Dad |
If the Yanks sell before a Trust Court Case where will that leave the Trust Fund's Share Value, which should be around £20M.
If the Yanks sell for £20M that would leave the Trust with around £5M.
If the Yanks have to pay the £20M to the Trust they are going to be facing an even bigger loss. [Post edited 2 Feb 2019 11:34]
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:35 - Feb 2 with 5859 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:15 - Feb 2 by Thornburyswan |
Noting most Championship clubs make losses (without sale of their top players which you can't do every year without falling into Div 1) I suspect we are not far off the 'sale for a £1' as per 17 years ago - suspect a motivated buyer might pay a few £££ more but our American firiends must be looking at a circa £50M drop. |
Legal looking like it may be worth a shot on that basis, the Americans will be thinking about what they can get out very quickly and will delay the process to do this. | |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:57 - Feb 2 with 5826 views | jacktheripper |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 11:33 - Feb 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
If the Yanks sell before a Trust Court Case where will that leave the Trust Fund's Share Value, which should be around £20M.
If the Yanks sell for £20M that would leave the Trust with around £5M.
If the Yanks have to pay the £20M to the Trust they are going to be facing an even bigger loss. [Post edited 2 Feb 2019 11:34]
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No legal expert but from what was said at the Trust AGM the court action will be about the sale in 2016 and nothing in the meantime will affect that ie share dilution |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 12:29 - Feb 2 with 5772 views | valleyboy |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:32 - Feb 2 by Brynmill_Jack |
Which their investors are no way going to accept. But if we are unlikely to be promoted due to a dwindling pool of talent hypothetically how else are they going to make their money back? Best cut and run I say. The fans have had the lights switched on over this transfer window and there’s no way of putting that genie back in the bottle. They’ve shown their hand and anything they try to say to the contrary is going to be ridiculed. |
Last year was not a very good year for “Trust Funds” in general, so it wouldn’t surprise me that the Yanks will cut their losses and run. Taking as much money they can out of Swansea City
Is it not suspicious that the Trust’s Director on the Board can’t see what the financial position of the club is???
I wonder why is that??? | | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 12:45 - Feb 2 with 5737 views | swan65split |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 12:29 - Feb 2 by valleyboy |
Last year was not a very good year for “Trust Funds” in general, so it wouldn’t surprise me that the Yanks will cut their losses and run. Taking as much money they can out of Swansea City
Is it not suspicious that the Trust’s Director on the Board can’t see what the financial position of the club is???
I wonder why is that??? |
My /Our biggest fear is that once the parachute payments end..and Club cant be sold, it"ll be the end of us, shut and f&ck. |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:18 - Feb 2 with 5692 views | _ |
Good question and let's assume, Just for the sake of being crazy, us fans could crowd fund it....
What would we all decide to do then when we see we'll have no money and piling debts by the end of this season, the beginning of next and a lot worse the year after.
What will we do then? Serious question? Keep giving contracts out, keep trying to sign players? |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:19 - Feb 2 with 5690 views | _ |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 07:48 - Feb 2 by exhmrc1 |
the problem for anyone taking on the club is the debt the yanks have created through transfer fees and excessive wages |
They have created?
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:21 - Feb 2 with 5681 views | Flashberryjack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 12:45 - Feb 2 by swan65split |
My /Our biggest fear is that once the parachute payments end..and Club cant be sold, it"ll be the end of us, shut and f&ck. |
The parachute payments are the Yanks insurance money, which I'm sure they factored in before they bought their controlling shares.
They won't be going anywhere until the last parachute payment has been squirreled away, and before some financial genius tells they can't do that, where there's loads of money involved there's always a way. |  |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:23 - Feb 2 with 5669 views | _ |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:21 - Feb 2 by Flashberryjack |
The parachute payments are the Yanks insurance money, which I'm sure they factored in before they bought their controlling shares.
They won't be going anywhere until the last parachute payment has been squirreled away, and before some financial genius tells they can't do that, where there's loads of money involved there's always a way. |
The parachute payments have gone you beauty
Gone. | |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:50 - Feb 2 with 5624 views | chad |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:18 - Feb 2 by _ |
Good question and let's assume, Just for the sake of being crazy, us fans could crowd fund it....
What would we all decide to do then when we see we'll have no money and piling debts by the end of this season, the beginning of next and a lot worse the year after.
What will we do then? Serious question? Keep giving contracts out, keep trying to sign players? |
The point you are missing is they are not fans they are venture capitalists
Their objective is profit
Failing the likelihood of that in a reasonable time, their Exit Strategy will dictate withdrawing with as much as they can extract from the club.
We have seen even the sellout fans put their pockets before the club.
So how much less concern for the state they leave the club in can we expect from unrelated venture capitalist on another continent on the other side of a very large ocean operating through a cloaked company in another country. |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:51 - Feb 2 with 5616 views | Flashberryjack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:23 - Feb 2 by _ |
The parachute payments have gone you beauty
Gone. |
Where ? | |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:55 - Feb 2 with 5605 views | swan65split |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:23 - Feb 2 by _ |
The parachute payments have gone you beauty
Gone. |
Youve seen the books then?  | | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 14:01 - Feb 2 with 5590 views | Flashberryjack |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:55 - Feb 2 by swan65split |
Youve seen the books then? |
Of course he has. | |
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| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 14:07 - Feb 2 with 5580 views | Earl_Strickland |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:50 - Feb 2 by chad |
The point you are missing is they are not fans they are venture capitalists
Their objective is profit
Failing the likelihood of that in a reasonable time, their Exit Strategy will dictate withdrawing with as much as they can extract from the club.
We have seen even the sellout fans put their pockets before the club.
So how much less concern for the state they leave the club in can we expect from unrelated venture capitalist on another continent on the other side of a very large ocean operating through a cloaked company in another country. |
There's no point engaging with this tedious feck wit, he should swap this site for chatterbate lots of wan*ers get on there, he'd be right at home. |  | | |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 14:12 - Feb 2 with 5564 views | _ |
| If the club was sold for £67 million in the Premier League........ on 13:50 - Feb 2 by chad |
The point you are missing is they are not fans they are venture capitalists
Their objective is profit
Failing the likelihood of that in a reasonable time, their Exit Strategy will dictate withdrawing with as much as they can extract from the club.
We have seen even the sellout fans put their pockets before the club.
So how much less concern for the state they leave the club in can we expect from unrelated venture capitalist on another continent on the other side of a very large ocean operating through a cloaked company in another country. |
You've missed the gaping wide hole of a point.
What would we do now as fans if we owned the club in our current situation. | |
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