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Like most decisions, fouls, penalties, offsides, yellow cards, red cards - a different ref/linesman you get a different decision. Just the luck on the day.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
Like most decisions, fouls, penalties, offsides, yellow cards, red cards - a different ref/linesman you get a different decision. Just the luck on the day.
I get that but who are the people on these review panels surely it must be people in the know ie referees
I get that but who are the people on these review panels surely it must be people in the know ie referees
There usually has to be a reason above and beyond the ref's interpretation on the day to rescind a red card, i.e. mistaken identity, playacting or other extenuating circumstance
There's also a marginal difference between the two challenges. The Bournemouth player at least looked like he might be trying to get the ball, even if he knew he wouldn't and would trip Pogba in the attempt, whilst keeping his feet close to the ground. In Hendo's case, there was no attempt to get the ball whatsoever with a shin-high challenge
There usually has to be a reason above and beyond the ref's interpretation on the day to rescind a red card, i.e. mistaken identity, playacting or other extenuating circumstance
There's also a marginal difference between the two challenges. The Bournemouth player at least looked like he might be trying to get the ball, even if he knew he wouldn't and would trip Pogba in the attempt, whilst keeping his feet close to the ground. In Hendo's case, there was no attempt to get the ball whatsoever with a shin-high challenge
You're welcome to disagree
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Thanks for the permission ,not needed! The above coverage doesn't really show a true reflection of what happend and the intent was in no way to get anything other than the player in both instances
Reviews are only actioned if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the ref. Nine times out of ten the review will back the ref supporting his authority.
This is very much how cricket approached reviews.
When first introduced, the stress was on supporting the on field umpire not over-ruling him. To a certain extent it still applies, with decisions staying with the on field umpire where 49% of the ball is/is not hitting the stumps. It has improved of late with teams retaining their review in such situations.
VAR is similiarly built. It is all about the on field umpire authority. Hence why it takes so long, fans are not allowed to see in the ground in case the ref gets aggro off the back of it.
Thanks for the permission ,not needed! The above coverage doesn't really show a true reflection of what happend and the intent was in no way to get anything other than the player in both instances
Perhaps old age and failing eyesight colours my view,but reckon that the Bournemouth tackle looks to me as if the Bournemouth player modelled his tackle on Henderson's effort. Absolutely no way either of them could have got the ball even if their leg had been 10ft long
Oldham got away with a similar crude and dangerous foul on Tuesday. Maybe their lad would have gotten sent off if the referee hadn't already been nearly assaulted by a fan when having the audacity to give a decision against them, or perhaps it's just a yellow card offence.
I think the fact so many of these violent challenges are getting yellow cards suggests that if a red is given then he shouldn't have gotten more than a 2 game ban.
Like most decisions, fouls, penalties, offsides, yellow cards, red cards - a different ref/linesman you get a different decision. Just the luck on the day.
As the kids say, this.
There’s also the issue of the angle the officials see the incident from.
Like Tuesday’s penalty, we might not get that on a different day.
Swings and roundabouts, rough with the smooth, sort of thing.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Oldham got away with a similar crude and dangerous foul on Tuesday. Maybe their lad would have gotten sent off if the referee hadn't already been nearly assaulted by a fan when having the audacity to give a decision against them, or perhaps it's just a yellow card offence.
I think the fact so many of these violent challenges are getting yellow cards suggests that if a red is given then he shouldn't have gotten more than a 2 game ban.
Remembering back to the Spurs home game, I think it was McGahey who did a really hard tackle on Winks. At the ground it looked just like a hard tackle but from behind - think it was not even a yellow as it was so early and the ref just gave a talking to. When I watched it back later it was proper 2 footed and high. Another ref and another day he could have had a very early red card. In fairness to Winks he got up and didn't make a meal of it which helped greatly.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
There’s also the issue of the angle the officials see the incident from.
Like Tuesday’s penalty, we might not get that on a different day.
Swings and roundabouts, rough with the smooth, sort of thing.
Whilst I actually agreed that Hendo's challend was worthy of a red card, I think what annoys people (myself included) is the fact that two very similar challenges a few days apart have resulted in one player getting a 4 game ban, whilst the other was allowed to complete the game, and will have no ban whatsoever.
Whilst I actually agreed that Hendo's challend was worthy of a red card, I think what annoys people (myself included) is the fact that two very similar challenges a few days apart have resulted in one player getting a 4 game ban, whilst the other was allowed to complete the game, and will have no ban whatsoever.
Aye, but that’s just the way things go. We need to focus on things we can control and not put ourselves in such situations.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Oldham got away with a similar crude and dangerous foul on Tuesday. Maybe their lad would have gotten sent off if the referee hadn't already been nearly assaulted by a fan when having the audacity to give a decision against them, or perhaps it's just a yellow card offence.
I think the fact so many of these violent challenges are getting yellow cards suggests that if a red is given then he shouldn't have gotten more than a 2 game ban.
Totally agree you could see what was coming when he was about 10 yards away and I sit at the back of the WMG,almost in a Calvinesque way so why couldn't the officials who were far closer than I was.
Oldham got away with a similar crude and dangerous foul on Tuesday. Maybe their lad would have gotten sent off if the referee hadn't already been nearly assaulted by a fan when having the audacity to give a decision against them, or perhaps it's just a yellow card offence.
I think the fact so many of these violent challenges are getting yellow cards suggests that if a red is given then he shouldn't have gotten more than a 2 game ban.
Agree with this, the offence was a red but the ban was excessive in effect 4 game ban for a trip that in the Bournemouth case was only a caution.
I think consistency is the single most irritating thing for fans. The Pogba one is one example, but I couldnt believe Bournemouth got away with the one on Herrera, it was a proper leg breaker, Herrera's a lucky lad, though he did go off shortly after
Season after season, the chat after matches is about the consistency in refereeing decisions more than about the football, or how our team played. it's more depressing than seeing a poor performance from the team.
Season after season, the chat after matches is about the consistency in refereeing decisions more than about the football, or how our team played. it's more depressing than seeing a poor performance from the team.
Is it?
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
To me, if it's down to the referee's interpretation, and two referees give a different outcome for the same incident, the laws of the game are not clear enough as they are open to mis-interpretation. The FA should be looking in to why there is no consistency.
To me, if it's down to the referee's interpretation, and two referees give a different outcome for the same incident, the laws of the game are not clear enough as they are open to mis-interpretation. The FA should be looking in to why there is no consistency.
Because the game is controlled by a human being, not a machine.
Maybe they should bring in something with the acronym VAR...
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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