| The "Swansea Way"... 08:36 - Mar 19 with 6651 views | Headmaster |
...or whatever you want to call it. Will we ever see this kind of football from us again? Arsenal and West Ham recently were great to watch, but do you think we can get our style back if Carvalhal is given backing in the summer?
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 09:08 - Mar 19 with 4090 views | magicdaps10 |
Think we will only get back to it if we appoint Martinez or someone who truly believes in the total passing game.
I dont think Carvalhal gets his teams playing football in this way, not too say that his style is not right for us today.
Was reading some lovely things about Fulham and their manager on the weekend, by all accounts they are playing some lovely stuff and certain pundits think they would be more suited to the premier league than the champ.
Main priority is to stay up this season, this before we can hope to get back to passing football. Stay up and this is where the big decision comes in. |  |
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| N/A. on 09:11 - Mar 19 with 4089 views | Huw57 |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 09:08 - Mar 19 by magicdaps10 |
Think we will only get back to it if we appoint Martinez or someone who truly believes in the total passing game.
I dont think Carvalhal gets his teams playing football in this way, not too say that his style is not right for us today.
Was reading some lovely things about Fulham and their manager on the weekend, by all accounts they are playing some lovely stuff and certain pundits think they would be more suited to the premier league than the champ.
Main priority is to stay up this season, this before we can hope to get back to passing football. Stay up and this is where the big decision comes in. |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 09:27 - Mar 19 with 4055 views | magicdaps10 |
| N/A. on 09:11 - Mar 19 by Huw57 |
N/A. [Post edited 18 Jul 2018 22:41]
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Its deja vue all over again.
Guidolin, Clement and now Carlvahal. The previous two done their job and done it well but only to be let down with the sale of their two best players and then players brought in at a rush.
Two big decisions IF we stay up.
1. Do we stick with Carlos or do we get a manager who wants to play the Swansea way
2. The board need to add to what we have here NOT sell our better players. Sell the dead wood and use from that. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 11:02 - Mar 19 with 3988 views | MrSwerve |
Maybe I'm in the minority but if the results are right, then the style is right.
Can't believe we had people on here calling for us to go down to League One for a 'reset' to the squad and passing style. We haven't always played pretty football. |  |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 11:08 - Mar 19 with 3983 views | LeonWasGod |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 11:02 - Mar 19 by MrSwerve |
Maybe I'm in the minority but if the results are right, then the style is right.
Can't believe we had people on here calling for us to go down to League One for a 'reset' to the squad and passing style. We haven't always played pretty football. |
I can tolerate percentage football for results, but not for long. Monk's time being a good example - I ddi't enjoy that season despite it being our best in the PL.
Madness wanting us to go down though. |  | | |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 11:31 - Mar 19 with 3944 views | A_Fans_Dad |
I think that with the limited abilities of some of our players that we are playing a "passing game" when we can.
It is pretty disastrous to play it poorly against the likes of the top 6 teams if you just continually give away the ball. |  | | |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 12:16 - Mar 19 with 3881 views | monmouth |
We lost that Newcastle game 2-0 no? With next to no threat on goal. So I hope we don't go back to that. |  |
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| The on 13:10 - Mar 19 with 3803 views | Headmaster |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 12:16 - Mar 19 by monmouth |
We lost that Newcastle game 2-0 no? With next to no threat on goal. So I hope we don't go back to that. |
I thought we beat them 3-0, but that was a different game. Interestingly, we had 65% possession in the game we won. It really does depend on what you do with it. A combination of possession and attacking flair was superb to watch. | | | |
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| The on 13:21 - Mar 19 with 3766 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Considering many were fawning over our performance against Huddersfield (where we were outshot 30-0, 19% possession) like it was the second coming of that first half against West Bromwich, I think it's very unlikely we'll ever return to that standard of football. Why set such expectations when the majority of the fan base is fine with the sort of performances we're seeing recently away from home. [Post edited 19 Mar 2018 13:27]
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| The on 13:29 - Mar 19 with 3746 views | Dippy |
Our front three are simply not cut out for it, our fullbacks are not good enough, and our midfield apart from Ki have no idea or ability to carry it out [Post edited 19 Mar 2018 13:29]
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| The on 14:22 - Mar 19 with 3677 views | vetchonian |
| The on 13:21 - Mar 19 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Considering many were fawning over our performance against Huddersfield (where we were outshot 30-0, 19% possession) like it was the second coming of that first half against West Bromwich, I think it's very unlikely we'll ever return to that standard of football. Why set such expectations when the majority of the fan base is fine with the sort of performances we're seeing recently away from home. [Post edited 19 Mar 2018 13:27]
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Dwight give it a rest.
Nobody was fawning over the "level" of performance it was more the fact even down to 10 men we got a result...The Huddersfield game was a must not lose affair had we done so Huddersfiled would now be above us and also after last weekends results we would be back in the bottom 3.Maybe Carlos should have gone gung ho as he did at Brighton and come away with us losing by 3 or 4 goals.
I doubt if those first 45 mins agsainst WBA will ever be repeated and in fact the architect of that failed to do so again during his tenure with all the quality available to him.
What I want is to secure our PL place over the remaining games and then hope for some good recruitment in the summer....then maybe we can start to build again. Regarding Saturdays performance I am dissapointed we didnt appear to try...we may have been better plating some of the U23 if we were frightened of risking players rather than opting to not contest! | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:49 - Mar 19 with 3643 views | TheResurrection |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 09:08 - Mar 19 by magicdaps10 |
Think we will only get back to it if we appoint Martinez or someone who truly believes in the total passing game.
I dont think Carvalhal gets his teams playing football in this way, not too say that his style is not right for us today.
Was reading some lovely things about Fulham and their manager on the weekend, by all accounts they are playing some lovely stuff and certain pundits think they would be more suited to the premier league than the champ.
Main priority is to stay up this season, this before we can hope to get back to passing football. Stay up and this is where the big decision comes in. |
And there's no one out there that would be guaranteed to get that decision right
Same as it was with Guido, same with Clement. It's also not as easy as to say keep our best players, it's facking embarrassing to keep reading that bullshit. Every player that wants to go pretty much does, no matter what team you support. You have to understand this or you'll keep on making a fool of yourself.
It's a balancing act of quite some degree and a lot of luck is needed along the way.
Let's put this to you right now. You are the Chairman, this is your scenario, what would YOU do?
Carlos keeps us up but Martinez is available and would come back.
Mawson hands in a transfer request.
I know all you do all day and every day is play that Manager game on your play station but come on, let's hear a case, a plausible and realistic case for what decisions you'd make. |  |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:54 - Mar 19 with 3633 views | TheResurrection |
And you all need to learn this also.
It's not the Swansea Way, it's never been the Swansea Way.
It was Martinez' Way or Rodgers Way, or Laudrup's Way so in other words the Managers Way.
If any of you think that if any club in this league appoints a manager because they play this way AND that it would guarantee success, then you've got another think coming.
It really isn't as simple as that. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:59 - Mar 19 with 3619 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 09:08 - Mar 19 by magicdaps10 |
Think we will only get back to it if we appoint Martinez or someone who truly believes in the total passing game.
I dont think Carvalhal gets his teams playing football in this way, not too say that his style is not right for us today.
Was reading some lovely things about Fulham and their manager on the weekend, by all accounts they are playing some lovely stuff and certain pundits think they would be more suited to the premier league than the champ.
Main priority is to stay up this season, this before we can hope to get back to passing football. Stay up and this is where the big decision comes in. |
Martinez came in when we were in league one, and signed players which suited the way he wanted to play down to the ground. For me, he pretty much changed our whole way of play within a season, scouting unknown players along with Reeves from abroad and we worked our way up through league one and the championship using the same philosophy. Martinez worked miracles if you ask me.
On the flipside thouugh, it couldn't happen now, we haven't got the playing staff to play in the way he would want, and he wouldn't be given the time needed now we are in the Premier League, too much money at stake. |  | | |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 15:07 - Mar 19 with 3603 views | magicdaps10 |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:59 - Mar 19 by 34dfgdf54 |
Martinez came in when we were in league one, and signed players which suited the way he wanted to play down to the ground. For me, he pretty much changed our whole way of play within a season, scouting unknown players along with Reeves from abroad and we worked our way up through league one and the championship using the same philosophy. Martinez worked miracles if you ask me.
On the flipside thouugh, it couldn't happen now, we haven't got the playing staff to play in the way he would want, and he wouldn't be given the time needed now we are in the Premier League, too much money at stake. |
Top post.
The Premier league will not give you any margin of error and any mistake will gobble you up and spit you out. It is paramount that mistakes that are made are not made again........this is the worrying thing at our club at present.
Survival is the main objective in the premier league and any total change of style would realistically need to be made in the Championship, it can be done in the Premier league with the right mind set and for me, we dont have the right mind set at the club. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 15:08 - Mar 19 with 3604 views | vetchonian |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:49 - Mar 19 by TheResurrection |
And there's no one out there that would be guaranteed to get that decision right
Same as it was with Guido, same with Clement. It's also not as easy as to say keep our best players, it's facking embarrassing to keep reading that bullshit. Every player that wants to go pretty much does, no matter what team you support. You have to understand this or you'll keep on making a fool of yourself.
It's a balancing act of quite some degree and a lot of luck is needed along the way.
Let's put this to you right now. You are the Chairman, this is your scenario, what would YOU do?
Carlos keeps us up but Martinez is available and would come back.
Mawson hands in a transfer request.
I know all you do all day and every day is play that Manager game on your play station but come on, let's hear a case, a plausible and realistic case for what decisions you'd make. |
OK I'll bite
Firstly Martinez would not be recruitrd as he has failed at PL level...my view as chairman (and hopefully the real present incumbant ) is that whilst thankful for putting us on the road he isnt the manager we now need and put sentiment away
Hopefully as chairman seeing how Alfie has been developing and the potential of interest in him form top clubs I would have already have several targets in mind for replacing him but also trying to do do a deal to retasin him....and by the way a request does not have to be agreed to..maybe discuss doing the deal in January to allow a replacement to be brought in etc.If he wants to throw his dummy out of the pram it wont help him! | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:04 - Mar 19 with 3530 views | swanforthemoney |
Given our limited resources compared to the rest of the Premier League, I'm not sure we could recruit the quality to play 'the Swansea Way' and win matches.
It was always a bit of a myth anyway, wasnt it? We could be bloody awful at times playing the passing game, especially if someone came and shut up shop against us.
Carlos will do just fine for the time being. He has a spark about him even though we are often dull away from home. |  |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:14 - Mar 19 with 3503 views | magicdaps10 |
Whatever way we decide to go, IF we stay up then the summer has to see some positivity from the board.
I dont think the fans or the manager deserve a third summer of groundhog day. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:15 - Mar 19 with 3501 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:49 - Mar 19 by TheResurrection |
And there's no one out there that would be guaranteed to get that decision right
Same as it was with Guido, same with Clement. It's also not as easy as to say keep our best players, it's facking embarrassing to keep reading that bullshit. Every player that wants to go pretty much does, no matter what team you support. You have to understand this or you'll keep on making a fool of yourself.
It's a balancing act of quite some degree and a lot of luck is needed along the way.
Let's put this to you right now. You are the Chairman, this is your scenario, what would YOU do?
Carlos keeps us up but Martinez is available and would come back.
Mawson hands in a transfer request.
I know all you do all day and every day is play that Manager game on your play station but come on, let's hear a case, a plausible and realistic case for what decisions you'd make. |
That's a good question.
You should make it:
Carlos keeps us up.
The owners make £30m available plus whatever we can generate.
Manager and squad - what would you do. | | | |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:27 - Mar 19 with 3480 views | oldgrey |
The problem with the "Swansea Way" as played under Martinez and others, is eventually you get found out and teams set up to confound it.
During the early period we were one of the few teams playing that beautiful football and constantly baffled the lower league cloggers.
As the style became more familiar, other teams either adopted it wholesale or adopted a game plan to negate it.
Certainly, in the EPL today no manager is going to allow another team time to ponce around playing flamenco football.
Football moves on
I like Carvahal because he genuinly seems to be looking for a new playing style. Not always pretty, but hopefully effective. | | | |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:47 - Mar 19 with 3435 views | magicdaps10 |
He has adapted the 3-5-2 system to add a bit more fluidity in the middle of the park too suit the players at his diposle.
The holder, muscle and the forward runner on the left, the second striker drops back in support of the right wing back.....very very clever.
When you think 3-5-2, you always think a 3 man line in midfield, one possibly being the attacking option. The system he has the team playing takes hell of a lot of discipline and organisation in the middle of the park. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:49 - Mar 19 with 3429 views | Dr_Winston |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 14:49 - Mar 19 by TheResurrection |
And there's no one out there that would be guaranteed to get that decision right
Same as it was with Guido, same with Clement. It's also not as easy as to say keep our best players, it's facking embarrassing to keep reading that bullshit. Every player that wants to go pretty much does, no matter what team you support. You have to understand this or you'll keep on making a fool of yourself.
It's a balancing act of quite some degree and a lot of luck is needed along the way.
Let's put this to you right now. You are the Chairman, this is your scenario, what would YOU do?
Carlos keeps us up but Martinez is available and would come back.
Mawson hands in a transfer request.
I know all you do all day and every day is play that Manager game on your play station but come on, let's hear a case, a plausible and realistic case for what decisions you'd make. |
Sell Mawson but only at a comparable price to comparable players.
Tell Martinez to f*ck off. |  |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 20:56 - Mar 19 with 3271 views | TheResurrection |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 17:49 - Mar 19 by Dr_Winston |
Sell Mawson but only at a comparable price to comparable players.
Tell Martinez to f*ck off. |
Ha. Well it didn't have to be Martinez although if you believed some he was touted to come back in the Summer.
Use Rodgers instead then. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 21:18 - Mar 19 with 3243 views | Dr_Winston |
Honest answer is I'd keep Carvalhal. For the same reasons I advocated keeping both Guidolin and Clement. He's earned the right to start a season on an even keel given the job he's done since he took over. | |
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| The "Swansea Way"... on 21:58 - Mar 19 with 3203 views | MrSwerve |
| The "Swansea Way"... on 21:18 - Mar 19 by Dr_Winston |
Honest answer is I'd keep Carvalhal. For the same reasons I advocated keeping both Guidolin and Clement. He's earned the right to start a season on an even keel given the job he's done since he took over. |
Yep, the turnaround has been unbelievable. Especially if he manages to get us safe with games to spare.
It would be insane to let him go. | |
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