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The Wrong Strikers 18:42 - Jul 29 with 6897 viewsWestbourneR

Ollie seems absolutely convinced that Washington is our best striker and that he needs a partner so he gives him Matt Smith. We seem to be set up tactically primarily for the benefit of Washington.

Now, I agree that Washington needs a partner but I'm just not sure he's worth the investment of minutes and tactics we're putting in. He's just not good enough to build our plan A around.

I think Sylla is the best striker at the club. I'm pretty sure his strike is better than either Washington's or Smith's - and yet he doesn't start.

I think Smith is handy and was clearly cheap, so I'd keep - but I'd move Washington on if we could recoup near to our fee. I see Nakhi Wells is available from Huddersfield...

Poll: Should JFH get the sack?

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The Wrong Strikers on 15:19 - Jul 30 with 1906 viewsTacticalR

The Wrong Strikers on 15:04 - Jul 30 by francisbowles

I agree that Sylla is our best forward. He just needs to toughen up a bit to Championship football and stop looking at the ref when he falls over. Just get up and get on with it!


Nobody does exasperation, misery and despair like Sylla. Every time he gets tackled he looks like the whole world is against him.

Air hostess clique

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The Wrong Strikers on 15:25 - Jul 30 with 1893 viewsSpaghetti_Hoops

The Wrong Strikers on 15:04 - Jul 30 by francisbowles

I agree that Sylla is our best forward. He just needs to toughen up a bit to Championship football and stop looking at the ref when he falls over. Just get up and get on with it!


Everything points to Sylla being the best option. Much the best goals/minutes ratio. Able to fend for himself up front. Suited by 4-3-3 hopefully with Wszolek on the right and Ngbakoto on the left. Plenty of crosses.
Ollie and fans should stop finding things not to like about Sylla and accept the blee*ing obvious.
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The Wrong Strikers on 15:34 - Jul 30 with 1879 viewsWrightUp5hit___

Thought he did well yesterday and to me, looked like he was trying to counter Ollies alleged main dislike of him, showing he was willing to chase things down.

Interesting to see Birch giving him a big hug after the game and both looking pleased.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:28 - Jul 30 with 1819 viewsNeil_SI

The Wrong Strikers on 08:01 - Jul 30 by davman

Unfortunately "playing to their strengths" for Matt Smith is pumping it long, letting him flick it on to the other striker (who isn't here yet), who can anticipate and run on to it. Washington doesn't appear to have that ability to anticipate that Smith is going to win the ball and where he is going to put it.

At least when Sylla is the focal point, he tries to maintain possession - just look how many times he tries to take it down on his chest rather than just flick it on. Yet another reason he has to be picked ahead of the very, very willing, but extremely limited Matt Smith.

Training Sylla to play the lone role bringing in willing runners like Yeni and Freeman from deep is an equally good option (maybe better) to giving Washington and Smith a run of games together to forge a partnership.


So, there are plenty of ways to improve on what you’ve just said. One, is obviously trying to work on Smith’s knock down’s from whenever we pump it long up the pitch. That’s rudimentary but can be effective, and there’s no reason why Washington or anybody else can’t be coached into going into predictable areas. But, this also means that the balls into Smith have to be played with more care, so that he himself can have a better say on where the flick on or knock down goes. And for me, in this scenario, it wouldn’t just be about Washington. Other players from midfield have to know when to join in support or burst beyond too.

But, that’s not playing to Smith’s strengths or our own. A better way to do this ball is to have Smith peel off from a central position with a diagonal run, which forces a diagonal ball to be played into him at an angle that allows him to dominate more easily and see exactly where he’s going to knock it down and in a more inviting fashion. Think of it this way - he does very well if he peels off to the angle of the penalty box and knocks it downwards into the box or in parallel to oncoming players, and if we played that ball more often, the players will know where he’s trying to get his flick on to and can support with more predictability. It’s about margins with Smith, and using him for what he is the best of our ability. For me, the way we utilised Smith last season was the responsibility of the coaching staff to sort out.

In addition, Smith actually is excellent at winning headers in the box around the six yard area, so, as has been suggested elsewhere, if we get the ball wide and get it into the box, there’s a high chance he will challenge. He’s missed a lot of chances that he probably should have done better with, but he’s also scored a few too and therefore because he is getting on the end of things in these areas it makes a lot more sense to continue to try and feed him. In the case of Sylla, we have two players who are good from crosses into these areas of the pitch, so playing to our strengths means creating opportunities for overloaded down the wides and crossing early balls into the box and in an area where these two are likely to attack.

Washington’s strengths are still on t‪he counter attack, where he can use his pace and ability to run with the ball to take defenders on or latch onto things. He can still adapt other areas of his game to make him more useful in more tactical scenarios.

I think there’s a lot of room for improvement in Sylla as a lone striker and ‘focal point’. There are too many times when he’s flat footed and beaten by hefty centre backs looking to make their mark, but Sylla has the strength to cope, so hopefully he’s going to show that he’s started to adapt to the expectations and style of the league in that sense. I do agree he has tried to get the ball under control with his chest a lot, but he’s often been unsuccessful even if he tried, and again, that may just be down to fitness, sharpness, and still taking time to settl‪e in. Just like the others, he deserves an opportunity to show he can make progression.

In the end, all I’m saying is that these players have it in them to get better and improve, and that’s what the coaching staff need to work on. If they do make some of these small improvements, they’ll be better players and we’ll benefit from that. It’s open to debate whether their improvement will be enough to satisfy the masses, but for me, just seeing players improve would be enough to convince me that we’re moving in the right direction. You can still hold that view, even if you also hold the view that they may not quite be up to the consistent standard desired, even if they do improve, but would still signal progress.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:31 - Jul 30 with 1814 viewsrsonist

If I had the strength to laugh any more I'd find it a cute irony that we've gone from starf*cker managers like Hughes and Redknapp who let mercenaries get away with murder to one in Ollie who is such a hardcore populist identity politician that we now bemoan how he won't give good lazy mavericks space to breathe.

I agree we're overplaying Smith, and that Sylla and Yeni are getting a relatively bum deal, but the fact is that if we can only offer alternative £10m suggestions like Wells then that proves we're in no position to say any of them are "not good enough". As Neil says, "this is more about how much time and patience we’re willing to afford" and for many it seems an attitude adjustment is still required.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:34 - Jul 30 with 1811 viewsSpaghetti_Hoops

The Wrong Strikers on 16:28 - Jul 30 by Neil_SI

So, there are plenty of ways to improve on what you’ve just said. One, is obviously trying to work on Smith’s knock down’s from whenever we pump it long up the pitch. That’s rudimentary but can be effective, and there’s no reason why Washington or anybody else can’t be coached into going into predictable areas. But, this also means that the balls into Smith have to be played with more care, so that he himself can have a better say on where the flick on or knock down goes. And for me, in this scenario, it wouldn’t just be about Washington. Other players from midfield have to know when to join in support or burst beyond too.

But, that’s not playing to Smith’s strengths or our own. A better way to do this ball is to have Smith peel off from a central position with a diagonal run, which forces a diagonal ball to be played into him at an angle that allows him to dominate more easily and see exactly where he’s going to knock it down and in a more inviting fashion. Think of it this way - he does very well if he peels off to the angle of the penalty box and knocks it downwards into the box or in parallel to oncoming players, and if we played that ball more often, the players will know where he’s trying to get his flick on to and can support with more predictability. It’s about margins with Smith, and using him for what he is the best of our ability. For me, the way we utilised Smith last season was the responsibility of the coaching staff to sort out.

In addition, Smith actually is excellent at winning headers in the box around the six yard area, so, as has been suggested elsewhere, if we get the ball wide and get it into the box, there’s a high chance he will challenge. He’s missed a lot of chances that he probably should have done better with, but he’s also scored a few too and therefore because he is getting on the end of things in these areas it makes a lot more sense to continue to try and feed him. In the case of Sylla, we have two players who are good from crosses into these areas of the pitch, so playing to our strengths means creating opportunities for overloaded down the wides and crossing early balls into the box and in an area where these two are likely to attack.

Washington’s strengths are still on t‪he counter attack, where he can use his pace and ability to run with the ball to take defenders on or latch onto things. He can still adapt other areas of his game to make him more useful in more tactical scenarios.

I think there’s a lot of room for improvement in Sylla as a lone striker and ‘focal point’. There are too many times when he’s flat footed and beaten by hefty centre backs looking to make their mark, but Sylla has the strength to cope, so hopefully he’s going to show that he’s started to adapt to the expectations and style of the league in that sense. I do agree he has tried to get the ball under control with his chest a lot, but he’s often been unsuccessful even if he tried, and again, that may just be down to fitness, sharpness, and still taking time to settl‪e in. Just like the others, he deserves an opportunity to show he can make progression.

In the end, all I’m saying is that these players have it in them to get better and improve, and that’s what the coaching staff need to work on. If they do make some of these small improvements, they’ll be better players and we’ll benefit from that. It’s open to debate whether their improvement will be enough to satisfy the masses, but for me, just seeing players improve would be enough to convince me that we’re moving in the right direction. You can still hold that view, even if you also hold the view that they may not quite be up to the consistent standard desired, even if they do improve, but would still signal progress.


If only!

Having watched Washington for a year and a half he has probably gone backwards and will continue to do so.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:47 - Jul 30 with 1778 viewsNeil_SI

The Wrong Strikers on 16:34 - Jul 30 by Spaghetti_Hoops

If only!

Having watched Washington for a year and a half he has probably gone backwards and will continue to do so.


When he arrived, I didn’t think he was anywhere near the standard for Championship level and more raw than I ancitipated he would be for the money we spent. My hunch is, he’s not quite at the level even now, but he has scored goals, and all it might take it one or two important goals to be the catalyst for him to make the next steps.

But, believe me, as someone who is a harsh critic of him, he has improved, even if it’s only by a small amount. When he first arrived, he really struggled to maintain possession of the ball, and he seldom managed to execute what he had in his mind when he got on the ball.

That has changed a lot towards the back end of last season. He is maintaining possession and not losing it just a little bit better than before. So, I can see signs, although I can’t be sure that this was down to a lack of quality, confidence or fitness (and thus timing and anticipation being adversely affected).

You have to accept that if you buy players from lower leagues, they’re going to need time to make the adjustments necessary to make the step up, especially with a player who transitioned from non-league as quickly as Washington has done. It’s absolutely normal and they need time, patience and space to find their feet. That includes accepting periods of form and performances that are not at the level you hope, it’s part of the development process.

We also have to try and assess fairly. Washington never had a full pre-season under his belt, and was often played out of position and in wide areas. When you’re asking a player in his predicament to take a step up, you need to help him out and not make it a mountain for him to climb, and unfortunately we have with him (and other players) and that has very much been a case of shooting ourselves in the foot.

It’s easy to destroy confidence with basic mistakes, and we’ve done that with a few of our own and hindered their chance to fulfil their potential. Having said that, I didn’t think Washington was as lean as he could be last season, and again, that might be down to the lack of pre-season, or it could be that he’s not made the necessary adjustments to dieting and fitness needed, having come up the ranks so quickly from non-league.

There are lots of variables at play. In the end, he seems like a really nice guy who wants to work hard and try to make it work for himself, and that attitude alone deserves our backing and support.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:49 - Jul 30 with 1769 viewsflynnbo

The Wrong Strikers on 22:47 - Jul 29 by daveB

I don't mind Smith, a half decent target man but Washington always seems a second behind play which means he is very slow to react to anything.

Would agree Sylla looked good today but was getting slaughtered by a few fans in the second half, mot sure why


Because we have a few loudmouth racist fans who have cottoned on to Ollie's demands for hard graft at the expense of skill. I've noticed it in the Lower Loft on several occasions and they prefer the "hardworking" Mat Smith. Unbelievable, our "fans" sometimes.
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The Wrong Strikers on 16:53 - Jul 30 with 1752 viewsted_hendrix

Shame Sir Les can't teach our 'strikers' a thing or two take them for a few training sessions

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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The Wrong Strikers on 17:00 - Jul 30 with 1738 viewsSpaghetti_Hoops

The Wrong Strikers on 16:47 - Jul 30 by Neil_SI

When he arrived, I didn’t think he was anywhere near the standard for Championship level and more raw than I ancitipated he would be for the money we spent. My hunch is, he’s not quite at the level even now, but he has scored goals, and all it might take it one or two important goals to be the catalyst for him to make the next steps.

But, believe me, as someone who is a harsh critic of him, he has improved, even if it’s only by a small amount. When he first arrived, he really struggled to maintain possession of the ball, and he seldom managed to execute what he had in his mind when he got on the ball.

That has changed a lot towards the back end of last season. He is maintaining possession and not losing it just a little bit better than before. So, I can see signs, although I can’t be sure that this was down to a lack of quality, confidence or fitness (and thus timing and anticipation being adversely affected).

You have to accept that if you buy players from lower leagues, they’re going to need time to make the adjustments necessary to make the step up, especially with a player who transitioned from non-league as quickly as Washington has done. It’s absolutely normal and they need time, patience and space to find their feet. That includes accepting periods of form and performances that are not at the level you hope, it’s part of the development process.

We also have to try and assess fairly. Washington never had a full pre-season under his belt, and was often played out of position and in wide areas. When you’re asking a player in his predicament to take a step up, you need to help him out and not make it a mountain for him to climb, and unfortunately we have with him (and other players) and that has very much been a case of shooting ourselves in the foot.

It’s easy to destroy confidence with basic mistakes, and we’ve done that with a few of our own and hindered their chance to fulfil their potential. Having said that, I didn’t think Washington was as lean as he could be last season, and again, that might be down to the lack of pre-season, or it could be that he’s not made the necessary adjustments to dieting and fitness needed, having come up the ranks so quickly from non-league.

There are lots of variables at play. In the end, he seems like a really nice guy who wants to work hard and try to make it work for himself, and that attitude alone deserves our backing and support.


Thoughful but deluded.
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The Wrong Strikers on 17:11 - Jul 30 with 1724 viewsparker64

The Wrong Strikers on 16:53 - Jul 30 by ted_hendrix

Shame Sir Les can't teach our 'strikers' a thing or two take them for a few training sessions


I'm sure Paul Furlong could give Matt Smith some tips about hold up play too - how to use your body to control and shield the ball. He's 28 years old now and for such a big bloke it's surprising this part of his game isn't stronger than it is.
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The Wrong Strikers on 18:06 - Jul 30 with 1648 viewsAntti_Heinola

The Wrong Strikers on 17:00 - Jul 30 by Spaghetti_Hoops

Thoughful but deluded.


Not sure anyone on here is in a position to patronise Neil like that. Unnecessarily rude response to, as you say yourself, a thoughtful post.
He's also right. Six goals from the end of Jan to the end of the season - plus two that inarguably crossed the line but weren't given - is clearly an improvement on his previous 12 months at the club. He looked a different player in his Jan-Feb purple patch, but then seemed to regrettably take a step back when Ollie started resting him.
I don't think anyone thinks he's going to be a 25-goal-a-season striker. But if he works hard and the coaching staff work hard, he could be capable of getting 15. I certainly expect him to improve on his 9 in all comps last season.

Bare bones.

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The Wrong Strikers on 18:21 - Jul 30 with 1617 viewsbeanofire1

We may hve 'the wrong strikers', but, they are all we have got and we are in a position where we are suddenly going to find millions to improve that situation.
So - was a fans can either get behind our players, because we know it's going to be tough and we know their faults, or we can rip into them if we lose.
The coaching team have to try & ring every ounce of quality and try to improve what we have. The days of splashing the cash are at an end. Not that it worked anyway.

'I knw I ain't doing much........but doing nothing means a lot to me.'

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The Wrong Strikers on 18:31 - Jul 30 with 1594 viewsdavman

The Wrong Strikers on 17:11 - Jul 30 by parker64

I'm sure Paul Furlong could give Matt Smith some tips about hold up play too - how to use your body to control and shield the ball. He's 28 years old now and for such a big bloke it's surprising this part of his game isn't stronger than it is.


The irony is that Sylla could do that too. ..

Can we go out yet?
Poll: What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month?

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The Wrong Strikers on 18:41 - Jul 30 with 1576 viewsHadders

Would anyone else give Emmanuel-Thomas a chance? The last gasp match-winning goal at 51 secs was my highlight of that season, yet shortly after scoring it, if my memory serves me well, he disappeared (I suggest watching this with the sound down, for reasons which will immediately become apparent if you don't).

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The Wrong Strikers on 18:46 - Jul 30 with 1561 viewsbeanofire1

The Wrong Strikers on 18:41 - Jul 30 by Hadders

Would anyone else give Emmanuel-Thomas a chance? The last gasp match-winning goal at 51 secs was my highlight of that season, yet shortly after scoring it, if my memory serves me well, he disappeared (I suggest watching this with the sound down, for reasons which will immediately become apparent if you don't).

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It's not, if we would, it's obvious that Ollie has pretty much ruled him out. And to be fair, we need players who even if they are having a stinker, are at least putting a shift in. I never saw Jet do that.

'I knw I ain't doing much........but doing nothing means a lot to me.'

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The Wrong Strikers on 19:42 - Jul 30 with 1511 viewsWatford_Ranger

The Wrong Strikers on 18:41 - Jul 30 by Hadders

Would anyone else give Emmanuel-Thomas a chance? The last gasp match-winning goal at 51 secs was my highlight of that season, yet shortly after scoring it, if my memory serves me well, he disappeared (I suggest watching this with the sound down, for reasons which will immediately become apparent if you don't).

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He's a mere personality transplant away from being a Premier League striker but until that happens he's barely good enough for Barnet.

Gillingham fans thought he was George Best after six games. After 26 he'd been bombed out- again.
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The Wrong Strikers on 10:28 - Jul 31 with 1355 viewsNeil_SI

The Wrong Strikers on 18:06 - Jul 30 by Antti_Heinola

Not sure anyone on here is in a position to patronise Neil like that. Unnecessarily rude response to, as you say yourself, a thoughtful post.
He's also right. Six goals from the end of Jan to the end of the season - plus two that inarguably crossed the line but weren't given - is clearly an improvement on his previous 12 months at the club. He looked a different player in his Jan-Feb purple patch, but then seemed to regrettably take a step back when Ollie started resting him.
I don't think anyone thinks he's going to be a 25-goal-a-season striker. But if he works hard and the coaching staff work hard, he could be capable of getting 15. I certainly expect him to improve on his 9 in all comps last season.


This is pretty much why I’ve stopped posting so much.

The QPR community and forums used to be a great place to discuss and share thoughts and views with likeminded Rangers fans, but these days, you tend to get snide, ratty and disrespectful remarks in response.

If you can’t have a reasoned chat with your own set of supporters, you end up asking yourself “what’s the point?”...

I’ve never really understood why some post so negatively or disrespectfully of their own team, their own players and their fellow fans. But, it happens and is the way of the world.

I’ve said this in the past, you’d never treat your own like that, someone in your family or whatever, and QPR has (used to) been like that for me since I was a kid. Family. And so I try to treat it so, or try to think about, “What if this player was my kid out there?”.

But, back to the football, you’ve put it perfectly Antti. Challenge the player to do better than they did before. Getting into double figures is an obvious and good goal to aim for in Washington’s case, and if he hit 9 last season when he wasn’t always in the side along with his deficiencies, then he can do that again and more.

There are plenty of players that have challenges that are achievable, and if they do, then we’ll be better than we were. Even if players rise to some challenges but don’t hit the heights we’d like, it’s still increasing their value, so in the event they are moved on, they are more attractive to offload. We have to look at these things from all angles and perspectives.
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The Wrong Strikers on 10:48 - Jul 31 with 1315 viewsHarbour

Reality check we have no money got to live with players we have plus the odd loan think we the supporters need to get behind the team including the strikers to try and build some confidence..Slagging them off going to achieve nothing and will see performances drop. If we can get a few goals from other areas will help and we have players who can step up here.
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The Wrong Strikers on 10:53 - Jul 31 with 1300 viewsDorse

The Wrong Strikers on 10:28 - Jul 31 by Neil_SI

This is pretty much why I’ve stopped posting so much.

The QPR community and forums used to be a great place to discuss and share thoughts and views with likeminded Rangers fans, but these days, you tend to get snide, ratty and disrespectful remarks in response.

If you can’t have a reasoned chat with your own set of supporters, you end up asking yourself “what’s the point?”...

I’ve never really understood why some post so negatively or disrespectfully of their own team, their own players and their fellow fans. But, it happens and is the way of the world.

I’ve said this in the past, you’d never treat your own like that, someone in your family or whatever, and QPR has (used to) been like that for me since I was a kid. Family. And so I try to treat it so, or try to think about, “What if this player was my kid out there?”.

But, back to the football, you’ve put it perfectly Antti. Challenge the player to do better than they did before. Getting into double figures is an obvious and good goal to aim for in Washington’s case, and if he hit 9 last season when he wasn’t always in the side along with his deficiencies, then he can do that again and more.

There are plenty of players that have challenges that are achievable, and if they do, then we’ll be better than we were. Even if players rise to some challenges but don’t hit the heights we’d like, it’s still increasing their value, so in the event they are moved on, they are more attractive to offload. We have to look at these things from all angles and perspectives.


I think you've pretty much nailed it as far as Washington goes.

Je suis un clapet heureux, granted, but I still have high hopes for Washington. His head never drops and he seems to want to execute a high press far more than, say, Sylla. Someone in another thread mentioned the idea of playing to feet and starting with Yeni and Washington: Lord knows if that would work but it might be fun.

For what it's worth, I have always been a fan of the diagonal through-ball. Played as an inside out ball between CB and FB, they are bloody difficult to defend against. If the striker makes their run forcing the CB to turn, the CB is always under pressure to avoid giving the foul. Their CBs are split and it brings the attacking midfield into play. Washington has the nous to play that way, especially if he is on the shoulder of the defender. I get the impression that Yeni has it in his locker too.

'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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The Wrong Strikers on 12:04 - Jul 31 with 1263 viewsWeaverQPR

I think Emmanuel Lardarse would prob still score more than Washington if given a go

@WeavQPR

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The Wrong Strikers on 14:53 - Aug 1 with 1156 viewswhittocksRs

Up front to me is really the one place we desperately needed to strengthen this window to guarantee staying up and I worry we'll really struggle with the players we've got. If the midfeild chipped in with more it wouldn't be such a problem, but Luongo hasn't added goals to his game, Yeni is inconsistent, Holloway doesn't fancy El Khayati, and Freeman, Manning, Borsyiuk and Hall all lie too deep to make meaningful differences.

The market has obviously priced us out of a decent British striker, and finding one on the continent isn't easy. I'm not sure it's all our own fault, though it doesn't seem — from the outside — that we've even tracked anyone particularly hard.

So we have to work with what we have. Like Neil says, we need each of our forwards to look at incremental improvements in terms of gameplay and goals.

Washington, Sylla and Smith should all aim at 15 and we can be pleased with 10-12 each. If one can go nearer 20 (unlikely) we can assume that'll equal a reasonable number of wins. The three of them should also be looking at improving their play elsewhere, and encouraging the midfield get forwards and chip in.

Then we have to hope Lynch, Ned and Perch can do, say, 10 between them.

If we can score 60+ goals we should stay up, providing the defence isn't horrible.
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The Wrong Strikers on 15:09 - Aug 1 with 1136 viewsdanehoop

I was just wondering whether we might see more of Eze this season? Maybe a little early, but I reckon that he has something about him which makes me think he might be a very good player for us.

Never knowingly understood

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The Wrong Strikers on 15:20 - Aug 1 with 1119 viewspaulparker

The Wrong Strikers on 14:53 - Aug 1 by whittocksRs

Up front to me is really the one place we desperately needed to strengthen this window to guarantee staying up and I worry we'll really struggle with the players we've got. If the midfeild chipped in with more it wouldn't be such a problem, but Luongo hasn't added goals to his game, Yeni is inconsistent, Holloway doesn't fancy El Khayati, and Freeman, Manning, Borsyiuk and Hall all lie too deep to make meaningful differences.

The market has obviously priced us out of a decent British striker, and finding one on the continent isn't easy. I'm not sure it's all our own fault, though it doesn't seem — from the outside — that we've even tracked anyone particularly hard.

So we have to work with what we have. Like Neil says, we need each of our forwards to look at incremental improvements in terms of gameplay and goals.

Washington, Sylla and Smith should all aim at 15 and we can be pleased with 10-12 each. If one can go nearer 20 (unlikely) we can assume that'll equal a reasonable number of wins. The three of them should also be looking at improving their play elsewhere, and encouraging the midfield get forwards and chip in.

Then we have to hope Lynch, Ned and Perch can do, say, 10 between them.

If we can score 60+ goals we should stay up, providing the defence isn't horrible.


id say at the back as well , Lynch, Bidwell & Perch are simply not good enough for this level especially since Olly is now sticking to 3-5-2 , we need 2 pacy fullbacks to play this way , we also need a CB to play with Hall & Ned
its a scandal that 3 years on and we still haven't replaced Danny Simpson
as for the strikers yes we need a goal scorer but the way the transfer & loan market is we simply cannot compete , unless of course we look abroad or the conference then again Fulham have just bought a fella from France for nearly 6 million same as Bristol city , its getting value for money that's the problem
if Olly could just work some magic on Sylla we could have a 10 million pound player on our hands , Washington is a grafter I like him he never gives up and that's what we want from our players , I don't get the stick he gets , look at the work rate last year at Newcastle away, he grafted us that first goal
Smith I would use as a sub if we are losing and need a plan B he can be a right handful if we play with wingers and balls in the box , in a 3-5-2 its a waste of time playing him
for me I would go down the Yenni/Sylla partnership both are unpredictable , both could I think strike up a decent partnership , Yenni has a hell of a shot on him , for me what's disappointed me most through the Olly faffing around is that we never tried these 2 out as a partnership give these 2 five games at least to forge something, if it doesn't work it doesn't work but at least we gave it a go , also Sylla and Eze could be again a decent strike force , both pacy and both a handful
as fans we have to be realistic , its going to be a tough old season for us , if we go down we go down , I think the way the championship is going a stint in league one wouldn't be the end of the world

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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The Wrong Strikers on 15:32 - Aug 1 with 1099 viewskensalriser

The Wrong Strikers on 10:28 - Jul 31 by Neil_SI

This is pretty much why I’ve stopped posting so much.

The QPR community and forums used to be a great place to discuss and share thoughts and views with likeminded Rangers fans, but these days, you tend to get snide, ratty and disrespectful remarks in response.

If you can’t have a reasoned chat with your own set of supporters, you end up asking yourself “what’s the point?”...

I’ve never really understood why some post so negatively or disrespectfully of their own team, their own players and their fellow fans. But, it happens and is the way of the world.

I’ve said this in the past, you’d never treat your own like that, someone in your family or whatever, and QPR has (used to) been like that for me since I was a kid. Family. And so I try to treat it so, or try to think about, “What if this player was my kid out there?”.

But, back to the football, you’ve put it perfectly Antti. Challenge the player to do better than they did before. Getting into double figures is an obvious and good goal to aim for in Washington’s case, and if he hit 9 last season when he wasn’t always in the side along with his deficiencies, then he can do that again and more.

There are plenty of players that have challenges that are achievable, and if they do, then we’ll be better than we were. Even if players rise to some challenges but don’t hit the heights we’d like, it’s still increasing their value, so in the event they are moved on, they are more attractive to offload. We have to look at these things from all angles and perspectives.


Your posts are always a good read, Neil. Even when I don't necessarily agree with what you say there's always plenty to ponder as you look at the game in a far more analytical way than I do.

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