| We beat Everton we stay up 15:37 - Apr 30 with 8384 views | rock1n |
It's a massive game - great effort from the lads since the yank disaster |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:38 - Apr 30 with 5218 views | magicdaps10 |
Bang on, I believe also if we beat them then we will stay up.
Big ask and big effort. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:38 - Apr 30 with 5220 views | STID2017 |
Even if we do, still so much to do, but honestly believe we have the bottle to do it now. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:44 - Apr 30 with 5177 views | rock1n |
That would take us to 35 id fancy us to win another and maybe a point 39 points with potentially better goal difference that would be enough I think | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:46 - Apr 30 with 5153 views | LeonWasGod |
Unless Hull beat whoever they're playing. Today feels like a loss to me. Still got hell of a lot to do. |  | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:49 - Apr 30 with 5129 views | rock1n |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:46 - Apr 30 by LeonWasGod |
Unless Hull beat whoever they're playing. Today feels like a loss to me. Still got hell of a lot to do. |
Put it this way if we got relegated on 39 points that would be really harsh
The other possibility is we get 9 points and finish with 41 that would definitively be enough | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:54 - Apr 30 with 5061 views | union_jack |
Win all three and we stay up. Simple as that. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:55 - Apr 30 with 5049 views | shandyjack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:54 - Apr 30 by union_jack |
Win all three and we stay up. Simple as that. |
not if Hull win all 3 |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:56 - Apr 30 with 5049 views | rock1n |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:54 - Apr 30 by union_jack |
Win all three and we stay up. Simple as that. |
The point I'm making as you allude to is that it's in our hands.
I would have snapped your hands off with the turn of events at Christmas | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:00 - Apr 30 with 4998 views | STID2017 |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:55 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
not if Hull win all 3 |
If we win the next three we have 41 points.
If one of :
Leicester
Stoke
Watford
Burnley
West Ham
Crystal Palace
Hull
lose all their games we stay up - not over by any means | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:03 - Apr 30 with 4965 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:56 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
The point I'm making as you allude to is that it's in our hands.
I would have snapped your hands off with the turn of events at Christmas |
Not getting this at all. I do admire the positivity but we have to remian realistic.
If we beat Everton then we may well br in exactly the same position as we are now. Hull could quite easily beat Sunderland. Even if we do drag ourselves out of the zone with a win, there is still a huge amount if work to do.
It is the opposite of being in our own hands by the very definition of the fact we need others to drop points in order for us to go above them. If they win their remaining 3 then they survive, if we accept its possible for us to do it, then so can they. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:03 - Apr 30 with 4960 views | shandyjack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:00 - Apr 30 by STID2017 |
If we win the next three we have 41 points.
If one of :
Leicester
Stoke
Watford
Burnley
West Ham
Crystal Palace
Hull
lose all their games we stay up - not over by any means |
not over but very unlikley | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:04 - Apr 30 with 4937 views | KulusBeatFactory |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:56 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
The point I'm making as you allude to is that it's in our hands.
I would have snapped your hands off with the turn of events at Christmas |
indeed - warra turnaround - and we're playing intelligently with positive intent - PC took the game to Utd - his subs were deeply and cleverly considered to counter Utd's counter tactics
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:07 - Apr 30 with 4906 views | union_jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:55 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
not if Hull win all 3 |
Technically, maybe not. But realistically 41 pts will keep us up I'd imagine. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:10 - Apr 30 with 4875 views | sherpajacob |
A few twists and turns yet.
Hull may well improve their GD significantly against Sunderland.
Equal!y Sunderland may play better, now any pressure is off, which could upset us and or hull. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:11 - Apr 30 with 4867 views | SgorioFruit |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:03 - Apr 30 by E20Jack |
Not getting this at all. I do admire the positivity but we have to remian realistic.
If we beat Everton then we may well br in exactly the same position as we are now. Hull could quite easily beat Sunderland. Even if we do drag ourselves out of the zone with a win, there is still a huge amount if work to do.
It is the opposite of being in our own hands by the very definition of the fact we need others to drop points in order for us to go above them. If they win their remaining 3 then they survive, if we accept its possible for us to do it, then so can they. |
Spot on
We are heavily relying on Hull to slip up wether we beat Everton or not.
Hull save a pen in dying minutes yesterday and swans get robbed today and that Llorente last minute miss. These things go against us is what's making us see the reality of what is going on.
Next week we need hull to lose and then we have the later kick off. Only then can we start talking like this. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:14 - Apr 30 with 4815 views | rock1n |
People are forgetting palace they've got both Manchester teams and Hull so if you do the math on this then it's in our hands realistically | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:15 - Apr 30 with 4803 views | shandyjack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:14 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
People are forgetting palace they've got both Manchester teams and Hull so if you do the math on this then it's in our hands realistically |
the same Palace that beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in last 5 games? | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 with 4777 views | rock1n |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:15 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
the same Palace that beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in last 5 games? |
That's not sustainable - I think Man City will beat them then there's a massive game against hull and id back united if it's to get into top 4
It conceivable palace could lose all 3 [Post edited 30 Apr 2017 16:19]
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 with 4777 views | union_jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:14 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
People are forgetting palace they've got both Manchester teams and Hull so if you do the math on this then it's in our hands realistically |
MathS!!! | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 with 4777 views | morningstar |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:55 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
not if Hull win all 3 |
Yes we will, because if Hull win all three and we win all three, then its Palace for the drop. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:24 - Apr 30 with 4702 views | SgorioFruit |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 by morningstar |
Yes we will, because if Hull win all three and we win all three, then its Palace for the drop. |
Not if palace pick up 3 points | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:24 - Apr 30 with 4701 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:14 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
People are forgetting palace they've got both Manchester teams and Hull so if you do the math on this then it's in our hands realistically |
By needing someone else to drop points - it means it is not in our own hands.
They are 6 points ahead of us with better GD (so essentially 7 points ahead) with 3 games left a surely you can see that saying its in our own hands is extremely nonsensical??
Hull are unbeaten at home since boxing day, their manager hasnt lost at home in 3 years, 2 points ahead of us with some winnable games ahead and you say if we win our next game then we are safe??
I think this whole attitude is extremely dangerous to have. I understand you are trying to be positive but this level of blind optimism being passed off as realism when its as far away from realism as you can get could be damaging if it catches on.
We are in one hell of a scrap and even winning 2 of 3 would only give us a coin flip chance of surviving. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:26 - Apr 30 with 4656 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 by morningstar |
Yes we will, because if Hull win all three and we win all three, then its Palace for the drop. |
But Palace are already on 38 points. If Hull win all their games and so do we, Palace need to pick up 1 win in the other 2 games to be safe. Their goal difference is far superior to both. The way Palace are playing they coukd quite easily pick up a win. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:27 - Apr 30 with 4647 views | Loyal |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:17 - Apr 30 by morningstar |
Yes we will, because if Hull win all three and we win all three, then its Palace for the drop. |
Or Burnley.
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:31 - Apr 30 with 4607 views | rock1n |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:24 - Apr 30 by E20Jack |
By needing someone else to drop points - it means it is not in our own hands.
They are 6 points ahead of us with better GD (so essentially 7 points ahead) with 3 games left a surely you can see that saying its in our own hands is extremely nonsensical??
Hull are unbeaten at home since boxing day, their manager hasnt lost at home in 3 years, 2 points ahead of us with some winnable games ahead and you say if we win our next game then we are safe??
I think this whole attitude is extremely dangerous to have. I understand you are trying to be positive but this level of blind optimism being passed off as realism when its as far away from realism as you can get could be damaging if it catches on.
We are in one hell of a scrap and even winning 2 of 3 would only give us a coin flip chance of surviving. |
I look at history in this situations someone always implodes - 41 points would be a monster target to survive, 39 is high as well | |
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