| We beat Everton we stay up 15:37 - Apr 30 with 8385 views | rock1n |
It's a massive game - great effort from the lads since the yank disaster |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:36 - Apr 30 with 1588 views | Loyal |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:31 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
I look at history in this situations someone always implodes - 41 points would be a monster target to survive, 39 is high as well |
Someone will collapse from us, Hull, Burnley or Palace to even it out. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:37 - Apr 30 with 1589 views | union_jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:24 - Apr 30 by E20Jack |
By needing someone else to drop points - it means it is not in our own hands.
They are 6 points ahead of us with better GD (so essentially 7 points ahead) with 3 games left a surely you can see that saying its in our own hands is extremely nonsensical??
Hull are unbeaten at home since boxing day, their manager hasnt lost at home in 3 years, 2 points ahead of us with some winnable games ahead and you say if we win our next game then we are safe??
I think this whole attitude is extremely dangerous to have. I understand you are trying to be positive but this level of blind optimism being passed off as realism when its as far away from realism as you can get could be damaging if it catches on.
We are in one hell of a scrap and even winning 2 of 3 would only give us a coin flip chance of surviving. |
Dangerous!?!?
We can do no more than win our games and hope others don't. What's dangerous about that pattern of thought? |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:43 - Apr 30 with 1578 views | Private_Partz |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:31 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
I look at history in this situations someone always implodes - 41 points would be a monster target to survive, 39 is high as well |
One thing for sure is that it us a bloody odd league this year. It is truly now a top 7 with a fourteen point gap between Everton and the team below.
Yet at the same time we could be heading for one of the highest points total for survival ever.
If we and Hull tear up trees in the last three games then half the division is in danger. Bonkers, despite it looking like it is us or Hull it is no way impossible for any of these to lose three on the bounce. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:44 - Apr 30 with 1573 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:37 - Apr 30 by union_jack |
Dangerous!?!?
We can do no more than win our games and hope others don't. What's dangerous about that pattern of thought? |
That isn't the pattern of thought here though is it? The pattern of thought is that if we beat Everton then we are safe and it makes no difference what others do. That is an incredible dangerous line of thinking if it spreads because it simply is not true or anywhere close to being so. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:49 - Apr 30 with 1548 views | union_jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:44 - Apr 30 by E20Jack |
That isn't the pattern of thought here though is it? The pattern of thought is that if we beat Everton then we are safe and it makes no difference what others do. That is an incredible dangerous line of thinking if it spreads because it simply is not true or anywhere close to being so. |
Ok. It's not the way I read it. I see it that, although not technically so, if we win all three it's very likely we'll stay up, | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:51 - Apr 30 with 1539 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:31 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
I look at history in this situations someone always implodes - 41 points would be a monster target to survive, 39 is high as well |
At the beginning of the season I would agree. But everything has to be judged on its own merit when you actually get to the end of the season. Didnt Blackpool get relegated on 40 points? Some seasons the target gets huge and this has all the characteristics of that, in which case 40 point mark goes out the window.
40 points for Hull is winning 2 of next 3 (Sunderland and Palace)
40 points for Palace is 2 draws.
Hardly a mammoth task for either. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:52 - Apr 30 with 1537 views | Ebo |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:31 - Apr 30 by rock1n |
I look at history in this situations someone always implodes - 41 points would be a monster target to survive, 39 is high as well |
If we win 2 and Hull lose against palace and Spurs we're safe. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:56 - Apr 30 with 1520 views | shandyjack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:52 - Apr 30 by Ebo |
If we win 2 and Hull lose against palace and Spurs we're safe. |
i wouldn't hang hopes on Spurs to beat Hull, they lost 5-1 away to newcastle last season on last day when they had nothing to play for |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:59 - Apr 30 with 1510 views | jack247 |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 15:55 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
not if Hull win all 3 |
If both us and Hull win all three, Palace have to win at either City or United.
I don't think either of us will win all three, but if we do, we will probably both stay up. |  | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:01 - Apr 30 with 1492 views | morningstar |
Always remembering of course that if we lose to Everton next week then we will by all intents and purposes, be relegated. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:01 - Apr 30 with 1487 views | Ebo |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 16:56 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
i wouldn't hang hopes on Spurs to beat Hull, they lost 5-1 away to newcastle last season on last day when they had nothing to play for |
I don't think Poch would want a return of that and I think the players will have it in their minds too.
Dream scenario is that we win our next 2 and Hull lose the next 2. Not going to happen but would love it if it did.
Win next Saturday puts pressure on Hull who will be playing a team playing for nothing other than contracts. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:11 - Apr 30 with 1433 views | E20Jack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:01 - Apr 30 by morningstar |
Always remembering of course that if we lose to Everton next week then we will by all intents and purposes, be relegated. |
Unless Hull also lose. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 with 1429 views | exiledclaseboy |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:01 - Apr 30 by Ebo |
I don't think Poch would want a return of that and I think the players will have it in their minds too.
Dream scenario is that we win our next 2 and Hull lose the next 2. Not going to happen but would love it if it did.
Win next Saturday puts pressure on Hull who will be playing a team playing for nothing other than contracts. |
Hull play Sunderland before we play Everton. They'll see their earlier kick off as an amazing opportunity to put an immense amount of pressure on us to beat Everton. If they win we'll be five points behind them going into our own game. Conversely, if Sunderland can get something at Hull it should give us a big boost before we kick off.
F*ck knows. We've given ourselves a sniff of a chance today but no more than that. We're still deep in the mire and firm favourites to go down. It would have been different of course if it weren't for Rashford the cheat and Swarbrick the c*nt robbing us of two vital points. |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 with 1428 views | shandyjack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:11 - Apr 30 by E20Jack |
Unless Hull also lose. |
Hull winning is as nailed on as you can get in football game | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 with 1428 views | 3swan |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:01 - Apr 30 by morningstar |
Always remembering of course that if we lose to Everton next week then we will by all intents and purposes, be relegated. |
Hull to lose their last 2 games.
Sunderland will be our Rochdale
WBA our Hull | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:14 - Apr 30 with 1411 views | 3swan |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Hull play Sunderland before we play Everton. They'll see their earlier kick off as an amazing opportunity to put an immense amount of pressure on us to beat Everton. If they win we'll be five points behind them going into our own game. Conversely, if Sunderland can get something at Hull it should give us a big boost before we kick off.
F*ck knows. We've given ourselves a sniff of a chance today but no more than that. We're still deep in the mire and firm favourites to go down. It would have been different of course if it weren't for Rashford the cheat and Swarbrick the c*nt robbing us of two vital points. |
And our run of 1 point from 6 games.
It really is a bonus being in with a chance, and whilst I agree with the non penalty today.
Our league position is self inflicted | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:20 - Apr 30 with 1382 views | jack247 |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
Hull winning is as nailed on as you can get in football game |
They aren't Real Madrid mind | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:20 - Apr 30 with 1380 views | exiledclaseboy |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:14 - Apr 30 by 3swan |
And our run of 1 point from 6 games.
It really is a bonus being in with a chance, and whilst I agree with the non penalty today.
Our league position is self inflicted |
I agree but I'm struggling with bigger picture stuff at the moment. I can't get the image of Rashford's cheating and Swarbrick's subsequent incompetence/corruption out of my head. | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:22 - Apr 30 with 1367 views | Wingstandwood |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:14 - Apr 30 by 3swan |
And our run of 1 point from 6 games.
It really is a bonus being in with a chance, and whilst I agree with the non penalty today.
Our league position is self inflicted |
Too true a damn good result and performance today but damn bittersweet to the max IMO, why, why, why did the team switch off and go into half hearted mode in games not so long back.
Why was desperately required team strengthening delayed.
Why was Bradley ever appointed.
The team is in an easily and totally preventable situation.
So f#cking annoying! Kamikaze lunacy! |  |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:22 - Apr 30 with 1357 views | NeathJack |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:12 - Apr 30 by shandyjack |
Hull winning is as nailed on as you can get in football game |
I wouldn't be so sure. Teams who have been relegated early have a funny habit of turning it on and playing without fear in their next game.
I've a sneaky feeling they are going to upset Hull. |  | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:25 - Apr 30 with 1339 views | 3swan |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:20 - Apr 30 by exiledclaseboy |
I agree but I'm struggling with bigger picture stuff at the moment. I can't get the image of Rashford's cheating and Swarbrick's subsequent incompetence/corruption out of my head. |
It's the way of the football world.
Big club home decisions.
I couldn't see us going on a 5 win run.
Now it's just a 3 win run.......................... more achievable | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:26 - Apr 30 with 1328 views | jack247 |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:20 - Apr 30 by exiledclaseboy |
I agree but I'm struggling with bigger picture stuff at the moment. I can't get the image of Rashford's cheating and Swarbrick's subsequent incompetence/corruption out of my head. |
Llorente not throwing his head at that free kick is more of a gutter. There couldn't have been much more than 5 minutes of normal time left. | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:27 - Apr 30 with 1325 views | 3swan |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:22 - Apr 30 by NeathJack |
I wouldn't be so sure. Teams who have been relegated early have a funny habit of turning it on and playing without fear in their next game.
I've a sneaky feeling they are going to upset Hull. |
I think they could get something at Hull.
Problem is they then go into their last home game of the season against us, with wanting to give their fans something | | | |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:47 - Apr 30 with 1268 views | morningstar |
| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:26 - Apr 30 by jack247 |
Llorente not throwing his head at that free kick is more of a gutter. There couldn't have been much more than 5 minutes of normal time left. |
It was into injury time Tim! | |
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| We beat Everton we stay up on 17:50 - Apr 30 with 1260 views | longlostjack |
Ash handball next week in 90th minute. Penalty. Final Result Swans 1 Everton 0 |  |
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