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Well Ms Clinton has wrapped up the Democratic nomination for the President even though she could be indicted by the FBI over the private email server scandal. Uncle Bernie is staying in, mainly hoping that she is charged and he can take over the nomination even if that happens we will end up with a President Trump.
Those are yes non-radicals, but could you see them in any position of power I.e President, Vice-President or Secretary of State as they pretty light weight somehow you couldn't imagine a Madam President Diane Feinstein. The only other high up female is Nancy Pelosi whose is so stupid that calling her stupid is insulting to stupid people. If Clinton hadn't have had these question marks against her,she should be 25 to 30 points ahead of Trump! She is far more intelligent than the 'The Donald' ,she is more politically savvy than him and has more experience of political power than him. But the scandal of the lies,Bengahzi, the email server and now her health could be her undoing. Don't get me wrong if she didn't have those question marks against her, I would love to have her in power,just to piss off those gun loving arseholes at the NRA.
Snork. I understand you're a Bernie fan. But he is not going to be the next POTUS.
You have a choice of two.
Hilary Clinton or Donald Trump.
Snork, who do you want to be the next President of the United States of America?
One is some youtube/radio/two hours of cable telly a day bunch of amateurs.
The other is the most popular cable news Channel in America. Owned by Rupert Murdoch and basically the propaganda arm of the Republican party.
I think I mentioned false equivalency somewhere earlier.
Here's an example.
Dearie me.
Saying both are lunatic in their ideas and extremely regressive in their thought is not a comparison of their influence though. Seems odd you would think that was the message. If you could point out where I mentioned their sphere of influence is equal, that would be fantastic. :)
Seriously dai. You have a choice of two. Who do you want to win dai? Hilary or Trump?
Isn't it possible to want neither though, a loaded dishonest question. Who would they vote can also be greeted with the neither answer too. Also why not mention the other candidates, they may support those more, regardless of chance of election being low, as chance has no bearing on the question asked.
Snork. I understand you're a Bernie fan. But he is not going to be the next POTUS.
You have a choice of two.
Hilary Clinton or Donald Trump.
Snork, who do you want to be the next President of the United States of America?
Funnily enough I am not a Bernie fan, but he was saying that the system and the DNC were against him and conspiring to keep him out of the race. Everybody thought that he was being paranoid and was in there with the tin foil hat brigade, until the DNC email scandal broke which proved that Debbie Wasserman Schultz did indeed seek to undermine Uncle Bernie. As I said before if Sanders had got the nomination then would almost certainly would be looking at a Trump win and administration.
The right wing shocks jocks over here painted Sanders as a fully blown Communist, who was one step down from Leon Trotsky, when the fact he more of a Bennite style of politicion, but the average right wing voter and hack don't have a clue about democratic socialism as the have been ingrained by the McCarthy trials and the Cold War that anything left of JFK is a goddamn commie, if you told the average American that the Blair creature was a 'Socialist' they wouldn't believe you.
As for who would I want as President , thank God I don't have a vote here, I am a legal resident but not naturalized yet, my wife is American and I have said to her many times that I feel sorry for the American people as they have the choice of two incompetents to chose from, she is considering Garry Johnson. My choice would be neither, but if you pinned me down I would say Clinton, but both would detrimental to the United States and ultimately the Planet.
Sanders only joined the Democratic party just prior to standing for the nomination, having been an independent for almost forever, correct? Seems to me that he wanted to use the Democrat party for his own ends...
Sanders only joined the Democratic party just prior to standing for the nomination, having been an independent for almost forever, correct? Seems to me that he wanted to use the Democrat party for his own ends...
Bluey, the same accusation could leveled at Trump, because both are not establishment lackeys is the reason they did so well in Sanders case and are doing well in Trumps case are the reason they are so popular! The DNC wanted Clinton in to maintain the status quo and perpetuate the Obama legacy and give her the power that she craves.
Bluey, the same accusation could leveled at Trump, because both are not establishment lackeys is the reason they did so well in Sanders case and are doing well in Trumps case are the reason they are so popular! The DNC wanted Clinton in to maintain the status quo and perpetuate the Obama legacy and give her the power that she craves.
Agree about Trump hijacking the republican nomination.
Still say McMullin is a better choice than Clinton, Trump or indeed Sanders.
I'd struggle myself to be honest. It's similar to the Brexit campaign for me. A pox on all of their houses.
Really? If I was was an American I'd think this was the most important vote you could ever be given.
More of the same, which I may not like,but is pretty safe.
Or a mental openly racist, sexist absolute oaf reality TV star who asked the people briefing him three times "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?"
Oh and he's just "joked" again about Hilary being shot. And want's to ban abortions.
They are both as bad as each other. Instead of having debates about policy they just seem to be flinging dog shit at each other in the hope something sticks.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
They are both as bad as each other. Instead of having debates about policy they just seem to be flinging dog shit at each other in the hope something sticks.
Donald Trump wants to overturn abortion law, get rid of funding for Planned Parenthood (which, among other things, provides abortions for women who want one), wants to spend billions on a wall, doesn't want to overturn campaign finance laws that allow for too much money in politics, wants to overturn gay marriage laws, re-criminalize marijuana laws across the states, expand gun rights, wants a religious litmus test for immigrants, spreads doubt upon the legality of Obama being president, and many other awful things on an almost daily basis.
They are not the same, that is a myth that just won't die.
Donald Trump wants to overturn abortion law, get rid of funding for Planned Parenthood (which, among other things, provides abortions for women who want one), wants to spend billions on a wall, doesn't want to overturn campaign finance laws that allow for too much money in politics, wants to overturn gay marriage laws, re-criminalize marijuana laws across the states, expand gun rights, wants a religious litmus test for immigrants, spreads doubt upon the legality of Obama being president, and many other awful things on an almost daily basis.
They are not the same, that is a myth that just won't die.
"re-criminalize marijuana laws across the states"
If you mean "re-criminalize the use of marijuana across the states", have you got any links?
Donald Trump wants to overturn abortion law, get rid of funding for Planned Parenthood (which, among other things, provides abortions for women who want one), wants to spend billions on a wall, doesn't want to overturn campaign finance laws that allow for too much money in politics, wants to overturn gay marriage laws, re-criminalize marijuana laws across the states, expand gun rights, wants a religious litmus test for immigrants, spreads doubt upon the legality of Obama being president, and many other awful things on an almost daily basis.
They are not the same, that is a myth that just won't die.
I was talking more about them being just as bad throwing insults around at each other. Trump is clearly a mental case who is making it up as he goes along although Clinton could be just as dangerous but in a different way.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Really? If I was was an American I'd think this was the most important vote you could ever be given.
More of the same, which I may not like,but is pretty safe.
Or a mental openly racist, sexist absolute oaf reality TV star who asked the people briefing him three times "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?"
Oh and he's just "joked" again about Hilary being shot. And want's to ban abortions.
Hell of a guy.
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I'd never vote for Trump or anyone of his ilk. While I'm no huge fan of Clinton she'd probably end up getting my vote with little enthusiasm. My reference to the referendum campaign stands. I had no enthusiasm for either side and voted remain because that was my instinctive and natural position, regardless of my views on the individuals involved. It'd be the same here.
If you mean "re-criminalize the use of marijuana across the states", have you got any links?
I wrote that badly, but my point is that Trump has openly said that legalisation of marijuana concerns him. Obviously, a president cannot legalise or criminalise it with the stroke of a pen, but he or she can certainly be a decisive advocate or opponent.
Here is the link you requested, it shows Trump's stance on medical marijuana (not particularly controversial, and the legalisation of marijuana for all.
I hope they both lose, but if one has to win I would pick trump because the backlash would be fascinating to watch and rather hilarious.
...and that's where you lose me. Both lose is great, Trump win for "hilarity" then you are sicker than most - I'm quite surprised.
A potential WW3/new cold war/hawkish willy waving ain't hilarious. I''ve disagreed with many things you've said over the years but accepted that you have a "fair" right of view but now you've demonstrated a stupidity/immaturity I never suspected existed in you.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan