| Naismith 13:33 - Jan 12 with 25812 views | DanGom1 |
Rumours that he's turned down Norwich for us, would you be happy with that? |  | | |  |
| Naismith on 18:52 - Jan 12 with 2479 views | union_jack |
Why are people so hostile to opposing fans when they come on with friendly chat.
We don't want to come over as rude now, do we?
To the Everton fan, please excuse some in here. |  |
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| Naismith on 18:54 - Jan 12 with 2459 views | Neath_Jack |
| Naismith on 18:52 - Jan 12 by union_jack |
Why are people so hostile to opposing fans when they come on with friendly chat.
We don't want to come over as rude now, do we?
To the Everton fan, please excuse some in here. |
Who's been rude? |  |
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| Naismith on 19:41 - Jan 12 with 2253 views | bt95 |
| Naismith on 18:42 - Jan 12 by Neath_Jack |
When did you last win a trophy la?
You wouldn't even be the 4th biggest in the Championship let alone Britain ffs. |
20 years ago. As I said, we have under achieved in regards to that, and it's something that with the current squad of players we should be looking to get under our belts again.
You have what, one League Cup to your name? And that is not meant to belittle that achievement at all - I'd be thrilled to see us win that trophy this season!
My point is that stature wise, you cannot put the two clubs in the same bracket.
Swansea are a fine club, and up until the Monk sacking I personally thought a club that was incredibly well-run and knew its limitations and, most importantly, its strengths. I still do think that, in the most part, and on topic, I think both Gibson and Naismith would be good additions to your squad and your attempts to avoid a relegation scrap - which with the players you have should not be happening.
And get off been a wind up merchant pal. You look at the records - Everton, behind United, Liverpool and Arsenal, are the fourth biggest club in English football.
As I said in my other post, it may mean little at the moment in terms of money or challenging for a title, but when other teams' fans say that players will definitely 'leave for a big club', it urks a fanbase that is normally pretty sound, realistic and often pessimistic about our own team.
Edit: I also want to add that I in know way believe Gibson and Naismith aren't good enough for Everton. But as other posters have said, squad depth means that, when there isn't as many games, that some players just don't get the game time.
For example, Capoue at Spurs. Everyone knew there was a player in there, but he didn't fit Poch's style of play and was deemed surplus to requirements. Now he's at a team where he is one of the main men and he has flourished. That's just one example.
I also want to add that the League Cup comment above was perhaps out of order slightly, but I was just making a general point while trying not to sound too arrogant. [Post edited 12 Jan 2016 19:45]
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| Naismith on 19:45 - Jan 12 with 2211 views | AndyNak |
Don't disagree with anything you've said mate - with the exception of Monk being sacked, he had to go. Won't go into all the details but our style of football has gotten terrible and it was only going one way. Cheers for taking the time to post. Personally I'd be delighted with Naismith. | |
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| Naismith on 19:51 - Jan 12 with 2157 views | Neath_Jack |
| Naismith on 19:41 - Jan 12 by bt95 |
20 years ago. As I said, we have under achieved in regards to that, and it's something that with the current squad of players we should be looking to get under our belts again.
You have what, one League Cup to your name? And that is not meant to belittle that achievement at all - I'd be thrilled to see us win that trophy this season!
My point is that stature wise, you cannot put the two clubs in the same bracket.
Swansea are a fine club, and up until the Monk sacking I personally thought a club that was incredibly well-run and knew its limitations and, most importantly, its strengths. I still do think that, in the most part, and on topic, I think both Gibson and Naismith would be good additions to your squad and your attempts to avoid a relegation scrap - which with the players you have should not be happening.
And get off been a wind up merchant pal. You look at the records - Everton, behind United, Liverpool and Arsenal, are the fourth biggest club in English football.
As I said in my other post, it may mean little at the moment in terms of money or challenging for a title, but when other teams' fans say that players will definitely 'leave for a big club', it urks a fanbase that is normally pretty sound, realistic and often pessimistic about our own team.
Edit: I also want to add that I in know way believe Gibson and Naismith aren't good enough for Everton. But as other posters have said, squad depth means that, when there isn't as many games, that some players just don't get the game time.
For example, Capoue at Spurs. Everyone knew there was a player in there, but he didn't fit Poch's style of play and was deemed surplus to requirements. Now he's at a team where he is one of the main men and he has flourished. That's just one example.
I also want to add that the League Cup comment above was perhaps out of order slightly, but I was just making a general point while trying not to sound too arrogant. [Post edited 12 Jan 2016 19:45]
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No problem with most of that, other than how big a club you think Everton are. Not a chance in hell you're one of the big 4. What are you basing it on? | |
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| Naismith on 19:57 - Jan 12 with 2118 views | bt95 |
| Naismith on 19:45 - Jan 12 by AndyNak |
Don't disagree with anything you've said mate - with the exception of Monk being sacked, he had to go. Won't go into all the details but our style of football has gotten terrible and it was only going one way. Cheers for taking the time to post. Personally I'd be delighted with Naismith. |
Fair enough matey! Not wishing to start any arguments!
He'd be a great signing for you, I reckon.
And I don't think Gibson would be bad either, though his injury record is a risk. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:02 - Jan 12 with 2086 views | AndyNak |
I think the vast majority of us were willing him to turn it around - one of our own and all that - but it seemed the situation was irretrievable. The chairman doesn't sack managers (or more importantly pay compensation) easily so trust his judgement on that one.
Honestly don't know anything about Gibson but I'd love a player with the tenacity and passion of Naismith right now | |
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| Naismith on 20:04 - Jan 12 with 2051 views | pencoedjack |
| Naismith on 18:52 - Jan 12 by union_jack |
Why are people so hostile to opposing fans when they come on with friendly chat.
We don't want to come over as rude now, do we?
To the Everton fan, please excuse some in here. |
Not being hostile but when a mid table PL supporter believes a 6th choice player at their club will make our mid field better I call that being the Billy big bollocks. |  | | |
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| Naismith on 20:07 - Jan 12 with 2033 views | Dr_Winston |
| Naismith on 20:04 - Jan 12 by pencoedjack |
Not being hostile but when a mid table PL supporter believes a 6th choice player at their club will make our mid field better I call that being the Billy big bollocks. |
This.
I like Naismith. Always have. But he'd be a direct competitor for Siggy and for me we've got more pressing concerns. Like out wide. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Naismith on 20:09 - Jan 12 with 2006 views | dobjack2 |
| Naismith on 20:04 - Jan 12 by pencoedjack |
Not being hostile but when a mid table PL supporter believes a 6th choice player at their club will make our mid field better I call that being the Billy big bollocks. |
It's a question of balance. A player not getting games at one club may be what another club needs.
Not saying that Gibson is necessarily what we need but JJS must have been 5th choice behind Leon siggy ki and cork before his on field strops and Newcastle think he is what they need. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 with 1975 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Naismith on 20:07 - Jan 12 by Dr_Winston |
This.
I like Naismith. Always have. But he'd be a direct competitor for Siggy and for me we've got more pressing concerns. Like out wide. |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |  | | |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 with 1965 views | Neath_Jack |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 by AngelRangelQS |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |
Goodison Park. | |
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| Naismith on 20:14 - Jan 12 with 1955 views | Dr_Winston |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 by AngelRangelQS |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |
Attacking Midfield. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Naismith on 20:19 - Jan 12 with 1913 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
We'll swap him for Montero you watch |  |
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| Naismith on 20:21 - Jan 12 with 1892 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Naismith on 20:19 - Jan 12 by oh_tommy_tommy |
We'll swap him for Montero you watch |
Everton are welcome to Montero
I always thought Naismith could play as a striker... Can't see that happening then | | | |
| Naismith on 20:23 - Jan 12 with 1864 views | jack247 |
| Naismith on 20:07 - Jan 12 by Dr_Winston |
This.
I like Naismith. Always have. But he'd be a direct competitor for Siggy and for me we've got more pressing concerns. Like out wide. |
Does seem that the targets we are being linked to seem to be replacements for Shelvey, rather than reinforcements in the areas we really need them. It's only rumours I guess though. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:24 - Jan 12 with 1850 views | jack247 |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 by AngelRangelQS |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |
The Martin Thomas role. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:26 - Jan 12 with 1837 views | dameedna |
Naismith Bony De Jong Jdg
Thx |  | | |
| Naismith on 20:32 - Jan 12 with 1797 views | hobo |
| Naismith on 14:08 - Jan 12 by Brynmill_Jack |
Always pops up with goals . It's a yes from me |
18 goals in 103 games says otherwise... |  | | |
| Naismith on 20:36 - Jan 12 with 1745 views | bt95 |
| Naismith on 20:04 - Jan 12 by pencoedjack |
Not being hostile but when a mid table PL supporter believes a 6th choice player at their club will make our mid field better I call that being the Billy big bollocks. |
Nothing to do with being Billy big bollocks.
Gibson is a good player who would improve most squads in the Prem.
He hasn't been a first-choice player for us due to his injuries and the fact that Barry/McCarthy and now Besic have played well there.
I think, since you have what, three senior central midfielders in the squad (Ki, Cork, Britton)? and you play a variation of 4-3-3... that he'd be a good option for you. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:36 - Jan 12 with 1738 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Naismith on 20:32 - Jan 12 by hobo |
18 goals in 103 games says otherwise... |
Well ok, important goals then. Always a handful whenever we've played them |  |
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| Naismith on 20:38 - Jan 12 with 1716 views | Oldjack |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 by AngelRangelQS |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |
Attacking midfield or a striker |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Naismith on 20:39 - Jan 12 with 1693 views | bt95 |
| Naismith on 19:51 - Jan 12 by Neath_Jack |
No problem with most of that, other than how big a club you think Everton are. Not a chance in hell you're one of the big 4. What are you basing it on? |
There is no 'big four' anymore though is there...
For years in the Prem it was Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool.
Now you throw Spurs, City in there as well.
But, and there's several lists of this, in terms of history of honours and scale of fanbase, Everton are the fourth biggest club in English football.
My argument was that fans shouldn't say that Stones etc. will leave to a 'big club' - they are already at a big club. They may well leave to a much richer club, or currently more successful, yes. But not necessarily bigger. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:42 - Jan 12 with 1679 views | jack247 |
| Naismith on 20:36 - Jan 12 by Brynmill_Jack |
Well ok, important goals then. Always a handful whenever we've played them |
He also links play, puts runners through and makes the kind of runs that drag defenders out of position that Ayew would absolutely love to exploit.
Have to agree with others on this thread though, I wouldn't have him in the team ahead of Gylfi and our priorities should be a centre forward and a winger. | | | |
| Naismith on 20:43 - Jan 12 with 1653 views | bt95 |
| Naismith on 20:13 - Jan 12 by AngelRangelQS |
Where does Naismith mainly play? Genuine question |
His best position is as a second-striker - kind of in between a No.10 and No.9.
He's very apt at picking up little pockets of space in and around the area.
However, because of his work rate, Moyes and Martinez seems to have played him more out wide - where he's wasted as he does not have the pace to beat a full-back and he can't cross/or make a killer pass.
Whenever he's played as a second-striker for us, which he did a lot late in 2013/14 and in the early part of last season, he's usually done a good job though, and he's bagged some really important goals.
Personally I wish we'd have used him a lot more in some of the games we dominated without getting the wins back in December. He'd have been our best choice to try and turn some of those draws into wins in the last 15 minutes of games. | | | |
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