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Important to note that he had a huge warning in the first half when he very almost fcked it up in nearly identical circumstances.
Absolutely nobody else's fault but his.
Absolutely. How anyone can say it was a poor back pass is ridiculous. The Forest player was twenty yards away when the ball reached Green. He had plenty of time to deal with it, the bloke is supposed to be a professional footballer not someone who has never played before. And if Green didn't feel confident because the ball was "bouncing" (imagine, a football bouncing, how unusual) then he should just have whacked it away. The fact is of course that Green has plenty of previous for this sort of thing which is why opposition players make the effort to close him down as quickly as possible.
Absolutely. How anyone can say it was a poor back pass is ridiculous. The Forest player was twenty yards away when the ball reached Green. He had plenty of time to deal with it, the bloke is supposed to be a professional footballer not someone who has never played before. And if Green didn't feel confident because the ball was "bouncing" (imagine, a football bouncing, how unusual) then he should just have whacked it away. The fact is of course that Green has plenty of previous for this sort of thing which is why opposition players make the effort to close him down as quickly as possible.
Sorry Jonno - totally agree and somehow hit the down arrow
The fact that people are blaming Ramsey for our defeat I find totally baffling, we were in control in the second half. After Austins goal we were pushing for a second and Florist were on the back foot, the defeat is totally down to Greens error, I accept its a pisher being a keeper because one mistake can be fatal.
The defence was doing fine until we went down to 10 mean, unfortunately after that we collapsed, we need to learn t play with 10 men and you really need a leader on the pitch, the fact that our best player was taken off didn't help.
We need to get behind him on Wednesday, fans getting on his back will only make him more nervy!
Totally agree with this. Chances are, he's our future goalkeeper, we need to pile in behind him and back him to the hilt. He looks like scared lost northern boy in the big city at the moment. Hopefully much Smithies love from the crowd and a couple of solid saves in a 3-0 win on Wednesday.
Been fairly consistent with my opinions of Green and Satrurday was typical, he's made loads of mistakes just like this, but up till now he's got away with more than he's been caught out with. Even at the Cardiff game he rushed out and almost hand balled it. He's just a terrible decision maker that inspires no confidence. I hope Smithies plays really well and keeps him out from now on, but he's going to take time - the next 2 games are massive for him.
It was a poor back pass for a keeper. As soon as it left Onouha foot i thought Green would be in trouble. A nice soft bouncing ball with a 16 stone center forward rrunning at you is not the easiest ball to control. Green should have put his foot through it though.
Agreed. I was in Ellerslie, and as soon that ball was played I also had a feeling we were in trouble. Of course Green should have cleared the ball, but my guess is that he was fearful of slicing it into the path of the oncoming player (so didn't take the ball first time).
Onuoha was partly to blame for the goal because his pass back was too high.
The man has cost us so many points from that woeful kick vs Chelsea to Charlton and now this to name but a few. His 50k or whatever wedge is still not justified.
His kick in the Chelsea game was poor, but: - He was kicking directly into a strong wind that half - 17 seconds elapsed between his duff kick and the goal - The entire Rangers team nodded off while he was taking that kick and made utterly pathetic efforts to try to get the ball back.
Goals conceded are frequently not just the fault of the 'keeper or the defence.
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"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Roadkill Although i've criticized the signing of Konchesky,he actually played very well today However Perch was poor from the start whilst Henry looked well off the pace and a waste of a position today. As soon as Sandro gets fit Disco your nightmare will end Oh and Green was fcuking abysmal yet again,they never looked like scoring in the 2nd half until he gave them the game.
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"As soon as Sandro gets fit..." LOL
We would've got more playing time out of the abdominal snowman, plus he was available on a free.
Sandro
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"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Fair point on Konchesky Chubbs, early days for perch and all that, but i will never ever understand the tangible end product of Karl Henrys presence In the team .
Quite simply a Vestigial organ , like the human tail bone or appendix. As pointless as Gary tibbs in Roxy music .
Please Mr Ramsey, do not pick this placebo ever again.
Do you think it's down to the General Election? Karl "true blue" Henry seemed a better player before the Conservatives secured another five years in power.
If Henry keeps having poor games, Ramsey could at least give him some Bez style maracas so he can do something of use. He could beat out a rhythm on them like those drummers used to on triremes...
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"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
His kick in the Chelsea game was poor, but: - He was kicking directly into a strong wind that half - 17 seconds elapsed between his duff kick and the goal - The entire Rangers team nodded off while he was taking that kick and made utterly pathetic efforts to try to get the ball back.
Goals conceded are frequently not just the fault of the 'keeper or the defence.
RFA
Well in the same game he also came flying out his area and stopped the ball with his hand very early in the first half. Could and should have been sent off but the ref missed it.
I have never seen a keeper make so many mental decisions so consistently and still be lauded as such a great and massive player. If he's not charging out his area doing stupid things he's sticking to his line putting his efenders under pressure. Roll on the Smithies years.
I think that's being very generous. A goal a month from major, major errors? That's miles above average.
I still think the goal we conceded against Chelsea was down to collective failure. All the outfield players switched off.
I play football, to a pathetic standard, and normally at CB, but even I know that you need to be alert when the 'keeper makes his kick because he might fluff it.
RFA
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Rob Green's 'interception' of O'Grady seems quite restrained compared to his effort for West Ham against Blackpool (about 1 minute in):
Talk about taking your man out! Strewth!
An interesting contract between Big Sam and Redkrapp: Big Sam had no sub 'keepers for that game. 'Arry preferred to play it safe and have two. You can never be too careful, especially in and around the transfer window.....
RFA
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
I still think the goal we conceded against Chelsea was down to collective failure. All the outfield players switched off.
I play football, to a pathetic standard, and normally at CB, but even I know that you need to be alert when the 'keeper makes his kick because he might fluff it.
RFA
Yeh if you speak to Chris Ramsey about it he compares it to a defensive header to halfway - i.e. shouldn't be conceding from it. Lost the first header, then Isla failed to stop the cross.
Fact is though it wouldn't have happened without Green's lousy kick, and his kicking is lousy in general so it's going down as a keeper error for me.
We would've got more playing time out of the abdominal snowman, plus he was available on a free.
Sandro
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An point on sandro we were wondering about in the pub on Saturday. Given the size of his contract, and the injuries he'd suffered in the seasons before joining us, I wonder if he's got a hefty appearance fee in his deal, like a several thousand pounds a game appearance fee. If so it may restrict/prohibit us from picking him, if it's costing us an extra 6 or 7k every time he starts for instance. Pure speculation but one to consider if it gets to the stage in a few weeks where he's not playing and Karl Henry still is.
An point on sandro we were wondering about in the pub on Saturday. Given the size of his contract, and the injuries he'd suffered in the seasons before joining us, I wonder if he's got a hefty appearance fee in his deal, like a several thousand pounds a game appearance fee. If so it may restrict/prohibit us from picking him, if it's costing us an extra 6 or 7k every time he starts for instance. Pure speculation but one to consider if it gets to the stage in a few weeks where he's not playing and Karl Henry still is.
I wondered this. Makes sense. Its happened at other clubs.
What gets me is the way he controlled the ball from the back pass , it seemed to me he tried to control it with both knees, something ive never seen before not even in under8 game
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
What gets me is the way he controlled the ball from the back pass , it seemed to me he tried to control it with both knees, something ive never seen before not even in under8 game
I just looked at it again. I think the ball bounced up more than he was expecting. It had some spin on it - a horrible pass from Onuoha.
An point on sandro we were wondering about in the pub on Saturday. Given the size of his contract, and the injuries he'd suffered in the seasons before joining us, I wonder if he's got a hefty appearance fee in his deal, like a several thousand pounds a game appearance fee. If so it may restrict/prohibit us from picking him, if it's costing us an extra 6 or 7k every time he starts for instance. Pure speculation but one to consider if it gets to the stage in a few weeks where he's not playing and Karl Henry still is.
Ooh, now that is intriguing, I had not thought of that.
Mind you, if it is true, then it calls into question the whole visa saga. Perhaps Ramsey is way cleverer than we think - and I certainly don't think he's a Benny (please, no more of that nickname; people may not agree with Ramsey's decisions and tactics but he is certainly not a simpleton) type thicket.
Did Ramsey cook the whole visa thing up to save money? The plot thickens!
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"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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